12 Conlanging Tips

A video no one asked for, but which I made anyway.
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Language Creation Society's website = conlang.org/
Language Creation Society's youtube = / fiatlingua
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ZBB forum = www.verduria.org/
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Пікірлер: 196

  • @i_teleported_bread7404
    @i_teleported_bread74043 жыл бұрын

    Day 74 of building my conlang's lexicon: I am running out of space on my goldfish.

  • @dracodistortion9447

    @dracodistortion9447

    8 ай бұрын

    no replies after 2 years and 371 likes? let me change that

  • @Breuhh

    @Breuhh

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@dracodistortion9447why

  • @lukekelly7286

    @lukekelly7286

    6 ай бұрын

    only 74 days in?

  • @RedSky92963

    @RedSky92963

    5 ай бұрын

    Bro is gonna crash his pc and start over

  • @abarette_

    @abarette_

    4 ай бұрын

    dear god

  • @erslippers3805
    @erslippers38053 жыл бұрын

    "So unthreatening I've written it in comic sans" >Laughs in Undertale

  • @user-ze7sj4qy6q
    @user-ze7sj4qy6q3 жыл бұрын

    i like that this video has just like fire noises in the back. it would feel empty without some noise, but music can be distracting in vids like this. that's a really creative but sick strategy to avoid both of those

  • @metsfan1873

    @metsfan1873

    2 жыл бұрын

    I find it annoying and distracting. And I thought it was just clicking. But understood as fire noises don't make them any less so.

  • @paper2222

    @paper2222

    Жыл бұрын

    @@metsfan1873 everyone enjoys different things

  • @zerbgames1478

    @zerbgames1478

    10 ай бұрын

    sadly agree@@metsfan1873

  • @zkingsalsa
    @zkingsalsa3 жыл бұрын

    "write a book" "unite humanity" "summon eldritch horrors"

  • @lukekelly7286

    @lukekelly7286

    2 ай бұрын

    "whatever it may be"

  • @Tranxhead
    @Tranxhead3 жыл бұрын

    9 is the most underrated wisdom in conlanging. I would also add as a caveat to engaging with other conlangers, shut out the "naturalists" who come at you demanding first principles explanations for all the quirky bits of your lang or judge a lang only by how natural they perceive it to be. One: you can find an ANADEW. Two: most weirdness in language can only be hypothetically explained and only so much. Three: it is your art.

  • @jordanrodrigues8265

    @jordanrodrigues8265

    3 жыл бұрын

    Even as a fan of naturalism I agree. Ultimately this is art-craft and what makes you happy is cool. What manages to make others happy is even cooler. I like how DJP talks about naturalism: he likes it personally, and he thinks it's a useful means to other ends, just like how art school will tell you to study nature and realistic styles of drawing it. So that's the angle from which I try to approach conlangs. "X is weird vs natlangs; I think / don't think it works if your goal is Y." If someone is using appeals to nature (or linguistic theory) as a tool for proving how much smarter they are, they really need to take a time out.

  • @deejayaech4519

    @deejayaech4519

    11 ай бұрын

    Fourth:Just because a feature isnt attested in a known natlang doesnt mean its impossible. And in the conlangs universe what is a rare feature in our universe could be common their. Like their version of euroversals.

  • @johnterpack3940
    @johnterpack39402 жыл бұрын

    Also, don't forget to avoid every sound present in English so you don't get accused of being "too English-y".

  • @ThePoshWeirdo

    @ThePoshWeirdo

    7 ай бұрын

    FR

  • @Brennende_Rose

    @Brennende_Rose

    7 ай бұрын

    Well, I mostly use the most unique sounds of all languages I fluently know, that being German, French and English. In German you have the more or less unusual sound for English speakers R and Ch. While in French you have the nasales, like in en, and in English the English R, or th :)), so I just take things out of somewhat related, but still distinctive languages

  • @VeryCoolPhoenix

    @VeryCoolPhoenix

    3 ай бұрын

    I have a half p and half L sound in my conlang but I don’t know how to represent how to pronounce it on KZread

  • @VeryCoolPhoenix

    @VeryCoolPhoenix

    3 ай бұрын

    You pronounce it by putting your upper part of the tongue against your lips

  • @bowlseriv

    @bowlseriv

    3 ай бұрын

    so a labiodental plosive of sorts@@VeryCoolPhoenix ?

  • @ppenmudera4687
    @ppenmudera46873 жыл бұрын

    Finally someone who's adventurous! A lot of conlangers keep telling me that I should 'follow the rules', but I think it's mutch more interesting play with your point 8. I've made a conlang family where most voices are marked using noun cases, and this gave rise to really interesting features, like the genitive marking causative or a fully ergative language using a hybrid passive voice. It probably doesn't make sense in a natlang, but in my languages, it does.

  • @deepsolar169

    @deepsolar169

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like the idea of, "Just because it hasn't happened, doesn't mean it won't happen."

  • @Theo-oh3jk

    @Theo-oh3jk

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@deepsolar169 Same. If you find something unusual, even unheard of, it doesn't mean it's bad. It may be a red flag that you've misunderstood, so just check for that. But you can still use that feature, as long as you have a good reason/explanation for why it exists in your language. Trust me, languages do some pretty strange things.

  • @lipamanka
    @lipamanka3 жыл бұрын

    this is a high quality video. I enjoyed it.

  • @ichbinben.
    @ichbinben.3 жыл бұрын

    Dammit, I clicked like the very moment that you said "Don't like". Hope you're not angry...

  • @disfordumboo4411
    @disfordumboo44113 жыл бұрын

    taking a break from political youtube to watch linguistics youtube and i got another person telling me to read theory...

  • @luckyumbrella4334

    @luckyumbrella4334

    3 жыл бұрын

    Are you a communist?

  • @joannasthings

    @joannasthings

    3 жыл бұрын

    why are so many conlangers leftists?

  • @anonymous-fv4ec

    @anonymous-fv4ec

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joannasthings probably not, leftists are just more prevanlent online. - extreme left

  • @napabilirim

    @napabilirim

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joannasthings im a conlanger. im not leftist. im not rightist. i just hate politics and everyone involved with it.

  • @joannasthings

    @joannasthings

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@napabilirim ah. so you’re apolitical.

  • @deepsolar169
    @deepsolar1693 жыл бұрын

    For 10, I'm working on a project now where I recently figured out that identical long vowels can be next to each other, so words like [a.e:'e:] can exist. And I even stated clearly that those vowels *must* be pronounced separately, just like if they were short vowels next to each other (which happens a lot as well). I absolutely love the phonaesthetics that those sequences have and I love that it was an accident as well.

  • @abarette_

    @abarette_

    4 ай бұрын

    I WILL pronounce this /aje:/ and there is NOTHING you can do about it

  • @Alice-gr1kb
    @Alice-gr1kb3 жыл бұрын

    You mentioning accidents reminds me of the 2 separate times i accidentally made Languages ergative. The first was Chnjarah, where i collapsed a classifier system down into animate and inanimate, and so each case took that marking. The vast majority however merged their animate and inanimate form, except i believe the core role markers, and so i leaned into it and made a distinct NOM/ERG split. It was very fun. Second time was Wo:gʷədʷəħ, where the oldest tense system we planned worked in a way that you needed to make tense into a relative clause and make some kind of context in the perfective for the main clause it was a part of, and it happened that the relative clause was marked on the noun, and ended up looking very ergative. We dismantled that because one of our goals was a nominative language, as most other Ije langs were ergative and we wanted to change it up

  • @masicbemester

    @masicbemester

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's the happiest little accident that I've heard of

  • @tripwire202
    @tripwire2023 жыл бұрын

    I'm having so much fun messing around with conlagging even though I have no idea what I'm doing :D Thanks for the awesome video! Also: Ichunama means I am swimming in my current conlag.

  • @kori228
    @kori2283 жыл бұрын

    I love playing with the phonology, but I always get bored doing syntax/grammar. Still haven't finished a single conlang.

  • @Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice
    @Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice3 жыл бұрын

    The ambient noise was an excellent choice. I think I knew all this stuff but it feels good to validate and remember.

  • @robdoghd
    @robdoghd3 жыл бұрын

    this should be required viewing for anyone wanting to start a conlang, keep up the PHENOMENAL work my guy!! :) edit: the cat icon when u said lasagna absolutely sent me lmao

  • @Theo-oh3jk

    @Theo-oh3jk

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some strawberry cat is delicious!

  • @Zooiest

    @Zooiest

    Жыл бұрын

    More like phonemonal

  • @mohammadazad8350

    @mohammadazad8350

    2 ай бұрын

    A Garfield reference?

  • @Dr._Vita
    @Dr._Vita3 жыл бұрын

    The reverse Psychology at the end... I'm so glad I joined this community

  • @Turachkh
    @Turachkh3 жыл бұрын

    I can't conlaŋ, because I set too hiɡh standards for myself. I Usually ɡet lost early on because I set out to do somethiŋ, which I can't, and when I try somethiŋ simpler, I don't like it. Is there any solutionʔ

  • @Thomas10962

    @Thomas10962

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is a vague question. I suppose you are struggling with the struggle all artists face, that being that you are unable to completely and truly express their ideas with the means you have. I have a good hunch that you not a master linguistics professor, and so therefore i believe that a way you can fix this is by learning more, reading papers on certain linguistic aspects and build on your knowledge. That is the only way one can remedy this problem in my opinion. To paint better, an artist must paint more and practise their craft. To compose music better, a composer must learn the theory behind music, and compose music as well. So the advice i would offer you would be that you need to both set out and learn more, and also learn to be dissatisfied with your creations for a while. You will never get it the first try. I mean, I've barely started my conlang purely because I've not the linguistics knowledge to pull of what I want to pull of yet. I'm still building the foundations.

  • @Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice

    @Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice

    3 жыл бұрын

    Make something bad on purpose, that is funny to you. That way you can't fail, but you get good practice in. I'm a perfectionist so I do this occasionally to loosen up. When I was afraid to play music, I joined a noise band. When I was afraid to write, I made parody crossover fanfiction. When I was intimidated by conlanging, I made Bubba, which is a clong designed after English nonsense words. After making sentences like "tibby gooble hatty bobble", making a more serious clong seems way easier. And nowadays, I am hippie-like in my freedom of expression and creation. So my advice is good. Be bad on purpose, have fun. It's a playground, not a medical procedure. Loosen up so you can actually get the groundwork and mindset.

  • @Turachkh

    @Turachkh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice Thanks. But I may have found a method, that allow me to make natlangs without it being too heavy. I am at the moment try to use the method.

  • @Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice

    @Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Turachkh Okay, whatever works for you is the best method :)

  • @felipeguimaraesvasconcelos3772

    @felipeguimaraesvasconcelos3772

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Turachkh, I'm struggliŋ with the same thiŋ, would you be williŋ to share that method?

  • @v4nadium
    @v4nadium3 жыл бұрын

    8:21 I would *love* to play with this program of yours, for I sometimes lack imagimation and intelligence (< inter- ligentia, tying things together) in this area.

  • @Lichenthefictioneer

    @Lichenthefictioneer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice etymology. The 'program' isn't too complicated, and infinitely customisable. 4x columns, and then 4x cells somewhere for the output. Column 1 contains the 'governance' terms. Column 2 contains " =RAND() ", and is the same number of cells as Column 1. Column 3 contains the 'feature' terms. And column 4 contains " =RAND() " as well, and likewise is the same number of cells as Column 3. But Column 1 and Column 3 do not need to be the same number of cells. For the output, Cell 1 has " What if " inside it. Cell 2 is probs best explained with an example. My Cell 2 contains " =INDEX($A$14:$A$27,RANK(B14,$B$14:$B$27)) ", where cells A14-A27 is Column 1, B14-B27 is Column 2, and B14 is the top cell of Column 2. Cell 3 has " was/were governed by " inside it. Cell 4 is like Cell 2, but the ranges are for Column 3 and Column 4. By clicking into any blank cell outside the arrangement and putting in a number, the whole system should rejig and the 'output cells' spit out a sentence like " What if. valence operations. was/were governed by. reduplication. " I hope this helps!

  • @victorstroganov8135

    @victorstroganov8135

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lichen Is there any list for different features and governances? Thanks

  • @Lichenthefictioneer

    @Lichenthefictioneer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@victorstroganov8135 No, I just thought up a list myself. It is as follows, but is by no means exhaustive. Governance: definiteness/ salience, tense, noun role, mood, valence operations, noun role-vb agreement, noun class - vb agreement, number, aspect, volition, evidentiality, animacy, diminutive/ augmentative, clusivity. Features: word order, noun(phrase) affix/case, adposition/ particle/ article, verb affix/declension, auxiliary, analytical adjunct, (separate) lexical determination, vowel mutation, consonant mutation, vowel harmony, consonant harmony, nothing, an inherent quality, reduplication, serialisation, noun-incorporation. If you think of any others, by all means let me know!

  • @junolee8826
    @junolee88263 жыл бұрын

    ooh i love the distinction between features and governance!! it's really interesting and something i've never thought of before, thank you!!

  • @gwiazdawilk5416
    @gwiazdawilk54163 жыл бұрын

    These are some really helpful tips for Me to refer back to. I started on a Draconic Type conlang for a Story I made a few years ago and have only recently started making the minor changes that would fit My goals. What I plan on doing is actually structuring it in a way that has a source form, then splits depending on where the speakers are in the Story's world, just like a Natlang in the real world. I've occasionally checked back on conlang related stuff, which helps refresh My thinking process. This give Me the idea of applying a Logographic format as a way of better representing My conlang. I decided it would be a good idea to focus on it more, so I can get more of the phonetic structure built how I like, while also making sure it's easy to learn, as well as understandable. I'm still going between if I want it to be simple, or mildly challenging. The Languages I want to reference from are; German, Spanish, French, and maybe a little bit of Italian, Japanese, Korean, some Russian, and Arabic with Hebrew. Always fun just to explore other Languages to see how and why they ended up the way they are now. Definitely important to not only get an idea of the Language's Grammar, but also how it sounds. Great video! :D

  • @danielcowan87
    @danielcowan873 жыл бұрын

    I would reccomend learning gaeilge (irish) it's a very different language and unique and is slept on a lot. I speak it almost fluently and is just a cool language

  • @Lichenthefictioneer

    @Lichenthefictioneer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tá ar ndóigh! Ní leor teanga amháin riamh

  • @danielcowan87

    @danielcowan87

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Lichenthefictioneer Is ea is fearr

  • @samneibauer4241
    @samneibauer42413 жыл бұрын

    Could you make a video about organizing a lexicon? Maybe you could show us one of your conlangs' lexicon and explain how to categorize certain things like phonetic transcriptions of the words and the history of the sound changes for the conlang. Just an idea.

  • @tripwire202
    @tripwire2023 жыл бұрын

    "And yes, not just Wikipedia pages." Don't @ me!

  • @barditheweird6062
    @barditheweird60623 жыл бұрын

    This is the best place the algorithm took me to! Such an inspiring video for someone not in the community)

  • @LajoieNYC
    @LajoieNYC3 жыл бұрын

    This is great! Thanks for these videos

  • @helsyreason5274
    @helsyreason52743 жыл бұрын

    what a good video ^-^ really helpful when stuck!! i restarted and overhauled my language 8 times... if i knew all of this 3 years ago id have spared myself a lot of trouble haha

  • @coreblaster6809
    @coreblaster68093 жыл бұрын

    Really glad this was recommended to me, tis a very quality video

  • @dracodistortion9447
    @dracodistortion94478 ай бұрын

    been evolving a conlang for the past 6 or 7 years. started when i tried to learn German, Russian and Spanish all at once when i was 14. Ended up mixing them all and it snowballed from there. The evolutions happen based on small things i think would improve communication between two hypothetical native speakers of my conlang. for example: the Old word for "strength" was "Rëijdzhijgaä" and that, over 6 or 7 years, is now "Rëijž". The "-igaä" ending is dropped and "dzh" is condensed to "ž". The writing of the word shortened drastically, thus saving time and space when writing, and it's vocally now 1 syllable rather than 3. Another more recent example is the condensing of "aä, uü, oö" to "ă, ū, ō", which may not seem like much but shortens texts drastically. It helps to create a conworld for your conlang and a confolk who speak it. Create their landscape, geology, political structures, mythology, food, etc. and then make them a language. this gives a great base for what will be important to the speakers and therefore a great base for creating root words and structure. for example, in my conlang, verbs are conjugated based on three temporal tenses: past, current, future. Nouns have no conjugation and gender doesn't factor. This is because the confolk who speak it revere a Time goddess as the highest and so prioritize time when talking about anything whatsoever.

  • @ashenen2278
    @ashenen22783 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the inspiring video^^

  • @lilalampenschirm3203
    @lilalampenschirm32033 жыл бұрын

    This really is a brilliant video that makes very important points about the process of conlanging. Thank you for making it. Also, when talking about your program that pairs a feature and a type of governance, you actually reminded me of an idea I once had that I just never considered to be "naturalistic enough" to use in a conlang, so I scrapped it and forgot about it (the one where you have particles to mark number, and, in my idea, also person). So thank you for encouraging me (and probably others) to not stress about implementing features that work exactly the way they do in a natlang, and to have more faith in one's ideas. Edit regarding the idea: Because what I described are just pronouns, I wanted to elaborate a bit. My idea was fusing (or agglutinating, if you will) these pronouns (or particles) into forms that incorporate the subject and the direct object (if the alignment is NOM-ACC) of the sentence. So no person (and possibly number) marking on anything than those pronoun fusions. They could be mandatory in any sentence that has a subject and a direct object and would probably require a strict word order (if not combined with an extensive gender/noun class system that also gets reflected in the pronoun fusions).

  • @meltingmug
    @meltingmug23 күн бұрын

    … This feels No Boilerplate inspired, but that might just be the accent, lol. Very professional, and yet so very silly.

  • @Sprecherfuchs
    @Sprecherfuchs3 жыл бұрын

    Oh hey I didn't know you did videos. Great advice. Liked and subscribed just to spite you

  • @sleepybraincells
    @sleepybraincells10 ай бұрын

    This video has so many helpful tips

  • @tripwire202
    @tripwire2023 жыл бұрын

    "you can tell it's scary because of the font." Pfft! This made me laugh :D

  • @henrykkeszenowicz4664
    @henrykkeszenowicz46642 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for great advices! I'm a bit of a lazy conlang maker myself, and although my language is a mess(I know just a couple things about Slavic, Latin, Germanic, Georgian and Iranian languages, and am too lazy and busy to seriously get into a lot of things), I'm hopefully gonna improve something now. Speaking of phonotactics and inventories, why not combine them, so that the synonymous words would sound similarly yet be different? I found this useful because once you write enough of your language, it becomes insanely hard to study.

  • @MatthewMcVeagh
    @MatthewMcVeagh3 жыл бұрын

    Your reverse psychology worked on me, although I would have subscribed anyway. This video is about ten times better than others attempting the same thing by the way.

  • @ulysseyang9733
    @ulysseyang97333 ай бұрын

    When I first saw translate, the first thought that comes to my mind was bee movie but that's kinda too overwhelming for a not-totally-fleshed-out-language.

  • @jakemalloy
    @jakemalloy3 жыл бұрын

    Nice work. Very enjoyable.

  • @pikapuffin368
    @pikapuffin368 Жыл бұрын

    I misread the instructions, have liked, have remained subscribed, I hope this is of no inconvenience

  • @jankima8646
    @jankima86463 жыл бұрын

    Further point regarding Point 2 : if you want to make a conlang with noun incorporation, go dabble in a natlang that uses it, for example. Learn a language that helps you do what you want to do. Also learn toki pona (see kzread.info/dash/bejne/hpmeycSDqsSue5M.html for why). But if you want to create an engilang, for example, then go dabble in another engilang. Do stuff that helps you.

  • @efenty6235
    @efenty62353 жыл бұрын

    very cozy background sounds

  • @bustavonnutz
    @bustavonnutz10 ай бұрын

    Tip 2 is excellent, getting academically proficient in German & English really did wonders for helping me play with language while worldbuilding. Getting your mind around unconventional or complex grammar with exceptions, inflection, particles, etc compared to your native language is probably the most fundamental tool you can have. After all, how good will you be at creating a constructed language if you've never even tried learning a foreign language yourself?

  • @DTux5249
    @DTux52492 жыл бұрын

    ngl, the Schwebeablaut bit really helped me understand PIE better lol

  • @alanp741
    @alanp7413 жыл бұрын

    Lichen: Don't like and don't subscribe Me: *does the exact opposite*

  • @marcelovieiracruz2181
    @marcelovieiracruz21818 күн бұрын

    Are there any online communities or apps for conlangs? One where I could share it, teach it and practice it?

  • @AJCricketstar
    @AJCricketstar3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video💕 I am working on my conlang (Sonushok) Des vidyo'isi grehet. Shekur doro des vidyo. Stayifes'era oper (The video is great. Thanks for the video, Keep it up)

  • @aidanjohnwalsh2129
    @aidanjohnwalsh2129Ай бұрын

    I have ambitions to create a language by reconciling astrological principles with parts of speech. I have a dictionary of 420 root words to work with so far, but I have yet to wrap my peanut around planetary interactions and thus the precise grammar. Eventually, it will be spoken by a fictional religious order in the fantasy novel I have ambitions to write, too.

  • @maxreenoch1661
    @maxreenoch16613 жыл бұрын

    *says lasagne* *shows a picture of a cat*

  • @Theo-oh3jk
    @Theo-oh3jk3 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. I find myself getting lost in phonology and phonotactics. I haven't spent much time on grammar or even creating words. In fairness to myself, my language is deceptively complex phonetically, and I'm evolving it over the course of 3000 years. I also have little time to spend on it. I am worried that it "sounds Chinese" even though it doesn't have the same phonetic inventory. It is tonal and prefers monosyllables. And, when I get around to the writing, it will have phonetosemantic script.

  • @viracocha6093
    @viracocha60933 жыл бұрын

    2:26 my picks for the non-IE languages to recommend would be the uto-aztecan, bantu, and quechuan languages

  • @critique6657
    @critique66572 жыл бұрын

    I can definitely confirm point 2. You learn many interesting features that make a language more expressive and you see what is good/bad/illogical in your native language, that you'd better not put into your conlang. I found an interesting link between language and culture/politics when learning Russian. In Russian you say "I have an apple" like this: "у меня есть яблоко" [U menya yest yabloko]. This literally means "At me is/(exists) an apple" This is because the communists have been against private property and injected the idea that it is morally reprehensible to use the verb "have" into the Zeitgeist of the early 20th century Russian. In a collectivist country everything is collective property. The apple is a collective good, it belongs to the collective and that's why you as an individual cannot have it, but if you hold an apple in your hands, the apple is at you. An individualist culture uses the verb "have" even to form the perfect tense, to accentuate the self-ownership of the individuals own actions.

  • @ptero

    @ptero

    4 ай бұрын

    It's wrong to think that language features should be fundamentally linked to politics and history of culture. Do better research on history of russian language. Bolsheviks weren't against using the word "иметь" in first-person verbs, russian simply has another way to say the same stuff, and it is simply considered more elegant and doesn't have a double meaning -And if instead of saying "У меня есть дочь" you will try to say "Я имею дочь", it can be understood to as "I am fucking my daughter". not kidding-

  • @abarette_

    @abarette_

    4 ай бұрын

    I don't into Russian yet, but is there any way to shorten this? because "U menya yest yabloko" sure is long

  • @penfelyn
    @penfelyn3 жыл бұрын

    I base my semantic shifts on PIE's but I use Chinese to understand how to create hieroglyphs

  • @notoriouswhitemoth
    @notoriouswhitemoth2 жыл бұрын

    ...Goaled fish

  • @shi_no_kurai_kage
    @shi_no_kurai_kage3 ай бұрын

    Me VS jargon: WHAT DO THEY MEAN???

  • @martindouge1947
    @martindouge1947 Жыл бұрын

    I'd love to get my hands on your Excel you mentioned in Point 8. Do you have a file, or at least, a list of both Governances and Features ?

  • @Lichenthefictioneer

    @Lichenthefictioneer

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm copying this reply from an older comment asking the same thing :) [The list] is as follows, but is by no means exhaustive. Governance: definiteness/ salience, tense, noun role, mood, valence operations, noun role-vb agreement, noun class - vb agreement, number, aspect, volition, evidentiality, animacy, diminutive/ augmentative, clusivity. Features: word order, noun(phrase) affix/case, adposition/ particle/ article, verb affix/declension, auxiliary, analytical adjunct, (separate) lexical determination, vowel mutation, consonant mutation, vowel harmony, consonant harmony, nothing, an inherent quality, reduplication, serialisation, noun-incorporation. If you think of any others, by all means let me know!

  • @martindouge1947

    @martindouge1947

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lichenthefictioneer Thank you very much for having taken that time ! And thanks to the almighty Algorithm for having pointed me to you, I shall thus indulge in your channel.

  • @SophieEevee
    @SophieEevee5 ай бұрын

    "Get intimate with a natlang or two" Okay thanks for the tip, learning my 4th one (I know Norwegian and French) Not that I really use my knowledge of those languages for my conlang, because I want it to look like it's not a human Lang

  • @MURDERPILLOW.

    @MURDERPILLOW.

    2 ай бұрын

    Im such a dumbass

  • @VeryCoolPhoenix

    @VeryCoolPhoenix

    2 ай бұрын

    “Da🔲chuvv’psh🔲lpalpa🔲schokh🔲vvall ☄️ “=does this language sound human The language is Paraguenese

  • @FandomChronicle
    @FandomChronicle2 жыл бұрын

    When being a worldbuilder makes you a better, more interesting human realistically

  • @golovkaanna8757
    @golovkaanna87578 ай бұрын

    Why do i need to distinct phonemes and surface realisation?

  • @liammurray2318
    @liammurray23183 жыл бұрын

    FYI, the example at 5:16, the sentence contains "annahu bidūni dhi'nin" ("that he [who is] without sin"-note that "sin" is "dhinb", not "dhi'n") but the gloss doesn't include it: "anna-hu bi-dūn-i dhinb-i-n" (COMP-3SG COM-lack-GEN sin-GEN-NDEF).

  • @Lichenthefictioneer

    @Lichenthefictioneer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good catch. I thought I'd removed that bit!

  • @user-kg5ux7iu1b
    @user-kg5ux7iu1b2 жыл бұрын

    Very useful, I’m now making a dictionary for my conlang neogypt

  • @jindefn

    @jindefn

    Жыл бұрын

    How do you build up your dictionaries? What groups do you divide words into? I have tried making a lot but I just find that they get too long and it takes long time to find the right group of words, do you have any tips on how to make a good one?

  • @user-kg5ux7iu1b

    @user-kg5ux7iu1b

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jindefn I paused this project, I’m busy doing other things rn

  • @irok1
    @irok13 жыл бұрын

    Is this light theme jan Misali?

  • @jimeatscorn6628
    @jimeatscorn6628 Жыл бұрын

    Sai shey galimana! (This is very helpful!)

  • @andyhunjan
    @andyhunjan3 жыл бұрын

    You act as though comic sans is less terrifying

  • @SolWolf1
    @SolWolf12 жыл бұрын

    I'm learning Spanish and it's inspiring me to use less english-like stuff. And add a confusing as hell noun class system...

  • @terrariaman2507
    @terrariaman250711 ай бұрын

    This is good.

  • @yasutakou5928
    @yasutakou59282 жыл бұрын

    8:01 My time marker

  • @DragonRazor9283
    @DragonRazor92833 жыл бұрын

    I lost my conlang notebook that I was working on ;( luckily I wasn't too far into it

  • @sphengosine
    @sphengosine Жыл бұрын

    Post the excel program please!!!

  • @ninosawbrzostowiecki1892
    @ninosawbrzostowiecki18923 жыл бұрын

    Zdrakha! Ersxa nrasu dokori :)

  • @shannonparkhill5557
    @shannonparkhill55573 жыл бұрын

    I'm having trouble finding summary info about the (unusual to me aspects of) grammar of other languages, aside from media designed to actually teach me the entire language.

  • @Lichenthefictioneer

    @Lichenthefictioneer

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's probably best to try and fine grammars of the language that have been written by linguisticians who are only attempting to describe what's there, as opposed to resources trying to teach you the language. Then, look in the index to see which section you'd like to read about (as these sorts of grammars tend to be very neatly organised). I hope this helps! :)

  • @shannonparkhill5557

    @shannonparkhill5557

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Lichenthefictioneer Thanks, yeah I know that's what I need I just have trouble finding it.

  • @Lichenthefictioneer

    @Lichenthefictioneer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shannonparkhill5557 Might be worthwhile joining the r/conlangs discord server, and then ask "Does anyone have a PDF of a grammar of Mohawk?" or whatever language you're looking for, as someone usually does!

  • @shannonparkhill5557

    @shannonparkhill5557

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Lichenthefictioneer cheers mate!! will do

  • @hya2in8
    @hya2in82 жыл бұрын

    really weird how in the arabic sentence first is in the accusative & stone in the genitive as though first is a thing & it's of the stone variety

  • @ashenen2278
    @ashenen22783 жыл бұрын

    6:04 Sorry, I didn't get it. What can I find online?😅

  • @Lichenthefictioneer

    @Lichenthefictioneer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, the audio there is a bit rushed :P It's the Leipzig Glossing rules. The rules: www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/resources/glossing-rules.php The abbreviations: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_glossing_abbreviations

  • @ashenen2278

    @ashenen2278

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Lichenthefictioneer thank a lot!

  • @feanorofsunspear2320
    @feanorofsunspear23203 жыл бұрын

    schwebeablaut _and_ metathesis

  • @rosiefay7283
    @rosiefay7283 Жыл бұрын

    1:36 You ignore the fact that some of us don't have the luck to have the ability to do this. You might just as well tell us to run a marathon in 3 hours, or get a PhD.

  • @guisampaio2008
    @guisampaio20083 жыл бұрын

    Grand geniues could know each other because they were geniuses a priori, or perhaps they got the spotlight because they made connections of genius, not because of merit.

  • @TheBigGuyBillyBob
    @TheBigGuyBillyBob8 ай бұрын

    In my conlang, "call me Ishmael" would be the exact same as "you call me Ishmael."

  • @abarette_

    @abarette_

    4 ай бұрын

    the same as "You call me Ishmael." (Indicative), or the same as "You, call me Ishmael." (Imperative) ?

  • @TheBigGuyBillyBob

    @TheBigGuyBillyBob

    4 ай бұрын

    @@abarette_ Indicative.

  • @ZuluZizo

    @ZuluZizo

    23 күн бұрын

    www.youtube.com/@TheBigGuyBillyBob Am i breaking out of a hospital?

  • @yasserasklou5491
    @yasserasklou54912 жыл бұрын

    thanks for calling it tamazight!

  • @TaiFerret
    @TaiFerret3 жыл бұрын

    I like to use wals.info. It shows many language features and you can look up how they tend to correlate to each other.

  • @Nik_Stopher
    @Nik_Stopher3 жыл бұрын

    What's "Schwebeablaut"? I only know "Ablautverhärtung", like in dog /dòk/

  • @lasagnegut4863
    @lasagnegut48632 жыл бұрын

    I know three languages, English, Norwegian and French

  • @kasane1337
    @kasane13373 жыл бұрын

    Alright, I guess I will never be a "true" conlanger, since I barely ever develop phonotactics and never understood why I should. I have my inventory, I know how the pronounciation changes depending on the circumstances, but I don't know why I should label it CV, VCV, CCV or anything like that. To me it would only make sense to think about it once I'm 'done' creating a very large vocabulary, because the syllable structure doesn't mean anything prescriptive but is descriptive to me.

  • @abarette_

    @abarette_

    4 ай бұрын

    phonotactics ain't just that, it's generally the rules around how you arrange your letters/phonemes. Like how in English you can't have multiple approximants à la suite (/blju/ => /blu/, /bæɹl/ => /bæɹəl/) or how you can't start a word with /kn/ (which is why kn is pronounced /n/ instead). It generally forges a "feel" for your language. [Does this specific word "sound" yourlanguage-y?] is what it answers. The (C⁴)V(C⁴) is the meaningless part of the iceberg.

  • @holierthanmao1609
    @holierthanmao1609 Жыл бұрын

    2:40 Which indo aryan language do you speak? tum hindí bol sakte ho?

  • @yere7851
    @yere7851 Жыл бұрын

    the white background hurts my eyes so much

  • @kornsuwin
    @kornsuwin3 жыл бұрын

    ok

  • @juraz1k459
    @juraz1k4592 жыл бұрын

    Lol you sound like a mix of Grian and Biblaridion

  • @the_linguist_ll

    @the_linguist_ll

    2 жыл бұрын

    Griblaridian

  • @juraz1k459

    @juraz1k459

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@the_linguist_ll lol

  • @seilaessecanalnvaitervideo6414
    @seilaessecanalnvaitervideo64143 жыл бұрын

    my main lenguage its purtuguese my second its english and i trying to learn french and german

  • @JohnDoe-ye6sh

    @JohnDoe-ye6sh

    3 жыл бұрын

    My first language is English, in trying to learn Portuguese...then French and German. Great minds think alike lol.

  • @jankima8646

    @jankima8646

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love learning vastly different languages, like Manchu, Inuktitut, Basque, Korean, Tibetan, Xhosa (im not fluent in any but ive dabbled in them) to learn about how other languages process info. Languages too similar feel like i am learning the same language 2x, just with variation. But you do you

  • @seilaessecanalnvaitervideo6414

    @seilaessecanalnvaitervideo6414

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jankima8646 its because of looking like you are learning the same lenguage x2 that i dont wanna learn spanish and italian german its far enoght from english to not be understanable same with french from portuguese

  • @seilaessecanalnvaitervideo6414

    @seilaessecanalnvaitervideo6414

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JohnDoe-ye6sh ok so what my name mean "n"its just a quick way of saying nao it isnt formal its just used on the internet and seila mean i dont know it is used alot but isnt formal spech

  • @Char444

    @Char444

    3 жыл бұрын

    My mother tongue is Punjabi.. second mother tongue is Urdu then I learnt English in School and know some arabic currently learning Turkish while creating a conlang😂

  • @thatfamiiiarnight3665
    @thatfamiiiarnight36652 жыл бұрын

    5:59 wait, what? english doesn’t have a retroflex approximant. english’s rhotic is a postalveolar approximant.

  • @Lichenthefictioneer

    @Lichenthefictioneer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Depends on the dialect. Seems to be retroflex in West Country, Canadian, and Northern Irish. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciation_of_English_/r/

  • @thatfamiiiarnight3665

    @thatfamiiiarnight3665

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Lichenthefictioneer oh, okay. the reason most people pronounce /tr/ as [tʃɹ̠] (i’m not doing the tiebars for the affricates because they’re inconvenient to type) is because it’s postalveolar. when it’s pronounced as an alveolar approximant, /tr/ is pronounced [tsɹ]. theoretically, when it’s pronounced with a retroflex approximant, shouldn’t /tr/ be pronounced [ʈʂɻ]?

  • @thatfamiiiarnight3665

    @thatfamiiiarnight3665

    2 жыл бұрын

    i personally pronounce /r/ as [ɹ̠ˠʷ].

  • @mumtazansari9275
    @mumtazansari927513 күн бұрын

    3:00

  • @LxndrPhnx
    @LxndrPhnx3 жыл бұрын

    Lasagna = Cat 10:30

  • @daniel-um7ho
    @daniel-um7ho6 ай бұрын

    what is PIE

  • @FieldLing639

    @FieldLing639

    3 ай бұрын

    Proto-Indo-European, ancestor of the Indo-European language family

  • @pentelegomenon1175
    @pentelegomenon11752 жыл бұрын

    What if you intentionally learn nothing, because you don't want to borrow anything from existing languages?

  • @Lichenthefictioneer

    @Lichenthefictioneer

    2 жыл бұрын

    This strategy is flawed, because there is such a beautiful variety in Earth's languages that you are almost certain to 'borrow' a feature whether you know it or not! :) Plus, if you learn something, then you can be conscious of things you'd like to avoid.

  • @Ggdivhjkjl
    @Ggdivhjkjl2 жыл бұрын

    My apologies. I had liked this video in the middle but given your direction at the end, I've now removed the like. Sorry for any offence this may have caused.

  • @jan_Masewin
    @jan_Masewin3 жыл бұрын

    At some point you have to stop and make the damn language, but where that point is I have no idea :’)

  • @TheMasaoL
    @TheMasaoL3 жыл бұрын

    It was on 666 but then i hit like.

  • @snowman7514
    @snowman75143 жыл бұрын

    i see 22 people liked :/

  • @olamorz5117
    @olamorz51172 жыл бұрын

    Okay reverse psychology... No sub nor like then...

  • @nia5032
    @nia50323 жыл бұрын

    why did i post that message (which i just deleted)

  • @entwistlefromthewho
    @entwistlefromthewho3 жыл бұрын

    That weird log-fire-burning sound you've got going on here is tremendously distracting. I would seriously re-upload with it removed.

  • @mattlawyer3245
    @mattlawyer3245 Жыл бұрын

    I did not like and did not subscribe, as per your instructions.