So... what are you going for? 14-inch or 16-inch?

@ZlodeyMr

2 жыл бұрын

All my macbooks were 13" and I always wanted bigger screen but after switching to this new 16" I also feel it's too chunky and heavy, I think that previous 15" was a perfect size for large screen laptop and they could make it even smaller by shrinking bezels especially considering their new arm chips that don't require as much cooling as before but something went wrong. I recently saw new Huawai laptops in my local store and I was impressed by the fact that their 15.6" model weighs 1.53 kg that is even lighter than new macbook 14" but it's screen feels more like 16" model equivalent. I feel I would carry around such laptop without any problems without sacrificing screen size and I wish Apple make something similar. Now I decided to sell my 16" to replace it with 14" model even considering that 14 feels almost the same as 13 model in screen estate because ergonomics is very important to me when I'm using laptop on couch and in other non-desktop scenarios, in other cases I'd rather connect it to external monitor that makes screen size not very important.

@skylarsteel91

2 жыл бұрын

The 16” feels much more comfortable on a lap which, I feel not many have mentioned. With a 14”, there’s a feeling of needing to push your knees together to keep it on your lap. The 16” allows you to relax and feel less “pinched”

@SuperPudley

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 12.9” iPad, so I don’t want the 14” because is to close for the iPad! So I want the 16” MacBook Pro.

@alkenstein

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZlodeyMr Funnily enough, I bought the 14" a month ago, I love the portability but I just can't get used to the smaller screen size (moving from the intel 15" Mac). So I'm returning this and replacing with a 16". I kind of wish they'd released another 15"!

@alkenstein

2 жыл бұрын

@@skylarsteel91 Also I feel the 14" screen feels a bit too small on my lap - the screen needs to be closer (like a tablet). This is also why the 16" works better on the lap I feel

Great info Mark, Both of these machines are well above my requirements for work so I am still very satisfied with my M1 Mac mini BUT it is always tempting to have the best of the best.

Yes already got the 16 inch m1 pro just 1 tb storage and 16 gb it’s wonderful and more than adequate for me; the larger display is unbeatable.

I’m probably going for the 16”, M1 Pro, 2 TB storage, 32 GB RAM. Yes, it costs a visibly ridiculous amount of cash. But it’d be replacing a 2009 17” MBP that I’ve somehow been able to keep running for nearly 12 years now. If I get half the useful life out of it, then the maths say my cost per day compared to the expected value will be quite palatable. I _am_ one of those “specific use case” customers: a Web developer using tools like Docker and Kubernetes. I expect to be able to run some of my more complex setups on a single physical Mac, instead of the 2 or 3 it takes now - and on a MBP I can take anywhere. It’s lighter than the 2009 at 2.1 kg vs 2.99 kg. The processor jump alone will be ginormous; think a max-spec BMW racing an old reliable Model T Ford. I’m excited, tempered only by the price (even on the instalments that Apple and my bank offer). Thanks for yet another great video!

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for such a helpful, lovely comment!

@kindesgedanke

2 жыл бұрын

I got the 16“, M1 Pro, 32GB with 1TB SSD (I hope I won’t wish that I got the 2TB version since I was considering when ordering but decided against it) and I absolutely love it. I upgraded from a 2013 13“ MacBook Air. I‘m not a niche user, a MBA M1 would’ve been enough for my use but two USB-C ports and nothing else? No way. I love MagSafe too much to give it up. I don’t regret buying it. Worth every penny I paid for it.

@YG-rt5yk

2 жыл бұрын

If you are going for 32gb of ram make sure to upgradt the cpu the 24 core m1 it is only 200$ and it will be worth it

This video really helped me to decide which will be the 14 inch, the size and the portability makes it perfect!

Thank you Mark. I've been watching your videos. I am replacing my mid 2012 13 in i7 Macbook Pro. So, I was debating on getting the iMac 24 in or getting a bigger screen Macbook Pro. I followed your advise. I went to a retailer to see and feel both products. The 16 in MBP looks great, however my current MBP rarely leaves my desk, so mobility is not an issue for me. My old MBP I7 was upgraded to 1 Tb SSD storage and 16 gigs RAM, therefore I wanted something similar. Long story short, I needed a bigger screen computer, with at least 1 tb SSD and 16 gigs of RAM. So I ordered an iMac 24 in. These things are not cheap by any means, but your videos surely help to make a decision. Thank you again.

My 16-inch arrived yesterday and I LOVE IT. It’s a gorgeous machine. I’m excited to start using it.

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Have fun!

incredible info, thank you

Super Video! You have a really nice delivery Mark. I have a 14 inch Max turning up tomorrow, I think with a 24 Core... I say I think as its £2999 from JL but it doesn't say anywhere if its 32 or 24... Hoping its 24. I returned a 16 inch last week with 16GB ram as I felt like the performance in photoshop was a tad too similar to my M1 Air. Seems photo editing requires more ram than video which I find odd. I've got really used to the Air size and screen size, sat on a cushion on the sofa!! :)

I took back the 14” and got the base 16”… love it!

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

I want to be able to use one machine only on the go for my graphic design works, that's the only reason why I went for the 16" over the 14". I mean I could always use the iPad as a second screen but that's not always practical, especially because Sidecar still won't let me use it in portrait which is SO good on Duet if you're on Illustrator or InDesign or whatever to place there the windows and have the content you're working on in full screen on the Mac. But I don't really need to do that anyway, the real estate on this 16" screen is incredible

For those who liked the 15", compare the dimensions. I own a 15 and the new 16. The 16 is actually not as wide or tall as the 15. It is slightly deeper and weighs just a small tad more. I'm keeping my 16.

Damn you! Why do you have such fluid transitions between all your videos 😩 I need to be studying right now and here you are providing useful insight on my next upgrade... smh

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Oops 😂

Went with the 16 inch. One extra pound to carry no big deal. Might even do you some good 💪🏼

Hi Mark, I've been watching your videos and found them very informative. I'm in the market for one of these new M1 Pros, possibly a 16 inch. I'm in the market because the battery on my 2016 MacBook Pro, 15 inch, i7 is dying (and sometimes completely crashes the machine, while running hot enough to burn my fingers...with fans going wild!) I'm a retired graphic artist and no longer need this for work, but just for emails, Safari with lots of tabs open, Photoshop for working on holidays images and use of Apple Photos for slideshows and KZread videos (Airplay to my OLED TV) etc. I have a 14 year old who may need it for his high school level projects, possibly via Blender, Photoshop, InDesign, Lightroom and maybe Final Cut Pro. I intend to get back to working on my photographic website using RapidWeaver as well. I plan to go base model since the unified memory, SSDs and chips seem to be in a whole new ballgame and maybe I won't need any upgrades. Any advice based on my needs would be great thanks!

Great video, as always! For me, 16” all the way for screen size, battery, thermals, sound, and weight. Yes, weight! It will be much lighter than my 15.4” mid-2012, which has travelled well… and lasted very well thanks to an easy upgrade to SSD and 16Gb RAM. Remember those happy upgrade days?! 😃👍

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, I do!

@loughrey101

2 жыл бұрын

Battery life played a big part in my decision too that wasn't mentioned in this video. The 16 inch has about the same battery life than the M1 Air and better than even the binned 8-core 14 inch. The 14 inch isn't a great poster boy for Apple Silicon as its battery life isn't much different from the Intel models at around 10 hours of light use which many Intel models could reach

Maybe is the high power mode feature which prevents M1 Max from thermal throttling so there are maybe just difference in the chipset settings. Thank you for that information Mark.

Hi Mark, thanks for another great video. I agree to most of your comments and suggestions. But there is one let’s call it group of content creators that are left out: photographers. I am with you when you state that 16 inch + higher specs is useful to a small group of creators mainly working on 4k Video editing or 3D rendering etc. The bigger screen and the higher ram or GPU cores can be useful. For all others; the base pro will be more than enough. But what about photo editing? That group more or less falls in the middle. And within that group the majority is using Lightroom (which happens to be poor at GPU acceleration but leans mostly on CPU) so the argument that more CPU cores will not be noticeable still makes sense, but additional RAM might be very usefull for exporting. But Capture One, ON1 and few others are using relatively much more GPU and thus more GPU cores makes sense. Which leads me to an interesting dilemma (created brilliantly by Apple’s pricing strategy). If you’re photographer (prof or amateur doesn’t matter) using professional editing programs, likely you’re volume warrants going for 32 Gb instead of 16 GB. But if you go for 32 GB Ram (Unified memory) then it’s only a $ 200 step to get the M1 MAX 10/24 core. Not only that, these $ 200 will give you 50% more GPU cores (helpful if you’re using GPU intensive photo editing), 100% more bandwith, 100% more video engines (which you don’t need now but who knows you move from photo into video). Now funny enough, the 16 inch M1 Max 10/24 32 Gb happens to be approx $ 200 more expensive then the 14 inch. Like video editing, bigger screen is nice for photo editing. But by selecting the 14 inch MAX 10/24 with 2 TB storage I am mobile and can work anywhere. I will quickly learn if the smaller screen is hurting my editing results (or perhaps I might get tired sooner from the smaller screen). But if that happens than I’ll patiently wait until Apple releases their new monitor which is rumored to be more normal priced then the XRD Pro screen. 14 inch with sufficient capacity for now + some extra capacity for tomorrow + big screen back home seems not a bad to choice to me Sorry for long story but your videos make people think, thus some respond and try to give feedback thanks for making the videos and don’t stop

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Great points! I'm a photographer too :)

I have the 16”. I need a big screen for work. So no real choice. But it is not really that heavy. I have gone to a smaller more laptop form fitting bag. I move around a lot and it has never been too heavy. And battery life is decent. I use Google chrome solely for WFH and it uses a lot of battery. But it goes all day and charges fast. And you can just carry a chord and the charger if you have battery anxiety. I have never had to charge it will out in the wild. All in all it is a wonderful machine for WFH.

got the 14inch today loving it

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

Any suggestions when comparing the 14” to the 16” - M1 Max in terms of ‘core temp’ & ‘fan noise’ - when in clamshell mode? Thanks.

I absolutely do not need the power of this laptop. What I do want is a solid laptop that will last me 6-7 years. I effectively want a macbook air 16" with the display lol. I am very happy with the 16" M1 pro, for this purpose, and given the investment over 6-7 years expected lifetime is pretty decent overall imo - I also earn enough to spend a bit of a premium on a quality product.

I went with the 14” with 1TB. More than enough for me. Had the intel 16” a couple of years ago and found it just too heavy when using on my lap on the sofa. 14” is for me the perfect size. I also use it 80% of the time hooked up to a 25” monitor so have the extra real estate there when needed. Great video Mark.

I went with Macbook Air 16/512 after learning about the 14/16 specs and price.

I have a 16” intel version but I’m thinking to get the 14” M1 pro

Which macbook pro would you choose for photo editing and a little bit of video editing?

Common people complaining about the weight of their laptop in their backpack. ooooh a couple a grams more omg! I remember carrying a bunch of books to school everyday and people complaining about the weight of their laptop. What a world have we become!

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Haven’t we just! Don’t worry, I’m heading straight to a ‘Man Up’ class this evening.

@der_heftige_Harald

2 жыл бұрын

One in which I can carry my M1 Ipad 11 which contains digital versions of ALL written things Ill ever need every day while not feeling like putting my backpack down every once in a while. Its called future. If u enjoy bulking up 1000 of books, go ahead. Dont forget them squats though 😱

@randelmairs7688

Жыл бұрын

The world is just getting lazy , one laptop can no way break someone’s back or make them gain muscles. This ain’t the final stray that broke the camels back.

I got a 14 inch second tier for myself plan to edit video at some stage but do think gas syndrome got to me, my m1 mac mini 16/1tb does me fine……. Need to get my head into learning resolve and see how we go

I went with both - a 16” as a workhorse, and a 14” for travelling (and to some extent, sofa & coffee shops). That might be the best of both worlds, but if I were to choose then definitively the 16”. Yes, it’s slightly heavier, but the difference in screen size is a different world, the 14” screen is hard to work on for extended periods and the 16” feels like a release afterwards. I do like the 14” very much, but I LOVE the 16”. One thing, that I originally got the 16” with 1TB but later replaced with a 2TB, that made quite a difference because otherwise I was editing with an SSD dangling from the side all the time. The ability to work with nothing plugged in was liberating (16” with 2TB is more portable than 14” with external SSD), and I think also had a positive effect on battery life. Low power mode on the 16” M1 Max is a great feature also for travel, makes the battery last more like with the lower powered M1 Pro chip when you want.

old 15inch was the sweet spot.

These are great machine, no question about it, though I'd skip on both at this time. I'm a stationary desktop user with 2 4k monitors and all the usual peripherals, a laptop would feel like a waste as I won't be making much use of the use case a laptop is designed for. What I would really love to see is these chips becoming available for the mac mini real soon, as I would really love to have the fully spec M1 Pro chip in that device. And I'll probably would still get the 14 inch M1 Pro if the mac mini stays the way it is now. I also feel the M1 Max is only a real option for those that purchase these machines for income related work usage. For purely personal use the Max options make no sense, way too powerful and far to expensive.

This is the question I try to answer for almost 2 weeks 16MBP 32Gb 2To is ongoing but I hesit to switch on the 14 inch version I took the 16" because: price difference for my configuration is really small, this XDR screen, and I currently have a 17" Asus (3kg/6,60lb), don't travel much, also I have an iPad 12.9 But on the other hand: the 14" looks way more portable/smart, I don't think I need this extra-screen space (I have a doubt for orchestral works), have external 27", the resolution is enough for my use (hospital/research work and music for myself) I maybe have spent 4 hours in shops to see what I would prefer but it's really difficult

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

I think you need the 14-inch.

What are your thoughts on apple care for MacBooks? No one every talk about that

I'm just tring to decide what to buy, m2 pro 12cpu, 19gpu, 1tb or m2 max? for Software developer, most of the front-back end development and occasionally some react native for mobile, also don't know if 14 or 16

I love your video Mark! Can you please make video on whether the 24” M1 iMac is still worth buying now that the M1 pro and max are out. Should we get an M1 iMac or the new M1 Pro MacBook Pro with a monitor instead?

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm sure there'll be some new iMac content on the way at some stage ;)

@garvbatra7

2 жыл бұрын

You can now get Mac Studio instead, If you haven't bought anything till now

@ZyliceLiddell

Жыл бұрын

Mac Mini and use your iPad as a monitor maybe?

Hello there, first time viewer here. I ended up seeing this video shortly after I bought my 16 Inch MacBook Pro, so I clicked on it just to see how the different sizes compared. I always had a 13 inch MacBook Pro, so naturally I thought I would get the 14 inch MacBook Pro when that was announced. Fast forward to today on my brand new 16 inch. Honestly this was because I just wanted a change, a quite literal big change. This laptop is the biggest I've ever had, and while it is a big chungus, I think I could really get used to something like this, and I think this is the Mac to get. but my god it was expensive haha.

Iam also deciding which one to get. Regarding the screen size iam always wondering, why an external monitor is so often not considered? (At least in my perception) I mean, if iam on the way, the 14 inch is the better choice, and when i need to have monitor space, i could plug in eater both Laptops to an external monitor and i have enough space for anything. So with this combination the 14 inch seem to be better, unless i want to do anything on the Mac's Monitor itself without an external one.

One of the biggest reasons to think about the differences would be about battery length. The 16” would be better for battery length and going with the “Max” version, it won’t last on battery length is less than the “Pro” version.

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Great point!

@RunForPeace-hk1cu

2 жыл бұрын

Try running on low battery mode while on battery and I’m 100% confident the battery life will be outstanding. Change to normal usage when you do something intensive

how is the ms office experience?? Apple told me there is home and students lifetime plan for an amount ,if I install it will I get same experience as in a windows?? Cuz my academics is solely based on seminars, PowerPoint ms words etc??

I feel the 16 inch is the way to go!

Is it impossible to video edit and make music on the 14 inch? Im mostly at home and connected to a monitor. But the days im actually out visiting someone and want do edit or make music on the mac display.. will it be too small? And is it worth to upgrade to 10core/16core on the 14 inch rather than 8core/14core?

I love my 16 inch M1 pro !

I'm not sure what to get I got 16 but I find it to big chill I'm thinking to return it and get 14 but I'm really confused

Love your content Mark but I see that you've now got spammer(s) replying to some of the comments. Don't know if you can do anything about it but would be good if you could. Nice video - watching it on my 16-inch M1 Pro 16GB RAM 1TB SSD. Perfect machine for me.

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for spotting! I've removed and reported the ones I found. Unfortunately, it's a manual job at the moment!

What surprisingly stopped me from going with the 16" even though that's what I wanted was the track pad. Nobody mentions this... It's massive and uncomfortable to use.

@skepticalmechanic

2 жыл бұрын

I enjoy the bigger Track pad.. having Arthritis it’s fantastic for me!

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

...maybe those people haven't experienced the same frustraion? I can honestly say I've never thought about the 16-inch's trackpad in that way. Sorry to hear it bothers you, though!

@cassiecat7038

2 жыл бұрын

Just got one myself and it’s quite lovely!

@alkenstein

2 жыл бұрын

I find the 14" track pad a little too small - running out of space when dragging

@jennyhoneypark

2 жыл бұрын

I have quite small hands and I agree with you. I use 16 inch Intel MBP at work and trackpad is massive. Glad I went with 14 inch for personal use.

My opinion: the 16" is too large. The screen size is only relevant if you're doing work on the go. Otherwise, you'd always be connected to a large monitor, or several of them, making the difference in screen size between the 14" and 16" relatively meaningless. And if you are doing work on the go, is the slight advantage of the larger screen worth the hit to portability? Sometimes, less is more. We see the same issue with the largest iPads... they're not particularly usable.

@Gilamath.

2 жыл бұрын

Personally, I agree, especially if you want to use your laptop on the plane. However, I would argue that the 16” can actually be the superior choice if you intend *not* to travel with it. Apple does this annoying thing where it’s really quite difficult to get the os to scale properly on most normal monitors. Not a big deal for most, but if you’re staring at code all day the color-fringing can really wear on you. Spending $200 for the bigger screen might be worth it in that case That said, you’re still probably better off getting the new Mac Studio with a MacOS-friendly display if you want a computer that you won’t travel with. But if you want a mostly-desktop setup with the capacity to bring somewhere else on occasion with much more ease than a desktop, the 16” MacBook Pro is a good option

@ImpactSpace

2 жыл бұрын

I love my 16“. Its not heavy. Old and smaller Macbooks like the classic 13“ also had 2kg and it was fine for most students and people.

@loughrey101

2 жыл бұрын

That makes sense if you already have a desktop setup, but if you don't then the cost if buying that setup would cost more than upgrading to the 16 inch

@loughrey101

2 жыл бұрын

@@ImpactSpace I'm the same, my last Mac was the 13 inch 2012 Macbook Pro and the 16 inch is about the same weight so I didn't get to experience the more lighter 13 inch Macbook to be able to say that weight is an issue with the 16 inch. I guess it depends on what you've been using previously

Nice video. Isn't it true the 14" M1 Max will throttle down under heavier loads (heat management?) ?

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Charley! I have no idea, I'm afraid - not really my area. I think you'd _really_ have to push it to experience anything resembling throttling, though.

@MrFL08

2 жыл бұрын

Yep when you open 20 of the same video and paste 10 layers of 8k video, while exporting 1000 images in photoshop, funnily enough, it will get a bit warm ;)

@petegreenfield8366

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrFL08 Those videos really make my eyes roll. I really just want to know how the different models behave in realistic situations, such as video editing and audio mixing. I suspect you can’t go wrong with any of them!

@MrFL08

2 жыл бұрын

@@petegreenfield8366 Yes they do. Great click bait though. I have not owned the 14 inch Max 24 core, 16 Inch Pro and tomorrow I’m collecting 16 inch Max 32 core. Can’t see much difference with any.

I bought the 16 only for the screen ,I don't edits videos or photos , if apple sell the MacBook Air in 16 inch i will got that one

Appreciate this video, as I have to return one soon! I prefer the 16'' in terms of sound and screen, but find myself grabbing for the 14'' more often, as it's way less heavy to pick up and move around with. 16'' is better for photo editing, 14'' is better for travel.. is it insane to keep both?

@alkenstein

2 жыл бұрын

It's frustrating! I feel the same

@mariyanotmaria

2 жыл бұрын

ugh... keep me posted on which you decide! i have the 16" on the way (used it for a week but had to replace due to a screen issue), but for the brief time i used it i couldn't tell if it was just a tad too big for me! i keep coming into best buy to play with the 14" and questioning my choice. wonder if i should order both to test at home...

@mariyanotmaria

2 жыл бұрын

@@alkenstein ​ a 15" would have been so perfect.

@alkenstein

2 жыл бұрын

@@mariyanotmaria I feel you! I love how light the 14" is and for some tasks its so perfect, but for other tasks it the screen feels restrictive, whereas the 16" screen real estate is awesome, but it's heavy - if I dropped it on my foot my foot would break before the laptop... why did they do this to us?? 😅

@mariyanotmaria

2 жыл бұрын

@@alkenstein frfr... sooo torn!

I don't find the 16 inch that heavy. Maybe it's because I've been using a 13 inch Macbook Pro from mid 2012 for 10 years and that was a very heavy machine that isn't far off the 16 inch. I might have felt the weight if I had been operating with more recent Macbooks that are much lighter. I don't have great eyesight and find that small Macbooks like the 13 inch really strains my eyes, even for light office work, having a much bigger screen allows me to increase the text size better abs have an overall more comfortable work experience. I think when it comes to these 16 inch laptops KZreadrs need to consider more than just the performance aspect,some of us really struggle visually with smaller screens and having that larger screen can really much working on a computer more comfortable, especially if you don't have a home desktop setup. If I was to get around the small screen by buying monitors, mouses etc. to work on a larger screen, I'd be already be over the price difference of the 16 inch and so I think it's good value for that visual comfort I get, even if I don't need all the performance. If would be nice if Apple did the 16 inch with the 8-core binned M1 Pro or even the standard M1, but unfortunately they don't and so it's the only way to get that visual real estate. Am aspect of the difference between the 14 and 16 inch you didn't mention us the rather significant difference in battery life between the two

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Great points, well made - thanks. Us ‘KZreadrs’ do keep an eye on these comments 😉

@loughrey101

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarkEllisReviews 😅

guess I will stick on my 13 inch MacBook Air

So no mention about the lower performance of the specked up 14"? 14" will perform worse in comparison to the 16" with the same higher specs due to the size and limitations to the fans speed and ram speeds.

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

That's not my wheelhouse, mate. Requires far too much silicon peeping, benchmarking and time I don't have ;)

Was waiting for a "This video was sponsored a major sports retailer!" but no.

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

One day, Humzah, one day!

@humzahshakil5502

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarkEllisReviews Soon! :)

I bring my 16 with me to school everyday i am going for a marketing degree

U never covered a key variable- battery.

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

It is awesome on both.

I’m guessing you don’t use spreadsheets much.

@MarkEllisReviews

Жыл бұрын

Thankfully, no.

16 has a bigger battery, way better speakers and higher basic specs.....so ya, there is a difference

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Well, that told me.

@Top_Dawg360

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarkEllisReviews Better cooling too

Haven’t you done this video already?

@MarkEllisReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Nope.