143. Hold things fast without clamps
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The holdfast is a steal hook that quickly holds down your work with the swing of a mallet. This tool is more than 300 years old and can be found in Joseph Moxon’s Mechanick exercise book written in 1692. It’s best selling features are its speed, durability and simplicity. Instead of wrestling with clamps to keep things from moving, it only takes a single blow to keep things in place. The only requirements you’ll need for this is a hole and a mallet. As far as bench thickness requirements, this tool actually does better with thinner bench tops and does fine with softwood like my pine bench top.
You might be tempted to clamp your work in a vise, but any downward pressure you put on it, like swinging a mallet against a chisel, means possible movement. With a holdfast, you can hold work down and don’t have to worry about it moving with blunt force. The downfall to these simple tools is that there is a chance of the work pivoting, but this can be taken care of with a piece of leather on the end of your hooks. My favorite part of these tools is how easy it is to remove and put them away. Smack them on the back edge and they pop up and your work is free. If you’re interested, you could buy these online but it’s much more gratifying picking them up from a local smith.
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@MartilloWorkshop
Жыл бұрын
Good style promoting purchasing from local blacksmiths. Sincerely, the local* blacksmith (*is Danish, will ship internationally)
@That-Google-Guy
Жыл бұрын
Moonlight Sonana makes this 1000 times better
@achannelhasnoname5182
Жыл бұрын
Fuck etsy, just full of overpriced shit
@jacobmorgan1182
Жыл бұрын
I'm a 16th generation mastersmith and I get tickled when a carpenter orders one because I know they have done their homework
@3xeplodng_3agle_studios
Жыл бұрын
@@MartilloWorkshop your kinsmen have a good reputation with two of my favorite things. Food, and metalwork. That, and that self-ad was pretty classy imo, especially for being in a KZread comment section! If ever I'm in need, I'll be sure to look you up. I'd like to have at least one piece of quality metalwork from every place on Earth which does traditional metalwork, by the time I pass on.
I love this simplicity "How do ya fix it down?" "Ya hit it." "Alright and how do you loosen it?" "Ya hit it again." "Ah, I see, but what if it slips?" "Get a bit a leather, and then hit it."
@xmo552
Жыл бұрын
Just like my lady.
@Sun-ng7gj
Жыл бұрын
@@xmo552 thats way more reliable than my lady was . I'm happy for you if this reminds you of her lol
@xmo552
Жыл бұрын
@@Sun-ng7gj 👍😂
@braydenh190
11 ай бұрын
Fucking George Carlin sketch right there
@durere
11 ай бұрын
sounds like my parents' parenting routine.
Now i know what all the holes in my old bench is for
@mariawhite7337
Жыл бұрын
Same but for the old benches at my grandpas house.
@tias8912
Жыл бұрын
Are*
@xtc2006
Жыл бұрын
@@tias8912 🤓
@ToxicAutisticTrash
Жыл бұрын
@@xtc2006 bro had to like his own comment
@benjaminzedrine
Жыл бұрын
Well...that and dogs.
No way, that’s why there was holes in the table in my old woodshop class! I was always super confused about these random perfectly drilled holes in the tables.
@ryanhernandez8324
Жыл бұрын
You must feel very lucky to have been taugh in a class that's over 300 years old! Very nice, mate.
@daveortwine2641
Жыл бұрын
Wow. As each day goes by, i see more and more evidence, we are fucked as a species.
@root1657
Жыл бұрын
Those holes work for bench dogs too...
@TheSauxyFxcker
Жыл бұрын
You never thought to ask your teacher about them?
@pws3rd170
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanhernandez8324 not sure if this is a poor joke or poor comprehension, the tool was invented over 300 years ago, they are still used and made today
Blacksmith here, Love making these things, I have dozen's of them around the shop. They work great on steel projects!
@mairjephillips4323
Жыл бұрын
What is this tool called?
@mairjephillips4323
Жыл бұрын
Ah. Nevermind
@HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat
Жыл бұрын
😮😮
@dirkhaar2243
Жыл бұрын
How much would a pair cost, and how much for shipping to Germany with DHL/UPS?
@rosivo3142
Жыл бұрын
you use these to hold down your metal projects as well?
I've also seen how much faster it is to punch holes in thin steel than it is to drill. These old tools are amazing.
@mandowarrior123
Жыл бұрын
And thick steel, you just need a steam hammer paha
The first time I saw a clamp like this was watching the PBS show "The Woodwright's Shop". It always amazed me.
@aaftiyoDkcdicurak
Жыл бұрын
This totally made me think of Roy Underhill.
@geoffkeller5337
Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching that show
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@tkc1129
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know KZread supports cuneiform names. Wow.
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Жыл бұрын
@@tkc1129 I was literally just wondering what their username is, thanks
@tkc1129
Жыл бұрын
@Abc Whatever I actually learned something wild related to cuneiform recently. You know how when we have a list or a chart, if we want to quickly fill in parts of it and indicate the value hasn't changed from the last value entered in that column, we will put a mark like this: " . Yeah, they used that exact same mark in the exact same way in some cuneiform languages. We've been using that for like 4,000++ years. I don't remember exactly what video I saw that on; something about royal astronomy/astrology libraries from that time.
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Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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These also exist as inspection tools, called "Hold down clamps", often used for CMM inspections. They are essentially the same thing but designed to work on a rod instead of through a hole so that you can free up and manually set your Z axis!
I use to use these in my middle school shop club! I completely forgot about how easy they are to use
If you do get a blacksmith to make them for you make sure he's done it before. There's some subtle geometry in them that is required in their design for them to work well.
@SirAtticbadger
8 ай бұрын
Yeah. I'm wondering what that is. What makes it stick?
@illurinatibeans4667
8 ай бұрын
@@SirAtticbadgerFriction
Love the Midnight sonata in the background
Omg! My parents bought an old lumber mill that was converted into a home. There was a "barn"/ workshop kind of area on the land. It had stables where you hooked the horses, loaded log, and an area that cut down logs to size. But there where work benches with holes made in them. We figured that they where used to size the boards being cut but they never lined up or measured out. They where most likely used for these things. So cool. Thank you. Today I learn.
if you're concerned about the piece moving, if you drill more holes in your workbench, you can insert plugs that will hold it in place on the sides along with the leather scrap
My dad literally made an exact replica of the table in that book including the side vice/clamp and uses it to this day.
@whereswaldo5740
Жыл бұрын
I built one too. But instead of the metal clamp I made a wooden one like an L with a slot in the long part and you use a wedge in the slot underneath to cause friction for clamping.
Why am I only learning about a thing so useful and so old now? Knowledge is being squandered in this digital age. Keep up the goodness man.
The Midol Hold Fast: Gets rid of clamps fast.
@jessebond4221
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@mena94x3
Жыл бұрын
👍🏼🤣🤣
I didn't need to know this but now I'm insanely interested and need more information lol
I went through a period as a welding apprentice managing the cut and drill department where i would make plate anvils and make tools for them. Hot and cold chisels Hold fast "Blacksmiths helper" (guillotine) And fuller dies. Soooo gratifying selling a package to some of the local ranch hands around my area.
I love tools like these that are a super simple solution to an annoying problem
I was looking for the minimum thickness. Thank you!
How do you not have a Masterclass? You have got to be thee most knowledgeable woodworking KZreadr I watch, yet receive the least amount of recognition. I love your stuff man, thanks for doing it! 👏
So simple and so effective it's great
This is one of the rare old inventions that is actually better in most situations.
Nothing I love in this world aside from genuine knowledge trasnfer
its even more gratifying to forge them yourself. i am strongly resisting the urge to build a forge Edit: for the people asking and wondering why i dont just build a forge: the only place i can put one is in my woodshop, and having a forge in a place with a bunch of wood, sawdust and flamable stuff, dosn't sound like a good idea.
@dumbleking5172
Жыл бұрын
May I inquire as to why you have restrained yourself from the joys of the forge?
@Acistra
Жыл бұрын
The forge gods ask that you create a forge in their honor.
@The_Gentleman_Blacksmith
Жыл бұрын
Build it.
@Reverend_Salem
Жыл бұрын
@Dumble King mainly space, the only real place i have to put a forge is in my woodshop. which dosn't seem safe.
@one8s7n
Жыл бұрын
If you build it... they will come
Nice shorts Rob! Thanks for sharing with us!😎JP
Amazing! I like these old oddities
Tension... it's the most underappreciated force, yet it has so much potential.
And it’s EVEN MORE gratifying to make them your self
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That's actually really useful. After ages I learned some new interesting & useful idea. Thanks man ❤
Been in construction for 10 years and have heard all the old timers tell me all the things from how thing used to be. Wish I could go back then. Even for a week to see how they did things
I love playing this piece on piano.
@ballyhoomk.2780
Жыл бұрын
What piece is it?
@wearthedead
Жыл бұрын
@@ballyhoomk.2780 moonlight sonata by Beethoven.
@wearthedead
Жыл бұрын
@@ballyhoomk.2780 also, he had wrote it around the time he wanted to marry a lover and her father wouldn’t allow it because of his social status.
The simplicity is just… beautiful
I think I saw Adam Savage using this tool in a couple of his "one day build" videos. Now I see how it works. Genius!
The hitting of the hold fast was oddly satisfying
That's a cool tool! Thanks for the education!!
I remembered I used this mechanic when I was a kid for a tons of uses, not only for holding I didn't know it was really invented as a tool!
That is ingenious. People were so smart back then.
Blacksmiths think of everything! They’re like engineers and craftsman conveniently rolled up into one human, legends 💯😎
One of the first things every blacksmith makes.
You know what's even more gratifying? Smithing them yourself. ;-)
My woodshop teacher in high school was adamant on teaching us the old ways. These things absolutely fascinated me. We also made our own bench hooks that work great for holding your work while using a plane.
Wow, what a great tool to have around the shop. I just love the comments where people knew and use this oldie but goodie. Knowing damn well they have clamps galore laying around their dusty shop.
Primitive mindsets can serve us better in many aspects of modern life.
old tools are so practical
omg look how simple that is, i have never seen it before, yet it makes so much sense.....
And it is even more satisfying to make one your self
Omg, so that's why there are so many holes on the sides on every fricking workbench, no matter how old!
Thank you very very much! I absolutely adore the techniques of old
Incredible. Joseph Moxon is a genius.
You're so right, the best is to make it yourself 😃
Oh I know that as the third hand in blacksmithing
“But it’s better to pick it up from a local smith” 🔥👏💯
easy solitions, so satisfying
This is actually so crazy. I didn’t know these existed.
That’s awesome never heard of it so simple and way better than clamp
holdfasts were my favorite tool in the metal shop. one quick tap of the hammer and a hild fast on each side. your shit isnt moving unless you want it too
This is why welding tables have the grid of holes, usually square holes but the tooling is basically the same.
I dabble in small blacksmithing projects. Definitely making these
used these occasionally in the metal studio studying fine art, very handy tool, especially if you need to lock something in place over and over moving it frequently because you can so quickly tighten and tighten it.
Briliant on its simplicity
Omg where gave these been all my life
This is sacred information and I thank you
They are using these in a current French castle that they are still making in modern times today! Still a great tool used by historians!
Bro really did just make an ad for a 15th century bar of steel.
@jessebond4221
Жыл бұрын
Much much older than that lol the Chinese have used these since atleast the 5th century probably farther than that but exact dates on when they entered the iron age are fuzzy
Never understood these on my gramps old work table. Thanks for this!
Awesome tip 👍🏴
Great choice of background music
Love the background music
Awesome video and great song.
Does that not mess the hole up over time?
@jonathancoley8495
Жыл бұрын
Depends on the wood. Hardwood tops will be just fine but softwood will probably widen over a few years of use
@nicmasterdude
Жыл бұрын
Been using mine in a douglas for top for 3 years with zero issues.
@AflacMan13
Жыл бұрын
Hardwood will work fine. If you're worried about it though, a metal grommet tube can help, but then you also have to put a rubber grommet inside that. Just use hardwood for the table top.
@Federico-1
Жыл бұрын
@@AflacMan13 there’s no way I’m the only juvenile one that thinks his question is funny. Also there’s no way u said to put a rubber on it.
@shawnwilcowski
Жыл бұрын
@@Federico-1 BROOO RIGHT!!!! 😂 💀
Its even more gratifying to make it yourself
How have I never learned about this before!!
Ill pick one up on my way to see the charcoal burner.
that Beethoven Sonata music on the background really uplifts the video for me 🧐😌
I have no need of this but I now want one.
I don't know why when u smacked it on the back I cracked up 🤣
Imagine if some nerd in 300 years used your portrait to symbolize 300 years old. Feels bad man
Black Bear forge makes the best hold fast you can buy. A legend among woodworking forums
Double up a hook and a vice. Ultimate stillness. Maximum... holdiness.
Bro I've just loving this tool❤️🇸🇪
Thank you I didn't know I needed one
And ten times as gratifying to make it yourself!
Never heard of them. Awesome!!
That piano brings me back to my days in Germany, I heard a man play that piece beautifully once
@ELTABULLO
Жыл бұрын
And then you shot him, you damned Nazi!
Dude! This is an actual useful tip!
A friend of mine is an amateur blacksmith who really likes old tools. I sent him this video and he'll probably be making some of these things this weekend.
As a local smith, thanks. Support your local smith, we work hard and almost never charge what our time is actually worth
Old school toggle clamp. I LOVE IT!
i cant stop laughing at how he smacked that shit in like the back of the head and it let it go
Ohhh, so that's what those holes do. That 100 year old work bench in the barn makes sense now.
"Smack them on the back and they pop up" has to be in a song somewhere.
I purchased a pair of cast hold fast that didn't even last one day. My wife got me a set of forged ones, and they are still working more than a year later!
BEAUTIFUL.
That's genius!!
Well that's pretty slick. I've used a lot of welding fixturing clamps that work on a similar principle, where they just kind of lock into the holes in a table.
I'm a blacksmith myself and the first time I found one of these was a miracle, I had never had a way to hold my metal still on my anvil without using tongs, meaning i would always be one hand short. Having a hold fast would allow me to punch holes or chisel metal away without it moving, great tool!
THAT'S why workshop tables have holes! I've been in several workshops and have always been curious why there are some holes in the top.
@jessebond4221
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget because of pegs... Pegs and wedges are the best way to clamp a board for hand planing and they use the same hole as holdfasts