Don't let the rickety construction of this lock fool you, this design is nothing short of excellent. I don't think you see the significance of those three little detents in the core next to the pin holes. You see, the T-pins must be engaging with that if you don't pick them deep enough to get past that wafer under them, so they can clear the detent. I was actually thinking about designing a system just like that but apparently I was beaten to it. Another way do do it is to have regular or perhaps spool pins, and have the little nipple on the wafer, so they trap themselves if picked too far. A mixture of both is probably one of the most secure pin-tumbler locks you could build, I think.

@zerg539

6 жыл бұрын

ManWithBeard1990 I was about to comment the same thing all you need to do is put the detents on both sides and it works perfectly and those are probably what stopped this pick right in its tracks. It would be interesting to see a manufacturer putting out lock cores with the detents pre milled so some random things pins and wafers could be dropped in for security purposes without it being known which if any pins have to be double set so to speak.

@draggonhedd

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was gonna reply with the same thing. It's a really smart design.

@flatfingertuning727

6 жыл бұрын

If I'd known where my Dremel was last weekend, I had been considering doing something similar with a Kwikset I have lying around, but with a couple of tweaks. I was going to extend the holes for pins #1 and #3 slightly into the warding, and cut those two spots in the key to "eleven". Further, I was going to swap the wafers and T-pins for high-cut positions and shape the notches to catch the former. If the core can turn far enough to hold the wafers for high-cut positions in place even while pins for low-cut positions are raised beyond the shear line, that will make picking much easier than if the low-cut pins must be locked in position before the high-cut ones can be set.

@DanBowkley

6 жыл бұрын

I was going to build basically the same thing, I saw a video a while back about a trap lock to grab the crazy ex's key and realized it'd be a great anti pick measure. Actually I think I've come up with a way to do it without a wafer though, I'm going to have to dig out my mini mill and have at it the next time I'm home.

@debug9424

6 жыл бұрын

+ManWithBeard1990 I was thinking of doing the same thing! +Flat Finger Tuning "and cut those two spots in the key to "eleven"." A #11 cut on a Kwikset? That's almost completely cut! O_O

+bosnianbill That pin stuck to the tailpiece, before it broke off, caught on the groove in the PVC pipe to keep the core from being removed and the handcuff being opened. It was held in place with superglue. I should have known that you would try to use a bump hammer and used solder on the back pin. Also, the reason that the core only turned 45 degrees is that the t-pins on pins 2,3, and 6 caught into the notches on the plug.

@torchofkck4989

6 жыл бұрын

Thor Lancaster, actually, instead of gluing or soldering... how about drilling, tapping, & running a stud into it ? just a grain of salt, on the world that is food for thought.

@bigfoot-wo3qy

6 жыл бұрын

Thor Lancaster i

@aliceinmadseason2319

6 жыл бұрын

Thor Lancaster well done. That was a helluva lock you made

@thorlancaster5641

6 жыл бұрын

The tailpiece is too thin to put a stud through, I thought of that idea while building the lock. Good idea though.

@Sool101

6 жыл бұрын

I'm not into locks but yours is very cleverly made. Annoyingly clever apparently ;) good entertainment for us, that's a little bonus.

Tim Burton, Steven King and McGyver made a lock together.

Hey bill. I don't think you get defeated by the side hole. I think you got defeated by the wafer plus little T-Pin. The tip of the tpin engages with the trap holes on the core The t-pins where in hole 2, 3 and 6. When you look at the core you have the grooves/trap holes next to those pins. If you pick to the t-pin shearline instead of the wafer shearline you will get trapped like you did.

I like it when people make their own locks like this

It was not the sidepin that made the lock stop at a 45 degree angle. It was the second, third and sixth pin in the bible that did it. When bill picked those he did not push the wafers past the shearline and the tiny points on the pins slid into the holes in the cylinder. Thats why there was no holes in the wafers for those points to hold onto. Bill just "underset" pin 2,3 and 6.

@disgruntled181

6 жыл бұрын

I would think he did pick them past the shear line, that is what exposes the pins...

@JasperJanssen

5 жыл бұрын

Turbo Encabulator a T plus wafer construction gives you two shearlines, the key will use the lower one and a picker will get the top one. Which causes the trap to spring.

The T-pins are similar to a concept by LockPicking Lawyer. The side pin was there as an obstacle--essentially a form of movable warding, hopefully first in the binding order. You don't have to pick it, but the lock will only turn when the side pin isn't being pushed by a key or a pick.

@far2ez539

5 жыл бұрын

Was waiting for someone to mention this. It was called “How to pick-proof your Kwikset” or something like that.

Great design and locking system Thor! Great to see people actually making their ideas and not just saying ..."I had the same idea and was going to make one"... And no need to listen to commenters saying what they would have done to make it better... It's your lock design, and if you're happy with it..that's all that matters.. Great Job! I see how impressed Bill was with it.. (minus the excess grease..haha)

Looks to me that the T pins would drop into the small holes adjacent to the pin bores and seize the core at 45 degrees.

@FusionDeveloper

6 жыл бұрын

How did he miss that? Just look at the core and the order of the pins, and notice that each slot cut into the core, happens to be the same chambers that had the wafers, plus, I know I have seen locks do this before and I'm pretty sure it was Bill on his channel. He must have forgot and been distracted, or wanted a lot of people to leave comments on his video, haha.

Well we really had some inventive minds working on lock's. Excellent build on that lock. You should pattern the idea. That's one secure core. Mr.Bill that was some alien technology for sure.

3:42 *CLICK!* "Very slight click." Loving the close up microphone.

@PropaneWP

6 жыл бұрын

I wonder what it would be like to attach a contact mic to the lock.

@dethadder0

6 жыл бұрын

Propane Something like a throat-mike, perhaps? That would be interesting.

Now we know your weaknesses, Bill, cleverly made t-pin traps. :D Now everyone will send those to you. :D

I liked it when you resorted to hammering it. I bet you've felt like doing that on more than this lock ;)

It's just not Bill's day. Even the tape took a swipe at him! Well done Thor! And thanks to BosnianBill. Well worth the watch.

As mentioned, the three grooves are a take on the classic "construction key" trap, but directional so that it is not a permanent trap but can be rotated back. I suspect if you picked it CCW they would do nothing.

@torchofkck4989

6 жыл бұрын

Skwisgar2322 , something to consider... if the pin didn't snap off, counterclockwise picking would be blocked by the lack of groove in the pvc pipe. (in theory.. proper function)

@Skwisgar2322

6 жыл бұрын

true.

@thorlancaster5641

6 жыл бұрын

He could easily pick the lock CCW outside the tube.

I love the use of grease to mush up the whole lock, along with thin or weak springs. I imagine that really really makes it hard to feel what's going on, and makes things frustratingly slow to move around Inside. That side detent is kind of confusing, only seems like it would serve to trap the key inside the lock, because you got it into that 45 degree false set even without picking that side pin.

I like how the gentile tapping gets more violent the less they are effective. LOL

Those little pins you didn't quite understand were master wafers. The t pins above them got lodged in the little detents on the core. It's a brilliant system! It allows a full 45 degree tilt when picked and still allows a return to standard position. That was genius!

@Daobobs

6 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you explained this. I noticed those little pins matched up with where those detents were but I didn't know how they came into play.

Looks like a fun relatively inexpensive hobby. I’ve seen so many of these I feel like I would know how to pick a standard lock. Need to pull the trigger and get some gear.

Great job Thor. Great ingenuity.

I’m a maintenance engineer. I tend to find these videos absolutely amazing. I’ve seen some stuff out there that will drive you mad. But this stuff is just cool.

I love the mic close like that. Sounds great!

Pro tip Do not leave the cameras connected to the battery charger / power source unattended, as the LI-ION batteries might get dangerously hot.

I don't think it was sent to go all the way. He probably didn't know how to sweat the pin to the end stock. The pin was to hold the lock in the pipe and when spun to the right angle would have released the lock.

Wow, I was not ready for that intro. That was loud.

Really cool and difficult design....built like a rickety child's fort.

Not much to do in Medicine Lake Montana in the Winter.

my boy thor earned the paclock 😎

Have fun putting that back together.

How do you spell sealed? I'm curious!

@davidcollis4758

6 жыл бұрын

You spelled it correct.

@manasdas8793

6 жыл бұрын

Silled

@bosnianbill

6 жыл бұрын

seeled, ceeled, seled, kmrbe,... I was just screwing around.

Repair procedure 101 if all else fails hit with the hammer

@scottsmith4204

6 жыл бұрын

If all else fails? I always thought it was start with the smallest practical hammer and work your way up.

@disgruntled181

6 жыл бұрын

No, you start with a plastic faced hammer and work your way up in material hardness.

@aliceinmadseason2319

6 жыл бұрын

Slade Darklighter most definitely. It works on fuel pumps and starters

@Shad0wBoxxer

6 жыл бұрын

lifelessdead89 the first time i heard somone tell me to smack the heck outta the tank to get the pump got the funniest look than a coffee on me when it worked...

@Namirred

4 жыл бұрын

If in doubt give it a clout, if you’re sure hit it more

I believe the 45 degrees locking is due to the T pins engaging in the three holes on the right side, not to the side pin. The side pin seems to be there mostly to prevent bumping, or impressing, since not having the hole would push the pin to the outer shell and block the lock. Also picking to the left may lead a T pin into the side pin, so it would be end of game.

@thorlancaster5641

6 жыл бұрын

The side pin has a lip on it so that it can't be pushed into the plug. T-pins simply glide over it and don't catch. Picking this lock counterclockwise is (comparatively) easy.

@flatfingertuning727

6 жыл бұрын

Am I correct in thinking the side pin was intended as an obstacle (essentially as a form of movable warding)? Did you check whether the wafers can remain set while a key or pick is pushing on the side pin? I would think its effectiveness would depend upon its ability to prevent that.

the whole lock is the locking mechanism, it slides out when it's "unlocked" the pin gave it a range of motion so it doesn't fall all the way out.. in theory

Can everyone just appreciate the UTTER GORE on his left index finger?

Mr. Bill. Other than the awkward position, are there any other considerations to keep in mind while opening an upside down lock?

Nice try on a very imaginative lock!

Looks to me like pins 2,3 and 6 have the neadle point to catch in the core on a false set, before the side pin.

Thor🔨 The God of Locks!

1:13 No Bill, that's how every state spells "Sealed". Sealad must be a DC thing...

I wonder if some of these locksmiths that come up with theses puzzle locks were reincarnated Aztecs or Egyptians! Lol! I keep waiting for a giant boulder to come into the frame

Nice home made set-up! What's the tool called to remove the detente cap?

Are magnetic traps common?Too say that u need a magnet to pick as well as normal pick

I want to know what chuck or collet people are using to hold those tiny pins when turning them. Excellent security features, BTW!

@jonmcdonald6374

Жыл бұрын

Dremel, finger tight, or 3/32" collet

if the lock was picked opposite way would the wafers wedge in the cutouts?

@tuba7084

6 жыл бұрын

Bad Juju I don’t think the cutout were big enough to trap a wafer but I see he thought of Bill not always following directions and placed traps on both sides though

@disgruntled181

6 жыл бұрын

No

@JasperJanssen

5 жыл бұрын

Bad Juju the lock as a whole had - at least theoretically - a detent that prevented it from turning except in the unlocking direction. The fact that said pin was superglued on and broke under hammerblows is, well, clearly a significant security flaw - but I don’t think anybody looking at this, including the maker, was thinking “let’s see them try physical attacks against this! It’ll stand up to everything!”.

Does anyone know where I can get a plug follower like the one Bill is using? I'm using Sparrows resin one and I'd imagine it's a matter of time before it where's down.

Unibomber type shit. I wouldn't have opened that package to be honest. lol

Thor needs to invest in a deburring tool.

Bill, time to get a fresh can of Gunk Green. ;)

Crescent wrench or bar twist the wire I'll leave the picking for Bill

With an extra load of grease..LOL Otherwise, well done Thor. Just do not put a extra load of grease in your next one.

LPL. I really enjoy watching your videos thanks Sir. How long have you been picking locks for?

it's spelled SEALED in english, not only in montana

PS--I've been thinking of preparing locks with obstacles to picking. My question is: knowing what you do of the lock's design, could you pick it?

@thorlancaster5641

6 жыл бұрын

It would be very difficult to pick even knowing that three of the pins need to be intentionally overlifted. You would not know which pins they were on, and the wafers would have a pretty good chance of falling back down once you started on the spools. If you were doing a physical attack, you could break the lock with a screwdriver, but then again, it could be made of steel.

@flatfingertuning727

6 жыл бұрын

Actually, I think a better attack would be a plug spinner, which I would expect could defeat the side pins easily unless the lock included a "centrifugal catch". I think the tricky slots would make blind picking harder if one didn't know where they were, but I was curious about is whether the side pin would pose an obstacle to setting the side pin.

@JasperJanssen

5 жыл бұрын

Flat Finger Tuning have a strong enough spring in one or more of your trap chambers - and no grease - and I think plug spinners might get caught as well.

That was really clever.

Anyone just here for the ASMR tingles?

Bill seems like a stand up guy. Putting 100 layers of tape or shrink wrap on your keys is probably getting pretty annoying for the guy. Save yourself, Bill and the viewers some time and just cover the thing up with one layer.

@thorlancaster5641

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I kind of went a little overboard on the stay-mummed:)

@disgruntled181

6 жыл бұрын

Thor Lancaster Question, how was the lock supposed to open if he HAD picked it and what was the small lighter flint looking piece taped to the back?

@thorlancaster5641

6 жыл бұрын

To open it, he had to push all 3 wafers past the shear line; in other words - "overset" pins 2, 3, and 6 (These pins would be at random locations on a production lock). The small flint looking piece was originally attached with superglue until Bill smacked on the lock with his hammer. Its purpose was to prevent the lock from coming out of the tube until it was open.

@disgruntled181

6 жыл бұрын

Thor Thanks for that. I knew how the t-pin trap worked I just can't figure out how it would have "unlocked" the cuff if picked right. Would the whole lock still slide out like Bill got it to do with his hammer?

@thorlancaster5641

6 жыл бұрын

The lock would slide out of the tube, the balls would move aside and the shackle could then be removed. You wouldn't have to slide it out all the way though.

You made me doubt the sealed spelling ! How does a Bosnian spell it ??

@disgruntled181

6 жыл бұрын

zapečaćen

I just re-watched this pick and the second time, one thing kept popping into my head....your gonna need a bigger hammer lol

@gorillaau

6 жыл бұрын

Jeremiah Kennedy Your comment should be pinned.

Good work.

Bill defeated. Wow

I could smell the grease on his hands through my phone

Haven't watched through the video fully, but I think that pin is just an anti rotation pin.

Could u tell me where u bought your vise thxs mike

@bosnianbill

6 жыл бұрын

Ebay.

Nice SeRiAL KiLler hA NdwriTiNg Cool lock too !!!

Seems like he made it to where no matter who tried that it wouldn't be pickable. Idk. I wouldn't have called it a fair loss.

@JasperJanssen

5 жыл бұрын

Uh... challenge locks are a competition between lockmaker and pickers, not between various pickers. It’s certainly possible to pick it, if you know which pins need to be set to the second shearline. Which means that it’s also *possible* by sheer trial and error once you know which techniques are being used. And yes, if you don’t know what you’re doing, you’re pretty unlikely to get it open.

Man if I saw that thing in the mail there isn't a chance in hell I'd touch it...

I'm still confused about the side pin and extra holes in the core.

@disgruntled181

6 жыл бұрын

The Lock Picking Lebowski The side pin seats onto the hole in the key when inserted. This pushes out the pin just enough to clear its sheer line between core and bible. As for the three gouges, if you look at 16:46 you can see a wafer that fell on it's side and a t-pin (one of 3 like this), if you pick the wrong sheer line between the wafer and t-pin the core will turn 45 degrees until one of the points digs into one of the gouges in the core. I think Bill accidentally picked the side pin and got caught in 1 or all 3 t-pin traps on every attempt.

@debug9424

6 жыл бұрын

The side-pin is only a key control pin.

Well that's what I'd call a grease job.

I have no idea how you even pick locks like that, it is the opposite to how I was taught.

What microphone are you using?

@bosnianbill

6 жыл бұрын

A blue yeti pro.

@Peasant_of_Pontus

6 жыл бұрын

bosnianbill Thanks for a quick response.

I think they spell "SEALED" the same way all over the country.

@JasperJanssen

5 жыл бұрын

Both in the parts of the country called USA and those called Canada.

Didn't want that key to escape did he?

Still a better built lock than Master Lock.

Axle grease? And I whine about Dubbya D like a frustrated child. Nasty tho.

sticky, sticky, sticky...

A totally evil little lock that did a snowjob on you with its construction hiding some interesting features. Mr Lancaster should be very pleased with himself.

That is how you spell sealed.....

Loki Lock

If at first you don't succeed grab a hammer and bang on it till it opens

truly xxxxxxxxxxxxerlent I my self would of never suspected side pins or things I think u done very well bill by the way its me who u said do you need a hug I do now lol thanks stiglocks..r

@brickviking667

6 жыл бұрын

I had the idea of a side pin (or more - two at odd angles) before I'd seen it here. The problem would be how to implement it, as I've never done anything with locks I felt it was best left to the professionals and good amateurs.

It makes me laugh realizing BosnianBill refers to pointy things as a "tit" and he seems to say it every 5 or 6 vids

I'm not a lock picker but this just seems pointless to me. It almost seems similar to me giving you the challenge of picking the lock on my front door to gain access but there's a brick wall behind the door. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm okay with that.

Cool intro

hahahhaha

A proTex and a... wut...?

See AL led sealed

isn't that how you spell sealed ?

Why do I feel like meth was involved in the construction of this thing? Melted PVC pipe body, perhaps? Maybe the 4 layers of materials to wrap the key? Or maybe it was all the duct tape... But hey, function over form!

Vs spelling it how?

I'm ashamed to be a montanan today.

aint sealed spelled the same everywhere ? or was that a bosnian joke?

Just started lock picking for the first time this week. I am so bored with master locks already its not even funny.

I'm not a fan of these kinds of locks. I mean, I get the appeal... but it's basically just a "puzzle", like a rubik's cube, at this low level of quality. Rubik's cubes are fun and interesting... but it's not a lock.

hey, I have a monster lock for you coming soon, (you will hate it)

Couldn’t you have used a spinner?

Everyone please stop sending locks that look like b0mbs. Have to wonder if bb thought this was a pipe b0mb when he opened it

@thorlancaster5641

6 жыл бұрын

That's why I added the shackle, without it it'd look even more like a b0mb. With the shackle holes, Bill can see inside and see a piece of wood and 2 ball bearings, no C4 here.

@MichaelMantion

6 жыл бұрын

Well if you did make this Props to you.. :D

Why did you move your mic bill? Bring it closer and rap away dude

100th view

The idea of the lock is good but the execution is bad

Bill isn't very "l33t", I guess.

@disgruntled181

6 жыл бұрын

I think L33t Speak went the ways of the desktop calculator.