Man this season is proving the Gobert trade wasn’t THAT bad

@zekeharris5276

4 ай бұрын

It was bad stop it

@AndrewLeonard46

4 ай бұрын

@@zekeharris5276Minnesota is 1 in the west lmao?!

@benadrylcucumberman981

4 ай бұрын

@@zekeharris5276 Sftu minnesota is one of if not the best team in the nba right now, they didn’t need those players, they just kept building a squad that’s great on offense and defence, and that last part is mainly thanks to Gobert

@No_Budget.Builds

4 ай бұрын

​@@benadrylcucumberman981 bro they were terrible last year. So half a season of good play is equal to 5 players and 4 picks? 2nd round exit at best isn't worth all of that. And they gave up defensive talent to aquire him which just makes it a bad trade

@Anthony-oz1jc

4 ай бұрын

@@benadrylcucumberman981 still a bad trade. sure he is playing well but it was too much for a player of goberts quality still stupid

The fact that the Kyle Korver for a copy machine trade isn't on this list just shows you how good that copy machine was

@tedmoise1398

4 ай бұрын

Don't be so quick to downplay this trade. It was more than just a copy machine. It printed and copy too. That's like having a franchise player in your office back in 2003.

@HeyItSam

2 ай бұрын

​@@tedmoise1398 And it faxed too.

@jakerojas4756

Ай бұрын

Michael Bolton has no complaints

@gugaaraujo98

29 күн бұрын

I didn't know about this story. It's unbeliavable. It's incredible how short sighted a GM can be. Traded him for a couple thousand dollars

As a Timberwolves fan, I was hella annoyed with the Gobert trade at first. Really seemed like a rash decision (to say the least). However, this 2023-2024 season, he's proven to be one of the more valuable members of the team in many occasions and is on track to win his 4th DPOY with our #1 D.

@benadrylcucumberman981

4 ай бұрын

Totally agree

@MNSportsJunkie101

4 ай бұрын

Minnesota having Anthony Edwards and the young supporting cast it does is another reason I thought calling the Gobert trade the worst of all time was a highly exaggerated claim.

@newthrash1221

4 ай бұрын

All those trades and losses of picks just to not even make it out of the first round. Bet.

@Is0keem

4 ай бұрын

​@@newthrash1221 Didn't the wolves play the nuggets lol ofc they would get wacked

@MNSportsJunkie101

4 ай бұрын

@@Is0keem Think he’s saying that’ll happen again this year, which whatever. No one believes in a long struggling team until they prove it.

That bill russell one was crazy

@Phillygoat1983

3 ай бұрын

Ice skating equals 11 championship now that's wild 😂😂😂😂

Few things: - The TWolves trade seemed bad at the time and is still an overpay, but Minnesota's 1st in the west and is a surefire contender. - Ainge gave up a boatload of picks in that 2007 trade (7 alone for KG iirc) so if they didn't win a title it was a failure. (Edit: should also mention that this team almost failed multiple times: they went to 7 against the 8th-seeded Hawks and LeBron’s Cavs, then 6 games each against Detroit and LA., including a 24-point comeback in Game 3 of the Finals.) - Fultz ruined his shoulder, but he would've been a star had that not happened. - Kobe refused to play for the Hornets. - Rodman was an absolute cancer on the Spurs. He didn't stick to defensive assignments, constantly misbehaved, and was a huge reason they lost in the 1995 playoffs.

@CDeeez94

4 ай бұрын

All big facts. 💯

@bumblebity2902

4 ай бұрын

No, Hornets-Lakers trade was under table agreement.

@justhuy7960

4 ай бұрын

@@bumblebity2902 yeah Lakers asked Hornets to pick Kobe, Hornets didn't even know this dude and just picked him cause Lakers asked for it

@therealspikeflee

4 ай бұрын

Context matters.

@JohnnyYeet123-sr8xk

4 ай бұрын

@@JacksonWalter735 Kobe and Pau only beat them once. In 2009 KG got injured and missed the entire postseason. Orlando beat them in 7. And in 2010 all the big three were noticeably worse than in 2008, especially KG. Boston also didn’t have Perk so Pau feasted. LA wasn’t as top-heavy but their team was constructed way better, and they had Phil Jackson while Boston had Doc Rivers. So the fact it was even close says something imo.

That Westbrook one was personal huh lol. And the spurs trading Rodman isn’t even all that bad. It was all about fit. Rodman was NOT going to play with Pop and the spurs.

@DMalltheway

4 ай бұрын

Will Purdue helped them win in 1999 too

@NateArchibaldWithTheFro

4 ай бұрын

@@DMalltheway see man that’s what I’m saying. Thank you

@texarican_77

3 күн бұрын

Yeah...zero chance Rodman would've played for Pop

Saying the wolves won 41 games with rudy without mentioning kat's 60+ missed games is a huge cherry pick lmfao. Saying kessler played better defense is fine, he did slightly. But let's not leave out the fact rudy averages 2x as many points and like 5 more rebounds per game.

@teenoneofyabusiness1424

2 ай бұрын

Rudy is definitely better on defense

@MNPhantom

2 ай бұрын

@@teenoneofyabusiness1424 im talking about last season and it was kind of close between gobert and kessler last year

It’s great that Gobert and the Wolves are playing much better this season, but I also understand the true value of this trade is gonna be judged in the playoffs.

You released this 41 min ago knowing Gobert is a rebounding/block league leader on the #1 team on the West while Kessler and Vando are coming off the bench in reduced roles lol nooooo way

@Heyjjay0

4 ай бұрын

Gobert is overrated he really is not a star and honestly Kessler is would’ve did well in Minnesota

@WingmanFilms

4 ай бұрын

@@Heyjjay0 So Kessler, playing 18 min off the bench for Utah is a real star, but Gobert starting for the #1 Wolves is not. Got it. I never said he was a star btw, I said he was a rebounding/block leader, which is undisputed fact. The Moses Malone example was better, I wish this video started with that. Overall it's a good video.

@lansvale28

3 ай бұрын

Gobert was an overpay for sure, but shouldn’t be part of this list. Kessler’s stats show he is actually one of the best run defenders in the league right now with opponents shooting 20% below their average. Insane.

@OkSlouth

3 ай бұрын

@@Heyjjay0anyone who says Gobert is overrated truly does NOT watch basketball and gets all their takes online

@Kevji9

Ай бұрын

@@Heyjjay0 Kessler is a meh player, he has no mental

I’m far from a wolves fan. But this season definitely changed the narrative of the trade. As of right now it absolutely seems worth it. Now they still overpayed a lot but the trade isn’t a failure.

@INVINCIBLE-qs7no

4 ай бұрын

it was still an overpay

@stay_me703

4 ай бұрын

@@INVINCIBLE-qs7no Didnt he state that it was an overpay? No one is arguing with you 😂

@andresscott3927

3 ай бұрын

So 5 first round picks its worth it for a 1st seed a couple of months?

@mr.longjohn0014

3 ай бұрын

@@andresscott3927 Read my last sentence again bozo.

@OkSlouth

3 ай бұрын

@@andresscott39274 26-30th picks are not good lol

One thing people overlook about the Rudy Gobert trade is that the Timberwolves did it to surround Anthony Edwards with winning basketball early in his career, which is something that they massively failed at when developing Kevin Love, Ricky Rubio and then Towns and Wiggins. While Rudy Gobert hasn't had the most success in the postseason he's been on team's that at least made the playoffs every year which Minnesota can't say has been accomplished since the KG day's

@lalremruatpuiarenthlei4665

4 ай бұрын

Still an overpay imo, they basically have no picks in the near future, how will they continue to build, free agents.... Nah Rudy is earning too much.

@OkSlouth

3 ай бұрын

@@lalremruatpuiarenthlei4665they don’t need picks Anthony Edwards Jaden McDaniels and naz Reid ARE the future.

@lalremruatpuiarenthlei4665

3 ай бұрын

@@OkSlouth how they gonna pay all of them? Rudy's contract is massive. They already have Rudy, Kat and Ant on max contract.Ant and Jaden Macdaniel are still on their rookie/smaller deal, Conley is expiring. Naz Ried is prolly gonna demand more money. Their window for a chip is not long IMO. They are already near the salary cap this season, and next season it will be higher.

@OkSlouth

3 ай бұрын

@@lalremruatpuiarenthlei4665 read my comment again clown

@D0rlisok

10 күн бұрын

@@lalremruatpuiarenthlei4665clueless

Please do more Draft stuff and trades; also about the NFL, thanks ❤️

It’s a good day when nonstop uploads

Look at the lakers now lol it definitely wasn't Russell's fault that's for sure 😂

@INVINCIBLE-qs7no

4 ай бұрын

won the ist buddy

If wolves win their first championship ever this year, this video will have aged terribly.

@MangoTroubles-007

2 ай бұрын

They will not, no need to worry

Let's not forget when the Knicks threw away their whole core of players, even the water boy, to get Melo early midway season when they could've just waited till summer to get him for free and keep a really good team.

@Reese1882yw

4 ай бұрын

Lakers did the same thing with AD he had been vocal about playing in LA two seasons before the trade😂

@SIB-6

4 ай бұрын

Yeah but it is a little different because LA won a ring and the knicks were just kinda mid while Melo was there

@Reese1882yw

4 ай бұрын

@@SIB-6 that's partially Melo fault though he didn't get along with anyone he was the one who demanded the Knicks move Lin after he missed games with injuries plus he's the one who wanted Amare Stoudemire even though he was super injury prone at the time.

@OXIGM

4 ай бұрын

@@Reese1882yw not only that, he was the one who constantly demanded both Denver and Knicks to do the trade ASAP, and because of his desperation and Knicks FOMO effect they went with it, which did them wrong.

@antmck99

3 ай бұрын

​@@Reese1882ywAD contract would been restricted, mean the pelicans could match him

It's crazy how as soon as James got traded he turned into the one of the best players in the league

@RafitoOoO

4 ай бұрын

He won 6MOTY with OKC, he was playing 3rd fiddle in that team, the potential to be the main guy was there even before the trade.

@trvpstarr_jey

4 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@RafitoOoOyea but when he left he won mvp then was the best player in the league

@russellwestbrookyellingatw9381

4 ай бұрын

People don't understand that Harden would never be nearly as good if he stayed in OKC.

@matthewrock4725

Ай бұрын

Because his usage rate shot to the sky no longer having two better players above him

Kobe forced the hornets arms and said that he would only play for the Lakers. The hornets really didn't have a choice but to trade him.

@PlaystationNigga-jv9fm

4 ай бұрын

it was because he had a workout with them

Yea the James Harden trade is dumb in hindsight but in real time it didn’t seem that bad.

@redmangoose182

4 ай бұрын

Yeah they needed a big in Ibaka from what I remember. Like it made sense at the time. No one knew Harden would blossom like he would.

@BoskoShabazz

4 ай бұрын

@@redmangoose182 they had Ibaka already but they didn’t want to go into luxury tax and people forgot that Harden played horrible in the finals that year.

@jarodmorris4408

4 ай бұрын

Yes, because Harden was wont 3 championships since the trade...oh, he's not won a single thing! And Houston gave up their future for Harden in the form of a lot of draft picks. Harden wasn't going to sign any free agent deal with OKC so why not get something out of it? One of those draft picks became Steven Adams. Harden had already declined the offer made by OKC. This was a no-brainer and our forgetfulness shouldn't make us think the trade was bad.

@adamdavis5383

4 ай бұрын

And he wasn’t that great as a Thunder.

@M0v3rsandSh00t3rs

4 ай бұрын

Yes it did, everybody knew Harden could lead the league in scoring but got low balled for Ibaka’s contract

As a Pistons fan, that Saddiq Bey trade we had last year was atrocious.

@ulyssesperry886

4 ай бұрын

All the pistons trade was bad since Blake left

The second I heard the Gobert trade being brought up I knew this dude has no real nba knowledge whatsoever, the Gobert trade was well and truly worth it. What did the wolves really give up? A few late first rounders and a few average role players??? They’re now first seed in the west and have been for 2 months, and they have by far the best defensive team in the league. They literally got exactly what they wanted. Bro has absolutely no ball knowledge

@SludgedB

3 ай бұрын

📠

@sno_au

3 ай бұрын

yeah what a shit video, agree

@blackhand8299

3 ай бұрын

Both things can be true at the same time. It wasn't one of the worst trades but they still overpaid for him, I mean compared to other stars, the amount they traded for to what they got. They definitely overpaid. But Gobert isn't a bad player by any means and the media and people were unfair. He needed to adjust to the system which last year was just bad. But glad that they're at the top of the world rn and as someone who doubted Gobert, I'm happy to be wrong.

@hess8269

3 ай бұрын

I really don't think it was that big of an overpay honestly. It was a bunch of role players and a few late picks for the best rim protector in the entire league. The system wasn't bad last year, there was just a ton of injuries and the team never actually got a chance to gel and figure things out. It's just a horrific choice to put him in this video, especially first.@@blackhand8299

Calling okc a dynasty is a BIIIIG stretch

@nonstop

4 ай бұрын

We're saying they could of been a dynasty had they not traded Harden. 😂

@ry_an.

4 ай бұрын

@@nonstophow can you be a dynasty when you lose in the finals

As a wolves fan, The Gobert trade turned out to be great. All the first round picks are overrated. And this season, Gobert was way better than those 5 players that were traded. Gobert is as valuable as Ant and KAT come playoffs time

@user-hk8jx6uk5j

3 ай бұрын

All those players are trash role players. Creator of this video doesn't follow the Wolves.

@blackhand8299

3 ай бұрын

​@@user-hk8jx6uk5jjust because those picks were just role players doesn't mean they didn't overpaid. All it took was 1 good Player and it would be even harder to justify the Gobert Trade as it is.

@paveltkachyov9928

3 ай бұрын

not alone, old dude named Michael the best PG in this situation

@user-hk8jx6uk5j

3 ай бұрын

@blackhand8299 so who is the one good player? A guy from a draft pick 4 years from now?? What is your point? Unfortunately, the Wolves are good, but will not win a championship until KAT is traded.

Don’t forget Utah traded Trey Lyles and the 24th pick in the 2017 draft to Denver for the 13th pick. Utah took Donovan Mitchell at 13. In 2013 Utah traded the 46th pick and cash to Denver for the 27th pick. Utah drafted Rudy at 27. Denver won a title so fans cant really complain, but those are some lopsided trades.

As an OKC Thunder fan I still can't believe OKC traded Harden. The mistake that they made was signing Ibaka first for 48 million which didn't leave enough to give Harden a legit offer. They should have waited to sign Ibaka and made sure they locked Harden down and then if they lost Ibaka so be it. Ibaka was the expendable player, not Harden. Had they kept KD, Russ and Harden together the Warriors dynasty never would have happened because OKC would have been kicking their ass every year on their way to multiple championships.

@Gig484

4 ай бұрын

Remember when they had all three in the Finals and still lost?

@joeldriver-sp2rg

4 ай бұрын

@@Gig484 Yeah because Brooks kept starting Perkins. They would have made it back to the finals though many times and won multiple championships.

@antmck99

3 ай бұрын

Harden would had walk

Celtics trading away Robert Williams III and Marcus Smart - who are both out of the season immediately - while getting Jrue and KP was gold.

The Rudy trade is an actually looking pretty solid now this season.

The broken fultz 😂😂😂

Bro whatchu mean? Gobert is a beast defensively this year! 🔥

You really love that cent on the dollar quote lol

Tim Connally made the Gobert trade which is ironic because of all the shrewd picks he made for Denver. He helped build Denver into the championship team, Calvin Booth put the perfect finishing touches on it.

As an Orlando Magic fan, the first thing that came to mind was Rob Dumbass Hennigan trading Victor Oladipo, Sabonis (2 future all stars) and draft capital to OKC for Serge Ibaka (Out of the league a few years later). That's an all timer right there.

@JacksonWalter735

4 ай бұрын

You guys have a solid core now though! Hoping your front office doesn’t screw it up

@noahlp6847

4 ай бұрын

Ibaka lasted half a year with the magic before being traded to the raptors for Terrence Ross

@BabaYagaRacing

3 ай бұрын

That gm worked for OKC then went to the magic got fired then went back to OKC. That still gets no attention! 100% inside job

@maormeltzer4969

3 ай бұрын

It gets even crazier when you realize Sam Presti used the same package (Oladipo+Sabonis) to get Paul George in a win-win trade with the Pacers. Not to mention what he got for PG from the Clippers. Man, he sure compensated for that Harden trade.

Worst trade ever: Prime Gasol for a bag of popcorn.

He said jason terry, kg, and paul pierce is 110 years old combine, great counting my boy

To be fair the Wilt Chamberlain trade made sense for the Warriors financially.

THIS IS CRUELY INSANE

OKC Thunder deserves every spot on this list😂

Hindsight trades shouldn’t be on here. Kobe and Dirk didn’t have the expectations that their careers ended the way the did…

That the Vince Carter trade isn’t on this list tells you how many horrible trades there were in NBA history

I know Marc gasol was an amazing player before anything, but k Brown for pau gasol was crazy at the time haha, I Loved gasol on the grizzly and thought he was super underrated since West has kg on wolves and Duncan and saw him play a bit of times, and he was always with Spain for Olympics.

The Timberwolves have spent more time as the 1 seed this season than the rest of franchise history combined and have the best defensive rating in the league. I feel like they dont have many complaints atm.

Need the NHL one for this.

The Bobcats training Kobe was one of the biggest mistakes ever

@bumblebity2902

4 ай бұрын

it wasn't because it was under table agreement with LAL

Celtics with two of the biggest fleeces in nba history s actually wild 😂

The amount of casual analysis and disinformation here is crazy 😂

Imagine passing on a future Hof 4 ice skating concerts😂😂😂

Now do a series where a trade was a win win situation for both teams

Gobert stays underrated lmao

“The harden trade marked the beginning of the end for the Thunder dynasty” What? We had no dynasty. We were a super young team with one finals appearance. We continued to be contenders for the next few seasons until KD left. That comment doesn’t make any sense.

what about the clippers thunder trade where the clippers got a husk of paul george and the thunder got shai and a decade's worth of first rounders

acting like the wolves would be nearly as good as they are now without gobert is seriously ignorant lmfao

Adrian Dantley made every team he played for worse. It's not a coincidence that the year the pistons traded Dantley for Mark Aguirre, they immediately won back to back championships with basically the identical roster. Bob McAdoo did win an MVP but is considered by most NBA historians as one of the weakest MVPs in undoubtedly the weakest NBA Era. He also wasn't a winner until he became a sixth man/ role player. I'm surprised the Magic Johnson trade isn't on here cause that literally started the showtime Lakers and he's considered by most a top 5 player of all time and the goat of all PGs. Also, I agree with all the comments saying the Gobert trade should no longer be on this list. As a nuggets fan, you should have mentioned how we gave the timber wolves the 13th pick, which was used on Donovan Mitchell, for Trey effing Lyles AND we also traded the 27th pick to the Timberwolves which was used to draft Rudy Gobert so yeah....

1:38 Perhaps Danny learned a bit from the legacy of Red.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 y’all know how to mention the most craziest points out 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 great video making

The 1998 decision wasnt that bad Robert Taylor just had more to go off which made gm trust him no one really knew how great Dirk could be until his 4th year in Dallas

The reason the Timberwolves lost more games last year was because KAT was injured for more than half the season

The goat once again strikes

i really thought the Gobert Trade was GARBAGE! at first. But then i realized that Rudy Gobert was him on the defensive end.

@zekeharris5276

4 ай бұрын

You realized ?

Okay to be fair to the Spurs, that “Best rebounder” has a lot other strings attached that are not going to show up in basketball stats, except maybe technical fouls and ejections. My favorite Dennis Rodman fact is that as of recently he was good personal friends with Kim Jong Un, and has spent more time in his presence and more time visiting North Korea, than any other American.

KG actually played with the Nets for another season…

Dude Minnesota is the number 1 in West 2 days after you release the video, how can that be a bad trade?

As a Thunder stan the trade was dumb with Harden but we really had a better record without Kev Martin, and would've went back to the chip had it not been for a injury

The Spurs trading Rodman had nothing to do with talent and everything to do with his attitude. Perdue was also a big part of the Spurs 99 championship.

As a Hornets fan, I understand why we traded Kobe since he wouldn't play for us, but trading SGA away on draft night has proved to be a terrible move.

Rudy gobert was a bad trade cuz imagine Timberwolves with KD pairing him with Ant man and KAT 👀

@Boof37

4 ай бұрын

Yeah and also imagine 0 rim protection. Biggest part the wolves are the one seed is them allowing least ppg in the west by a pretty far margin. I would still nut if wolves had KD to be fair

@thecoolrich

4 ай бұрын

@@Boof37 dude KD is a 1 in a million opportunity! There is no other player like KD in the nba and there probably will never be!! But for gobert there’s guys in the league currently arguably even better than him. Minnesota overpaid for a player that can be easily replaced but you can’t ever get a KD

@sin978

3 ай бұрын

It's impossible to imagine because Brooklyn wanted KAT and Ant for KD

@thecoolrich

3 ай бұрын

@@sin978 I’m sure if what we offered for Rudy we offered for KD, they would seriously consider

@sin978

3 ай бұрын

@@thecoolrich no they wouldn't. If you're the Suns, why give up a in your words "1 in a million player" for some scrubs and 5 firsts? That's basically asking you to get fired as a GM and fr your team to be stuck in BBall hell

Boston made a good decision trading those retired vets for picks to rebuild.

Also thanking Danny Ainge for trading Robert Horry and Vando to the Lakers 😅

Rudy is getting another DPOY This year and is playing the best defense of his career. Don’t know if i can make it through the video talking about Kessler and vando are better defenders

Desmond Mason and Gary Payton for Ray Allen was a weird ass trade too

Honestly as a Lakers fan when Russ trade happened i told myself wtf manager thinking... And that Kobe trade for Divac was Jerry Wests genius if im remembering right.

The Hawks wasn't quite so bad, as they got 2 future Hall of Fame players in exchange for the draft rights to what turned out to be the most dominant defensive player of all time. But Rochester? What where they thinking?

Rudy really stepped up this season

Do how good was prime kemba walker actually

Timberwolves trade looking fantastic now

Oh so the Clippers have been cursed since Earth's existence? Got it lol

Bro traded free tickets for Bill Russell 😭

LEBRON is not INJURED, HE IS JUST a VERY VERY VERY VERY GOOD ACTOR

@Balanceunlimitedinfinite

4 ай бұрын

Oscar caliber

I know the racist dude who refused to draft Bill Russel ended up regretting it the rest of his life.

110 years old is crazy 💀💀

NBA - National Business Association or Basketball Circus....

gobert is carrying the wolves defense this season tho

Hey tracktor taylor wasn't a legend in nba but in BSN he is a legend in Bayamon with los Vaqueros rest in Peace big guy😢

KP for Dinwiddie+Bertans has to be mentioned at least. Mavs gave up a couple of 2nds too 😓

Orlando Magic trading Victor Oladipo and the rights to Domantas Sabonis for 6 months of Serge Ibaka probably set the franchise back a good 5 years

The Dennis Rodman trade shouldn't be here considering that the Spurs had the short end of the stick with Rodman demanding a trade

The Timberwolves traded their whole franchise for Gobert

to be fair Minesota aren't really missing any of the 5 players they traded

Dont forget that trade the Lakers did for Pau Gasol. Sending 4 nobodies for him to the Grizzlies

Thank to this video my opinion about 90's "stars" being dumb solidified.

You can’t say it’s a bad trade if no one knows if the person is good yet.

Rudys trade would’ve only been bad if the team was around the 8th seed. First round picks mean nothing to a 1st seed. Drafting Gleague players for no reason. Essentially gave up a couple of players and 5 gleague players. Maybe 1-2 beecome rotation pieces but thats it. We put alot of value on 1st round picks sometimes without taking account what that pick might actually be for that team.

Before watching the video… I already know at least a third of these involve Westbrook or Harden😂

I FORGOT HOW TO DO A TIMES CHAT

Kawhi Leonard got traded for George Hill 😂😂🔥🔥

#00:1 yes

I was waiting for Vince Carter trade from the raptors

Wtf is this hate against Gobert ???? Do you even make sense ???? They are the first team in the West, how do you even think it's not worth ??????????????

Who’s watching this as the Timberwolves with Gobert are the first seed

Actually Jason Tatum’s pick was from the kings then traded to the 76ers for dearron Fox then traded for Fultz and fultz pick was from Brooklyn not tatum’s

@mrbond9882

4 ай бұрын

So the 6ers f'd up twice is what you're saying? 😂

The fact that we chose Fultz over Tatum looks dumb as it is.