137. FENDER FR-12 UPDATE: "FINALLY...LIVE PERFORMING AWESOMENESS" w/BOSS IR-200!

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Highly requested "update" on the FENDER TR-12 & the BOSS IR-200...done on a BEEGEE BENDER with SINGLE COILS...enjoy...I sure am;)

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  • @Bob1Gee
    @Bob1Gee18 күн бұрын

    Brother, you are speaking my language. Great playing by the way too 👍🏻 Super helpful video for me as I’ve been very much eying up one of these Fender FR speakers. As I am approaching 60 years of age, the thought of continuing to hump around a 55 lb tube amp when it’s no longer necessary is not a pleasant thought, not to mention as you said the maintenance and cost of tubes. I recently purchased a Tonex One pedal to try and familiarize myself with this whole world of digital guitardom, but it’s a bit of a learning curve lol 😆 But I am in agreement with you on all points.

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    17 күн бұрын

    Brother Bob...thank you for the comment and the kind words;) This FR-12/Boss IR-200 in addition to my "normal guitar pedals" I use has turned out to be the "Perfect Solution" for my "Sonic & Tonal" needs and desires. Your Tonex pedal is "taking the pedal World" by storm and there are a lot of videos out there regarding use as you are probably aware of. Keep at it my Brother and, at near 60 years of age with me not far behind (56) we both are "just getting started" my Musical Brother;) My prayers to you, your family and friends...Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @lewisgeyer1440
    @lewisgeyer1440Ай бұрын

    During this demo I never wished for more dirt. Great tone and playing all the way around. Thanks.

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Just about enough for me too Brother Lewis;) Thank you for the kind words...Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @JasonRichison
    @JasonRichisonАй бұрын

    I sure appreciate your 'real world' advice and experience about equipment, not to mention your amazing picking! I always get something good to take away from your wonderful videos. 🤠👏👏👏

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Brother Jason...thank you for these kind words;) I hope you and beautiful Darlene are doing well and all is well in the "World of Double Bending";) Let's catch up soon with Facetime chat;) My prayers to you both and your family and friends...Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @Emperorjones
    @EmperorjonesАй бұрын

    Sounds great, enjoying your double-stop touch.

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you Emperor;) My prayers to you, your family and friends...Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @ricardbennett6487
    @ricardbennett6487Ай бұрын

    I totally agree with your point of view. A loud, real clean sound is essential to me. I laugh at many youtube players who say "this is my clean sound" and it ain't. Thanks for the review!!

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching along with your comment;) My "Clean" sound...means "Crystal Clean";) My prayers to you,your family and friends...Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @user-vs6kr3cb2i
    @user-vs6kr3cb2iАй бұрын

    Great Information Dan. Thank you. All the best from Germany Rainer.

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching & your comment;) My prayers to you, your family and friends in Germany...and everywhere;) Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @mojo6778
    @mojo6778Ай бұрын

    As always, I enjoyed your playing and appreciate your honesty and informative content! Have a great week!

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching and the kind words Brother Mojo;) My prayers to you, your family and friends...Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @jabberwocky7927
    @jabberwocky7927Ай бұрын

    Great quote earlier. "at no time did I crave more dirt on your tone' This was great thank you. I have a BOSS Katana and want to move to a Fender FR12 and a Tonex.

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Jabberwocky...thank you for your kind words and for watching;) Cool name & I agree re: the quote;) I currently own 3 Katana's...the 112, the 212 and the Artist (and gave away another 112)...all wonderful amps but the "depths to reaching your final tone destination" made have a computer hooked up to the "inner workings" of the amp a necessity...something that doesn't work well in a "live" situation. Additionally...and unfortunately...ALL of my Katana's experienced a unexpected "Factory Reset" during "live" performances over the course of me trying to use them "live". This did not happen "all" the time...but when it did...in the middle of a "solo"...with jumps in tone, volume and/or whatever else...dang it...it was not a "pleasant" experience for those listening nor the Cowboy playing thru them;( I now associate these unexpected "Factory Resets" with the power issues (low to high voltage fluctuations) that have always been in place here in the Keys that only recently have I resolved by purchasing Furman Voltage Regulators to insure the voltage going to my equipment. I do think the Katanas are wonderful sources of sound...but I would now need to "test" them with my voltage regulators to "see" if this happened again but more than likely I won't due to the fact I have 3 Tonemaster amps in addition to the Tonemaster FR-12...and each one of these has been "sonically stable" with no need to be tethered to a computer...and sound incredible just by "turning knobs";) My prayers to you, your family and friends...and thank you for your comment;) Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @jabberwocky7927

    @jabberwocky7927

    Ай бұрын

    @@musicmandan1717 Thank you, Dan for your real world experiences regarding the Katana The Katana feels like a toy to me, albeit versatile. My last 2 real amps were JCM800 2203 and a Mesa Half stack. I like the way an amp feels. Does the Fender FR12 behind you feel like youre moving enough air to satisfy you in a live situation? I am really leaning towards the Tonex full pedal. To be able to play Bonamassas dumble and other famous amps is really appealing.

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    A great "guitar picker" question you have asked...and one that is not asked with frequency;) The answer...absolutely YES...which I attribute to the enclosed back design along with the fact that the 1000W speaker designed specifically & uniquely by Fender for this cabinet is "legitimate" in it's specs...and intended headroom...which is 100% reliant on your "AMP in a BOX" choice...being sure to hit the FR-12's input with a LINE LEVEL signal...not an INSTRUMENT LEVEL input...the MOST CRITICAL "Piece of the Sonic Puzzle";) I just posted a "live" video sent to me via a friends iPhone recording from last Wednesday's "Cowboy In The Courtyard" performance featuring the FR-12...the Boss IR-200...a Nobels ODR-1 & an Epiphone Goldtop "Les Paul" with yours truly playing the Allman Brother classic, "One Way Out"...when you have a moment, take a listen. It is a solid example of "what" the cabinet is capable of doing "live"...with much more headroom available if needed;) Thank you again...and if you have any more questions...please ask;) Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @jabberwocky7927

    @jabberwocky7927

    Ай бұрын

    @@musicmandan1717 Thanks Dan. I like the video, thanks for uploading it. Nice pickin' by the way. Great tone, sounds like youre moving air. Long live Dickie Betts!! Headroom is the term is was searching for. Seems like the FR has a lot of perceived headroom. My Marshall stack had loads of it. Your tone is nice. I just need the amp to vibrate my pant legs a bit while I play ;) I used to be leery of getting into modelled tones because of it sounding sterile and just another gear rabbit hole to vacuum up my money. I think I am convinced now. This is the future. Thank you very much Sir. I appreciate you corresponding with me. God bless.

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    My Musical Brother...I appreciate you spending some time with me & if I can offer any help, please let me know;) I am fortunate to have an opinion based upon much experience...which doesn't make my opinion "correct"...but an opinion that I can reflect upon "actual instances of usage" and therefore the "outcome" of those instances being a "result". I will also share that fact that this "Tone Voyage" is a life-long journey...as I can tell you already know. Pickers like us...those use to "turning knobs and getting results from something you can actually put your hands on"...have to "wrap your mind" around this "virtual world that is trying to be real"...as within these "modeled amps"...something that is not "natural" for the many of us who have actually played on many of these amps that now are "popular and desirable models". For me...the combination of the Fender Tonemaster amps and now the FR-12 cabinet along with a solid amp modeling device such as the Boss-IR 200, the Helix or the Tonex...is a "sensible world" that has the "best of both" worlds...actual "physical sources of sound" from the amps/cabinets themselves along with the "source" that sends it to the amp/cabinets that then provides a "sonic result" that someone like yourself that "knows what" they are looking for..."through experience"...can "sonically decide" if you are "tonally satifisfied". Most younger players that "demo" these devices here on KZread simply have never "played" through the actual "real amps" that these "digital models" are made to "sound like" & therefore...no 1st hand "sonic experience". As for me...I have not played on ALL the "real" amp models within the Boss IR-200, but I am EXTREMELY FAMILIAR with the one that I was hoping would "do the digital job" of sounding "real"...and finally...this Fender Amp/Cab plus Boss-IR200 has finally gotten me to the "place" where I can call the "Sonic Starting Point of Familiarity"...to my experienced ears of "what" I actually "know". And...I am satisfied...EXTREMELY SATISFIED...that I am in the "ballpark"...but knowing my satisfaction level will NEVER BE 100%... for that is the "Nature of Me"...always "wondering & searching"...so much MUSIC TO PLAY & EXPLORE...the Blessings of this Gift of a Journey;) My prayers to you, your family and friends...and please keep me updated as you journey on;) Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @GuyNarnarian
    @GuyNarnarianАй бұрын

    Sounds great Dan. I've heard great things about the Boss IR-200. I made an impulse buy the other week when I was at a local shop I wanted to support and picked up a UA Lion. Right now, I have it running in 4-cable mode in front and through the effects loop of a Mark V:25 - but I think I need to run it through studio monitors or an FR cab to hear the cab sims as they should be heard. Sounds great through the regular cabinet, and you can switch back and forth between the Lion and Mark V, giving you 9 different amp voicings to play around with. But that defeats the purpose of keeping the tube amps at home. It can definitely be used as a full platform. Can stay clean on the Super Bass mode, especially if you use the low inputs (through the app). I want to test it through a PA or something before I use it exclusively for a performance or practice with others. Doubt anything would beat that Fender FR cab, 4-6 inch speakers on studio monitors are not going to sound like a real 1x12 cabinet. They do have 4x12 FR cabs, but they are expensive and probably more than I need.

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Brother Guy...something of interest regarding the "viability" of the FR-12...I plugged my friend's Helix HX Stomp directly into the FR-12 before last Thursday's "live" show at Gilbert's as to do a "sonic comparison/sample" as we have only heard his "Helix" thru his sound source...a 15" EV powered speaker that also "doubles" as his "main" speaker for his "solo" gigs...staying "light & compact" is essential for his needs where he performs...but has never heard his "Helix" thru an actual "amp". We hooked it up to both of my "sound sources" I had with me...the Tonemaster Twin Reverb & the Tonemaster FR-12...and although they both sounded fantastic...there was undoubtedly a "favored result" thru the FR-12...extremely clean with high headroom & that "tube" cushion sound as the enclosed cabinet of the FR-12 forces every "sonic result" in a more forward projection. There was not a "wrong" choice between the Twin & the FR-12 but the clear "winner" was the FR-12...specifically designed for exactly "what" the Helix is...along with the IR-200, the UA Lion and all these amp sims. I can't speak highly enough about this cabinet and I'll be trying to "post" a "live" video taken last Wednesday from a friend's iPhone of a snippet of the Allman Brother's "One Way Out" played on my Epiphone Gold Top Les Paul coming thru the FR-12 with a drummer & bass player joining in...and for an "iPhone" recording...it will give you an "idea" of the clarity of the cabinet being "pushed" for "live" performance. My prayers to you, your family and friends.;) Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @GuyNarnarian

    @GuyNarnarian

    Ай бұрын

    @@musicmandan1717 You are THE man Dan. I actually found a solution at home at least. I can run it through the "flat" setting on my THR 30ii that I bought before my son was born. Turns out he loves loud music and my hound barks so loud that he must have gotten used to the noise in the womb, so I didn't really need it. Anyway, the key was setting the speakers using the THR to "open" instead of "focused". I have no idea why - but that seems to have worked. The preamp gain and power amp master (fake power amp knob, there is a real master output) don't add any dirt when you use them and can just turn off effects or add to taste. I can tell the speaker sims are working because in the 4 cable mode using a real amp, the first speaker sim sounded like crap. Only the JB/GB and V30 cabs sounded good other than bypassing the cab sims. But the FR-12 is probably what I will need in the end, even if this goes straight to the front of house, If I'm playing a small gig I would want to have a cabinet that is loud enough and works well. It is also way more cost effective than buying expensive studio monitors that can only be used at home. I can use the THR as an interface to record into Cubase, and that is enough for me now. Looking forward to the "One way Out" video - seeing the Allmans every Spring at the Beacon Theatre is one of the main reasons I ever picked up a guitar. Have a blessed holiday weekend with you and yours.

  • @MikeB-ki2oz
    @MikeB-ki2ozАй бұрын

    Analog! If possable

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Brother MikeB...analog is wonderful...but not for this Cowboy for "where" I play is simply too harsh and no one to continually "fix" on tube amps that require too much attention;) My prayers to you, your family and friends...Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @milankotevski1663
    @milankotevski1663Ай бұрын

    If you want to be blown away by super authentic amp tones, try Tonex.

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Brother Milan, I have heard these Tonex provide a great result. At some point, I will get the opportunity to listening and try one out...but for now...these 3 Boss IR-200 are surely providing me exactly "what" I sonically am searching for;) If you have tried one and have a "video" of this, please let me know as I would like to watch it. My prayers to you, your family and friends...Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @joepassfan
    @joepassfanАй бұрын

    Great job and much appreciated the explanation. You have sold me on the FR12 as the best solid state platform (better than the Katana, ToneMaster etc) and using it on onstage to hear yourself like a traditional amp. Do you use the tilt back legs on stage? On a completely different topic (or a request)... I think a very useful lesson for me would be a video demonstrating 2 or 3 percussive rhythms you can do on your looper to play against. I really like the simple percussive rhythm you used in this video. It adds so much.

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words JoePassFan;) If needed, I will use the legs...but 99% of the time I put the amp on a rolling plastic tool box container (bought at Home Depot several years ago) that stores gear and "doubles" as an amp riser. It is important to remember "how" a speaker is designed to "throw" sound...as "angles to the ears" are extremely important on how you "hear" the amp...and therefore greatly influences the adjustments you sonically make. Most folks put an amp on the ground...flat...and then stand with their ankles right next to the cabinet...which takes your ability to "hear" the "high end" of the amp...making the user "add" more "highs" while those who are "in front of it" (the audience) is being "pierced" by the "Sword of Treble";) Last I checked...ears are located on your head...not your ankles...and therefore...be sure to "make sure" your speaker angle is "correct to your ears" to make sonic adjustments on stage. Also...I own 3 Katanas...the 112...the 212...and the Artist...(and a fourth 112 I gave away)...and all offer hi-headroom, clean tones. The issue is simple...those amp work best when you are "attached" to a computer that allows you to get into the depths of the menus and all the offering of the amp...which simply can't be done with the "outside" controls. Regarding a "Looper Lesson"...it has been on my mind to do so...and I will very soon. Thank you for the request;) My prayers to you, your family and friends...Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @JimWalkerMusic
    @JimWalkerMusicАй бұрын

    I've been using (2) Peavey Special 130's in stereo with a Zoom G6 Multi. Super Clean and Super Loud if I need the extra headroom. I rarely turn them up passed 2.5 on the clean channel. I have less than $600 in it all. 😊

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Sounds like a wonderful combinations Brother Jim;) Thank you for sharing...any videos by chance? My prayers to you, your family and friends...Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @gordonlewis7570
    @gordonlewis7570Ай бұрын

    I enjoyed your video. Small correction though: the product you're referring to is the Fender FR-12, as you correctly stated in your other video.

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you Brother Gordon and also for watching;) My prayers to you, your family and friends...Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @jonlieberman997
    @jonlieberman997Ай бұрын

    cool

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching Brother Jon...my prayers to you, your family and friends;) Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @andyzpam5441
    @andyzpam5441Ай бұрын

    Great playing try Tonex

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words Brother Andy;) I have heard the "Tonex" is quite the "IR Sim"...will probably come across one sometime soon. For now...3 Boss IR-200 are providing me an extremely solid "performance" base for both "Live" & "Session" work...and they work extremely well with my existing Tonemaster amps incl. the Deluxe Reverb, Twin & Super Reverb in addition to the FR-12 cabinet. If you have any videos you recommend regarding the Tonex, please let me know and thank you again for the kind words. My prayers to you, your family and friends... Sincerely I am...Dan;)

  • @andyzpam5441

    @andyzpam5441

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@musicmandan1717 Hey Dan, thanks bro, try Tonex works great with Fender FR, Tonex is a journey of Amps and Cabs captures, could be overwhelming when starts but is great at the end. god bless you man

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you Brother Andy;)

  • @cwcooper3463
    @cwcooper3463Ай бұрын

    When I play loud I plug into my peavey session 400. I can kill baby chickens with it. No pedals.

  • @musicmandan1717

    @musicmandan1717

    Ай бұрын

    Brother CW...those Peaveys are very loud and clean. I have a Nashville 400...a wonderful amp except for the "Compression" circuit that can't be "shut off"...but a very "loud & clean" amp with a 15". I'd like to "hear" your setup...any videos? My prayers to you, your family and friends...Sincerely I am...Dan;)

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