Great video! The argument for free will and suffering becomes irrelevant when considering the suffering of animals and the planet in the context of an omniscient God.

Another first!

How can a new born baby have original sin (evil)?

It's a question with a relatively simple answer if you stop insisting on the self-contradictory idea of a perfect and benevolent creator god. When you have to twist everything else to make one piece of the puzzle fit, maybe the issue is that that piece didn't belong in the puzzle in the first place.

@join.arethion

Ай бұрын

I think you're spot on with that. The original conceptions of the Israelite God included the notion that he created evil. Over time, that changed. Once you try to argue that he DIDN'T create evil, that's when you introduce the "problem of evil." It's quite a conundrum for Christianity...

@antonioscendrategattico2302

Ай бұрын

@@join.arethion Yep. And it truly isn't that big an issue. It only becomes that when you try to fit a square peg in a round hole.

Most christians I know disregard the old testsment requirements bc we are now in a new covenant since Jesus came. The old God that was mean can now be loving😅

Great videos! In this one you mention that Christians believe there is free will in heaven. That's because they've never actually read the Bible. The Bible says you literally praise and sing for eternity. That's it. No cloud houses. No meeting your lost love ones. Just singing and praising for eternity. That's hardly free will lol

@generalMcBoozey

Ай бұрын

I just watched the next episode after this 😂. Thank you for saying that about heaven. Very few Christians know the truth about that horrible monotonous place. To me it sounds like another form of torture.

@join.arethion

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your kind comments! When I was a Christian, I was definitely surprised to learn the truth about heaven. My vision of it was rooted in movies and CCM songs (which made it sound pretty appealing!), but when I finally understood the vision of heaven presented in the Bible, I was honestly confused and a bit dispirited...

@generalMcBoozey

Ай бұрын

@@join.arethion Same buddy... same. :( ... I guess we shouldn't have actually READ the Bible. But they told me reading it would bring me closer to God 🤷‍♂️🤣

I don't really believe inna objective good and evil so the problem of good and evil is irrelevant to me, at least logically. Regardless if god is all loving, then wouldn't it want all types of beings and states to thrive? Wouldn't it allow for all sorts of diseases, storms, predators, worldviews and more to thrive alongside you? The idea of "suffering" seems to be highly ego-minded anyway and the idea of good and evil on a cosmic scale seems very anthroprocentric to me. Regardless, still not a fan of an eternal reality of pain. It's a terrible and manipulative idea to me. Even though I see "evil" as a subjective term I still don't like it, which seems to be the only actual argument against sin the Abrahamic idea of god ever gives anyway. I cannot see how it's anything but might makes right. Still I always consider the problem of evil to be a pretty weak argument against the idea of God, but I guess within a typical Abrahamic worldview with all that objective morality speal it's a big flaw.

Why did this so called god pester Job sorry give him trials.

Isaiah 45:7 King James Version 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. ______ After a thorough examination of the literary compendium known as the Bible (biblios), it becomes evident that the authors recognized a singular origin for all existence, irrespective of its perceived nature as benevolent or malevolent. Within our world, diverse forms of energy, such as electricity and water, are omnipresent. These energies possess the capacity to provide sustenance and vigor, yet they can also inflict harm (death) under certain circumstances. The resolution to this conundrum is relatively uncomplicated: diligently cultivate your observational faculties, thereby acquiring novel insights. By altering your perspective, you have the power to transform your perception of the surrounding world. "When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at...change"

Another dumb video preaching nonsense and the myths of religion. Not a scintilla of evidence anywhere in the video.

@toumpanis

Ай бұрын

follow your dreams, keep sleeping!

@join.arethion

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I don't quite follow your comment, though. This is a theological / philosophical topic. We cover more "evidence-based" topics like the text of the Bible itself, forgeries, archaeology, Biblical cosmology, and more in the rest of our video series. But I don't quite follow what "evidence" you're referring to in this video/topic.

@maylingng4107

Ай бұрын

@@join.arethion The evidence lacking is the connection of human behavior and suffering with the god mythology.

@mugikuyu9403

Ай бұрын

@@maylingng4107are you some kind of idiot? Because the video is critiquing the point of view you’re claiming it’s upholding.

@generalMcBoozey

Ай бұрын

@@maylingng4107 Why do you think mythology was created? Because it's true? That seems to be the only other option than what is discussed in this video.