1.580hp at the Porsche test bench only, in race trim "just" 1.100hp, but with lock differential, 400 liters petrol, a flammable magnesium space frame -> 0-300kph in 11,3 seconds, I think Marc Donohue never felt more alive.

An insane car, 0-124mph in 5.2sec and 0-200mph in just under 11sec. Those are totally insane figures, even for today.

@stevenfarrington2361

7 жыл бұрын

Imagine how much faster it'd be with a PDK and paddle shifters...

@dustyowl99

7 жыл бұрын

lmao a pdk box capable of 1500 h orse? goodluck, also this car would be sooo much heavier

@vintageman91

7 жыл бұрын

Peter Lewis Yes indeed. Many racing and rallycars from the 70-80s had high power to weight figures.

@Crusader1815

6 жыл бұрын

Porsche needs to make a 1500hp flat 12 hypercar that just crushes the Bugattis. Just make it much lighter than a Chiron and the thing would fucking GO.

@Darkwell0071

5 жыл бұрын

Thing is it runs a spool no differential so all power all the time. Mark Donahue said two black stripes from one corner to the next. Think there was enough power ?

Legend has it that Porsche had horrendous drivability problems with the 917 turbo motor, until they contracted Mark Donohue as driver. The thing would only run cleanly at certain throttle and load positions. So, Donohue was talking to the factory engineers after a test session in an effort to work out the problem. He asked how they controlled fuel'ing in relation to engine speed, airflow and load. To his amazement they said they only had control for engine speed and airflow!!! Bear in mind this was before electronic engine management, the 917-30 had a mechanical fuel injection. So he politely advised them to get some sort of load control which allegedly caused some face palming amongst the engineers! Within days they had designed and manufactured a 3D cam for the fuel pump. Once this system was dialled in, the car then became the utter beast weapon that made it legendary. Donohue was the only driver that could get anywhere near the maximum capability of the 917-30.

@beyond_the_infinite2098

5 жыл бұрын

turboslag Agree except Donohue was the only driver of the 917K/30.

@TheFirstStater

5 жыл бұрын

@@beyond_the_infinite2098 I took a picture of George Follmer driving the L&M liveried car at Watkins Glen.

@stevezarbock8733

5 жыл бұрын

Saw Donohue lap the field twice at the Elkhart Lake Can- Am race in 1973. Incredible machine !

@brianhomka290

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevezarbock8733 And incredible driver...

@carlsaganlives5112

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheFirstStater Me and couple buddies rented a dilapidated out of town house,no furniture, no appliances, no garbage,totally empty except a big mounted photo of the L&M car at maybe Riverside,with the background 'speed blurred' ,with the car focused. Maybe (probably?) our good man George sawing away at the wheel.That was 40 years ago,my friend.

This is where Jay Leno is better - asks a few questions when needed, but lets the EXPERT do 90% of the talking

@KrisKincaid

5 жыл бұрын

This was Adam Corolla interviewing Adam Corolla. There just happened to be a Porsche museum expert standing next to him. Leno does the same thing where he likes to show the subject expert that he knows about it too. I would prefer to let the guest do all the talking with the host guiding the discussion.

@Riotdrone

5 жыл бұрын

who the fuck even is adam carolla?

@antares3796

5 жыл бұрын

@@Riotdrone Adam Carolla is äh.... is .... the husband of Eva Carolla !

@antares3796

5 жыл бұрын

@@KrisKincaid Yes , Adam is behaving like the chief , that is not good for an interviewer .... the expert of Porsche surely knew much more to say, but he couldn t ....

@tjroelsma

5 жыл бұрын

Jay Leno is very good, he has only one thing that drives me crazy sometimes, and that is his tendency to interrupt the guy his talking with. For the rest he's talking out of experience, very knowledgable and very resectful. If he could only adjust that last little irk he would be "perfect".

Adam Carolla is the man. He's living the dream,s tarted out broke and poor and now gets to have all the race cars he wants and he shares all of it with us regular folk because he is one of us. I love how genuinely enthusiastic he is about this stuff. It amazes me this thing is air cooled. Just crazy neat.

"So is it like this C-F or Z-F gearbox?" "No, this is a Porsche Gearbox" xDDDD

@ColdSmokes

4 жыл бұрын

The engineer simply asked "what is this ZF?" LOL

@bhaggen

3 жыл бұрын

@@ColdSmokes....."What is this ZF?" This "German Porsche engineer" is clueless; doesn't know ZF aka "Zahnradfabrik Friedrichshafen"? A 100 year old German gear, gearbox, auto trans, and steering box/rack including P/S pump manufacturer that is an OE supplier to Porsche, BMW, MB, Audi & Toyota. They have a plant in the US manufacturing gearboxes and suspensions for Ford & GM trucks. In fact ZF has been the official partner of Porsche Motorsport since 2010! He's like my Pops, great at the engineering math but technically clueless. To say he's not a car-guy like Adam is an understatement. Unless he doesn't understand "Z" in English; it's pronounced "tset" in German

You got Johannes Wuest, pretty much a living encyclopedia when it comes to Porsche's ... and this nitwit does most of the talking? What a missed chance.

@mattanacker

6 жыл бұрын

Wuest, real genius. I like how he called the lump a “flat V-12.” I’d like to see one of those, is MC Escher the design engineer?

I was fortunate enough as a kid to live at Ft. Ord in the early 70's. Our family went to Laguna Seca several times and watched Mark Donahue race these cars. The sound was unbelievable! All those Can-Am cars were great to look at. What a time

@dennissmith6783

4 жыл бұрын

I was in the army in the 70’s at Ft. Ord, and we used to hike out to Laguna and watch the races too!

@novadave7214

4 жыл бұрын

@@dennissmith6783 We were at Ft. Ord 75-80 and went to all the races at Seca over those years, Loved It!

You can have formula one, you can have GTP ( or whatever they're calling it this year), but Can Am cars will always be the fastest, baddest race cars ever raced!

@tomast9034

5 жыл бұрын

it was group 7 aka unlimited ....if iam not mistaken

@PWR2800

5 жыл бұрын

Watched these with dad at Road Atlanta. Will never forget them. Saw Jackie Steward and Mark D race these.

@doowaditti

5 жыл бұрын

Same here my friend at Laguna Stewart

@taskforceknight9336

4 жыл бұрын

Let’s not get carried away here mate

@richarddarlington1139

4 жыл бұрын

@@taskforceknight9336 Am I wrong?

1500 whp through a 4 speed and a spool...Racing has come such a long way but I wish rules today were less restrictive so we could see more innovations and competitive competition.

@wobblysauce

7 жыл бұрын

+

@anita.b

7 жыл бұрын

Jet ejector seats with multiple rockets. The car will be 75% jet ejector seat assembly, the rest will be "racing parts" Or they could be remote controlled in VR, WITH ZERO REGULATIONS.

@blackjacket_

7 жыл бұрын

if this was not too fast for humans for drive. on tyres from 70´s, Seat as comfortable as a toilet, no neck or body support technology whatsoever and a turbolag in the size of a planet, then I don´t know. I tried this car only virtually in Assetto Corsa with Oculus Rift on my head and hydraulicly moved seat. I was not able to think as fast as I drove it. Thanks God it was only a virtual experience

@thatwouldbeillegal7047

7 жыл бұрын

its called lmp1

@cptinsano43

7 жыл бұрын

I'd agree that LMP1 and F1 are currently at the pinnacle but both fields have become stagnant because of the restrictive rules/regulations they both employ. I'd also agree that there is a limit to what humans can endure and control but I don't think that we are yet.

Adam looks like a slightly newer model of Jeremy Clarkson

@TheOfficialKC

7 жыл бұрын

Rubeus Hagrid Way smarter than that moron Clarkson. Adam is actually knowledgeable on cars and passionate about his collections.

@bilalawan1560

7 жыл бұрын

but clarkson is more entertaining .

The one thing he hits on the head is the fact that the 917/30 speeds and technology was amazing compared to what other things were around such as dial up phones. And I occasionally talk to my brother about that such as Porsches and the SR-71's that were made with slide rulers and still hold some amazing speed records. Amazing!!!

You are not even going to start it up?! Come on now!

@pazi88

7 жыл бұрын

MultiTerpen I too just wanted to hear the start :(

@deborahbettis5919

7 жыл бұрын

MultiTerpen

One of the most memorable racing experiences of my life was watching Mark Donohue drive this insanely powerful car around the track at Watkins Glen. He was so far ahead of the competition it was ludicrous.

I still have my old Aurora HO scale slot cars with the Can Am 917 bodies. One in the Sunoco livery, one in L&M. I have no idea what they're worth, but I've had em since about 1975. Wont sell em.

AC: "Not good for a frontal collision" Porsche guy: "You shouldn't do zis, yes" AC: "You could turn this thing up to like 1600 horsepower, couldn't you?" Porsche guy: "Yah dis happened sometimes"

@arfshesaid4325

4 жыл бұрын

did u work in a court room

@aydankhaliq2967

3 жыл бұрын

Lmfao

@shelbyavant5081

2 жыл бұрын

@@arfshesaid4325 Criminally underrated comment.

Still my favorite race car ever.

@michaelcuff5780

4 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@bhaggen

3 жыл бұрын

We saw it race at Riverside in 73; you could hear the tires hit the expansion joints until it passed; quiet compared to the 500 cu/in Chevies; what a machine

I was a corner marshal at Edmonton International Raceway when Mark Donahue drove that car. I used to have a photo of two of them in the pit paddock, one with the bodywork on and the other removed side by side. Jody Shechter practised Saturday with a 5.0L engine. That evening they swapped out engines to a 5.4L engine. It was hilarious watching as the mechanics jabbered in German but swore in english.

"...is it a ZF gearbox?"...what? " then embarassment coming because he's not able to explain what it is

The 917/30 doesn't go down the track, it stays in one spot and rotates the planet underneath it, when it did the Talladega run the day got longer by by .00046 seconds as the car went West...true story

I saw the 917 Spyder here in Finland/Keimola driven by LEO KINNUNEN. The acceleration was like a slotcar: 0-120km/h in maybe 2 seconds to 300 km/h five seconds...

@william_SMMA

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh are you drunk? 0-300 kph in 5 seconds?

LOVE these Carolla vintage race car videos. Went to Goodwood FOS in 2014, blew my world apart.

This car is the primary reason why the 70s is my favorite era of racing (apart from Group 5)

They call it "Turbopanzer" because it turns like a Tank in slow corners with its spool differential

@MyLonewolf25

7 жыл бұрын

MrCornholios well it's basically a welded diff

@timjohansson5429

7 жыл бұрын

Not quite. A welded diff is basically a spool. A spool isn't a differential. It's just a fixed connection point of the driveshafts. Where as a differential is not a fixed connection point, hence the name differential.

@MyLonewolf25

7 жыл бұрын

Tim Johansson yes but in a WELDED diff You lock it up in the same way as a spool They are basically the exact same thing except ones just a slab of metal from the beginning and the other you turn the spider gears into said slab of metal Like comparing a red onion to a white onion Same dam thing just a slight difference in flavor

@G55STEYR

7 жыл бұрын

Spool is instead of the diff. That's the idea, to have no difference in rotation between the wheels

@entangled5342

7 жыл бұрын

I think the spool was a preference by the driver, Mark Donohue. He wrote about it in his book Unfair Advantage. He braked to the apex and the spool gave him more stability on corner entry.

Adam what a great host you are, great stuff. Went to Goodwood in 2012, talked to the drivers and the mechanics and the owners of some spectacular cars. What an amazing event.

I've always (since the age of 11) liked the 917 and specifically the 917/30. That's when I read "The Unfair Advantage" and it literally changed my life and started my passion for Porsche and the Porsche way of doing everything. Having said all that, Adam Carolla does a great video. Great job. Liked and Subscribed!

I wish Can-Am and Group B would come back...

@DuBstep115

5 жыл бұрын

Can am is back, they make ATVs

Can't tolerate Adam Corolla's voice for periods in excess of 15 seconds.

Excellent! more of this please. Never forgot Carolla and Leno and the beautiful Islero.

After all these year's, the CanAm powered flat 12 Porsche 917/30, is still the most powerful race car, ever produced. 100mph in 1st gear, WOOOOOW!!!! The later, Le Man winning 956 cars, driven by Stuck, Bell, Ickx, only needed around 700hp, to dominate the Endurance car championship. Amazing, the earlier 917/30 developed, at certain races, over twice the horsepower of the legendary 956/962 cars. No wonder they were so dominant in the CanAm race series.

@DaveyGa

5 жыл бұрын

Can Am races were nowhere near as long... Group C cars could be tuned to 1000+, but wouldn't last.

The rear wheels! OMG! Look at those rear wheels!

@tomast9034

5 жыл бұрын

those 110000000000 hp (hamster power:D) must be somehow transfered on the road

@peterrevens8454

3 жыл бұрын

Better than P-hub.

I'm surprised neither mentioned how hard this little buggy is to drive. There's a vid with Derek Bell putting the coupe through it's paces,and I think at one point he remarks with surprise that not all were wrecked. A real testament to the skills of the brave men who climbed into one of these.

Assetto Corsa ;)

@computiNATEor

7 жыл бұрын

Check out Empty Box's video on the 917/30, if you haven't already!

@eirikol1

7 жыл бұрын

I just ripped this baby around nordschleife for like two hours, came on youtube, and I see this!

@TomDeWeerdt1

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you, based Kunos!

@snviper

7 жыл бұрын

Same here. I love it on AC. Tried it the first time yesterday. Check my subs and there we go. :)

@bicyclist2

7 жыл бұрын

I have a friend with Assetto Corsa. Tried it loved it.

One of the all time greatest competition cars!

Ya just talk the whole time

This is what sportcar racing should be like today. What is this over emphasis with rules that these sanctioning bodies are fixated on? Bring Can-Am back with little or no rules and it would be a huge hit!

Sooo, Adam, your a car guy that's into vintage racing, and you knew about the 917, but not the 917-30? And the boost was not turned down for endurance racing, the 917-30 never went endurance racing. It was built exclusively for the Can-Am series.

Couldn't edit any footage of the 917 going up the hill so we could hear that glorious flat 12 without any obnoxious music?

@manucul28

7 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. All the bla bla and we can't get any footage of the car running. So disappointing.

Man I saw these cars run at Mid-Ohio when I was a kid......wow. Great to see them again.

Awesome insight on a legendary motorcar. Thanks for posting.

hollow titanium bolts throughout...lordy...850kg omg

@coolhandchunk

3 жыл бұрын

Love it! We need to find ways to lose weight....we can make the bolts cost $1k each and save 2 grams....Do It!

Probably the most insane car ever made 917/30.

@Loulovesspeed

4 жыл бұрын

@Peter Grant - No probably about it! I always challenge people to come up with another road racing machine, from any series or classes, that would come even close to this incredible piece of machinery! The challenge is still open. Mark Donohue worked at Porsche helping to develop the engine. Mark had a B.S. degree in Mechanical Engineering from Brown University and provided important contributions to the design and development of this car. I hope to see and hear one at a Historic Festival before I'm gone!

How about hearing the car and seeing it run?

Adam...Interesting you'd mention the state of technology when the Turbo Panzer was designed. Probably one of the last remaining 'slide rule' cars in existence. Fortunate to have seen Donahue at Mid-Ohio absolutely whoop the competitors. Viewed from the outside of turn 1 and back straight, could see the rear tires overrunning the front rotational speed, ie: black tracking, wheel spin as he turned up boost exiting turn 1. An article long ago in Autoweek, Leo Mehl, former comp director for Goodyear tire said Mark was the ONLY driver he'd seen that could utilize the full capability of tires w/o abusing them. Says much about Mark's sense of mechanical empathy, mechanical understanding.

I enjoyed this greatly.

Great video! Keep them coming! Thank you!

Every time I see that car, it reminds me of being a kid running my Tyco slot car track; the smell of the electrical components, the sound, the soft, foam rubber like tires. I loved the color scheme too. I will always have that smell whenever I see this car!

1500+hp, why not

@Freimopp777

7 жыл бұрын

not durable during races

@frequencydecline5250

7 жыл бұрын

...the 917/30 not durable during racing? It dominated Can-Am.

@slin3232

7 жыл бұрын

on ~1100 bhp, it's not durable at 1500bhp as he said in the video

I had the supreme privilege of seeing Mark drive that 917/30 on more than one occasion, including the penultimate race at Riverside in 1973 when he won the race, the championship AND announced his retirement the same day-and through sheer good luck I had dinner with him and the Porsche crew that evening. In fact, we consumed copious amounts of wine with a steak dinner to celebrate. I was able to ask him why he was retiring without tackling F1 seriously, and he said he was 36 years old and “too old” to try F1 in earnest. I wish to God he’d stayed retired!

I have a picture of me sitting in that car from 1998 during the 50th anniversary celebration at the Monterey Historic pre race test weekend. Morespeed was running that car with a guy named Olaf Lang driving. look the the video "The Mighty 917-30". You'll see how close that car came to being no more...several times.

Hollow titanium bolts, now that's attention to weight loss

Saw it at Watkins Glen with Mark Donohue in the seat. George Follmer drove the L&M 917/30.

just read Mark Donohue's book "The Unfair Advantage"......he covers in great detail the development of this car. you're welcome.

Nice with 1500hp and always one wheel slipping in the curves... Suicide machine.

Adam Carolla is lame.

What a beast!

ABSOLUTELY love this... :-)

I saw this car about 20 years ago at the Monterey Historics. Love the sound of it at speed.

I remember watching the car fire up the hill this year! The turbo cars were remarkably quiet for having over 1000 horsepower, because of the waste gas energy being harnessed

@tomast9034

5 жыл бұрын

the turbo is damping a lot of the exhaust noise and porsches were never that loud anyway

Nice interview. Would love to have seen video of it at speed or in-car with good audio

/Standing Around With Adam Carolla

the 917/30 is cool!

Absolute incredible monster of a car

who let Kramer out of the Seinfeld cage

I had a poster of that car with Mark Donahue driving it on my wall for 15 years. Until the poster rotted away.

100 mph in 1st gear :D

@carlsaganlives5112

4 жыл бұрын

It's not your dad's Oldsmobile.

I saw Donahue smoke the whole CanAm field at Road America in 1973...unbelievable...one of my favorite race cars.

*917-30* *THE HOLY GRAIL*

Brilliant engineering. Porsche at its finest.

If he says "yeah" one more time Imma be pissed

I have always wanted one of these cars after reading about them when I was a kid 0 to 100 kph in 2.1 seconds 0 to 200 kph in 5.6 seconds 0 to 300 kph in 11.6 seconds, and 383kph at Lemans. Just jaw dropping, not almost 50 years old. WOW

@MDDeGrande1994

3 жыл бұрын

The 917/30 never raced in Le Mans. And it hit way over 380 km/h.

The driver is sitting right next to a 440 L fuel tank , scary AF.

This is one crazy race car!!!

Spectacular vehicle, from an era gone.

"ZF gearbox? What is this ZF?" "Zee Eff? Zed Eff?" If Adam had said Zahnradfabrik Friedrichshafen, I'm sure the Porsche guy would have understood immediately.

Can-Am. It could only have happened when it did, but it made the world a better place simply because it existed. If only there were a way to describe a universal safety standard that would then allow a second-gen Can Am (as in build it, bring it, run it) "rules" package and races.

I got to see Donohue race this car at Laguna Seca back in the golden days VS the McLarens. Gives me goosebumps seeing it again. Legendary drivers in legendary cars.

I still remember watching this car at Riverside race way in California, in the 1970"s. Carroll Shelby was never associated with Porsche, but when He was asked what He thought would happen In a 48 hour race, like Le mans, he said..."No doubt Porsche would win, and probability be the only cars running at the end!!!!

Up to 100 mph in 1 Gear. That's insane...

Mark Donohue was the true master of the 917/30.

I saw one these at Road Atlanta in 1972. Of course it won!!

Porsche there is no substitute !

Front collision? what the heck if there is no one in front of you ;-)

@danmenefee5437

5 жыл бұрын

Point well made and taken!

Long live Can-Am....

AMAZING CAN-AM!! GO ADAM!!

I don't know why, but I read the title as "/GOING RACING WITH ADAM's COROLLA"

Penske/Donahue knew how to win.

the drivers of this thing must have had balls of steel ...

@Logan912

6 жыл бұрын

Mark Donohue wanted a car that he could dominate Can-Am with, and Porsche gave him one.

I like Adam Carolla when he's like this - not trying to be all funny and entertaining. I wasn't a fan of his, at all, before this (especially when he was on Top gear USA). He actually seems like a cool car-dude - and he's actually way more knowledgeable than I thought - which is not the impression I got from him on other shows. Nice vid!

awesome Car!

"I asked him what it was really like to race." “I can’t really tell you I’m afraid. It was never in the plan to actually race it. The plan was to start in front and stay in front. No racing required. And that’s exactly what we did...... Vic Elford

Nice car. Thumbs up. I would rather see the car drive than a tabletop review.

Mr Carolla , I have new respect for you , not that you didn't before but damn you are a gear head too !!? awesome

So lucky to have seen them at the Glen even Jackie Stewart. Donahue George former the l&m with the cow catcher

When I was racing years ago, mostly in California, I saw this car at Riverside and Laguna Seca. Mark Donahue was a very smooth fast driver and I thought the match up of this car and Donahue was perfect. It's a shame that the Porsche expert had to endure such a clown interviewer. Just the Porsche expert speaking would have been much better.

Overkill doesn't work?! I think even Mr. Michael Schumacher would have trouble with such cars, driving such monsters to the finish! Maybe one needs broader tracks and wider bends for such "airplanes"?! Remember the Killer B's in Rallying in the 1980's, they were too hard to handle, with +/- 500 b.h.p. they killed to many, finishing that Category....

@Astrofrank

3 жыл бұрын

But Michael Schumacher (before his skiing accident) might be one of the few people being able to drive that car at high speed, as his Benetton cars also had a setup with much oversteering.

Porsche always knew what they were doing & how to win. An insane car !

Nice of the dudes at turn 10 to include the full power version in forza 7.

A historic car with such a pedigree is a beautiful thing. Yet WHO do they get to cover it? A guy named Carolla!

Adam Corolla is like a 50/50 mix of Jeremy Clarkson and Seth McFarlane. I like that.