17:56 Dan: “Show us your organ.” 17:58 Mick: “We’re turning into Andertons” 😂😂😂🤣 blimey you two are a lot of fun

@jonlohrenz5446

5 жыл бұрын

Justie1220 did you hear about the streaker in church? They caught him by the organ.

@HiVizSmiley

5 жыл бұрын

Danish Pete would be proud

@crumpred805

5 жыл бұрын

Odd how the Vibrat-O followed the Organ ...

@Auxend

5 жыл бұрын

followed by the hybrid, pick-holding, high-five...they need an emoji!

@davedavem

5 жыл бұрын

10:40 "Whereas if you're bending down to sort the... knob out, as it were..."

This really makes you question and think about which effects you "need." Sometimes you want a particular sound, but other times you just want some kind of movement/adding of depth, and you see from this episode that a lot of them can work for that.

“If they can’t hear you, then you’re not loud enough.” Should be a TPS shirt.

@ztjd10

5 жыл бұрын

Sean Sanford I’d buy two!

@ultratone

5 жыл бұрын

I’d buy as well!

@goswo

5 жыл бұрын

Or “if You cant hear your self - stop thinking or play louder”

@BipolarSmile

5 жыл бұрын

Awesome idea!

@KristonAbbott

5 жыл бұрын

Just take my money, I want one 😄

That part in Won't Get Fooled Again is actually a pre-recorded synthesized track, similar to what they did in Baba O'Riley. Fun fact: In the early 70's footage Pete Townshend can still be seen manually cranking the volume on his amp for solos, then rolling it back off.

The intro of Greenday's - Boulevard of Broken Dreams is a good example of a square wave tremolo.

@score_1337

5 жыл бұрын

exactly what i thought at that moment :D it's really nice

@philipellis7039

5 жыл бұрын

As I understand it’s that’s an effect in Pro Tools rather than played on the guitar - I believe the band don’t play it live either and rely on a backing tape (my acronym) - so it’s square wave tremolo but not using a tremolo pedal.

@chrisoakley2851

5 жыл бұрын

I love that green day song

@josephzdyrski

5 жыл бұрын

I believe that exact boulevard of broken dreams effect is a preset on the fender mustang 1 v2 ...... It took me forever to figure out what that mustang effect was but its green day effect to a t .....it's the last mod effect I believe.

@chrisridesbicycles

5 жыл бұрын

That was the first song that came into my mind when they played with that effect.

That movement Dan's talking about with vibrato is something I love to do with tremolo, especially on my acoustic shows. Very subtle, fairly slow. Just makes it sound more alive. First time I ever tried a wet dry rig I used tremolo and a ping pong delay. I sat between both amps while my brother in law played big open chords, and cried. So incredible sounding.

@paulcowart3174

5 жыл бұрын

I like subtle but fast

When Dan just grabs the tuning key and perfectly cranks it down to Drop D in one blast of rock n roll-ness.......awesome!

John Squire...a master at using all these effects in the manner you guys explain them individually to fill out a sound in a mix.

I feel the bridge pickup on a strat really comes into its own with modulation

The flanger as a chorus thing is why I love the Deco so much. It can get very chorus like, and even vibey, while also being flangy. I think I just made up a lot of words, but it's just an amazing pedal. Thanks as always for the show.

@proteusswarm7291

5 жыл бұрын

+1 for the Deco. Best chorus flange and slapback all in one box.

@lharper266

Жыл бұрын

perfect description words actually! haha

This one was nearly all business, sans tangents. I want my tangents, damn it! 😜

@hoboroadie

5 жыл бұрын

There was a lot to cover on this subject. I had to watch five times.

I'm going to have to go to a 12 - step program, but this time for Dimension C: - "My Always - On Pedal". It's the sound of my youth. I love what mod effects do to the EQ, & not just the churning & bubbling they're known for.

I use a vibrato in mono, but I run it before a short, subtle delay, and it kinda creates a natural chorus sound that feels less wobbly and structured than a normal chorus pedal. It's hard to shut off once I've started!

To: Dan and Mick Message: Can I make a humble suggestion? Take a look at the Anderton's tone room. They've got warm lamps on and strings of lights. There are warm and bright accents all around their room. The new pedal shed is still looking cold, dark, blue and a bit depressing. That black curtain feels like a dark void encroaching from your left and right and it takes up 1/3 of the total screen. I love your show. Your knowledge and experience have been so helpful to me. I continue to watch because the two of you are great players and I'm always learning. So thanks for that. The room could just be a bit easier on the eyes.

@OriginalBlueFrankie

5 жыл бұрын

Zinger - Actually I couldn't care less about that. It's more about the psychology of color. Think about how many hours you spend watching TPS. It would be nice if the color scheme wasn't depressing, which it is.

Another thing I really love about Strymon Timeline is it's Dual mode in Parallel mode. On stage I usually go stereo using one main amp with quarter notes + modulations like Tremolo, Filter, Phaser etc. and the other amp with dotted eight notes with a higher mix and more repeats but without any modulation, with kill dry. So basically on the left amp you hear your main delay with modulations and the right amp with ONLY dotted eight notes without the modulation effects. It's literally amazing.

1. The ADA flanger sounded great. Best I've heard of it in a demo. Got to try this out. 2. The big knob on the fuzz with all the little value lines is amusing. My knowledge of geometry tells me it gives no more fine control than any other pot knob, but it is definitely gives an illusion of more control. It is a maths placebo. 3. Another technique is "subliminal tremolo." Set time of tremolo to be on the ones of the measure. You can't really hear it, but it adds movement.

The timing of this was funny because I just discovered the vibrato trick this week with my HX Stomp!

My favorite Chorus was my old Memory Man. Just really thick and dirty. Added a ton of depth to 9th and 13th chords.

The tremolo on "Crimson and Clover" is classic.

@jimsweetdog

5 жыл бұрын

John Kelley Brown, oh yeah! Especially on the long version with it added to the vocal as well, just stunning! :-)

The amazing singer/guitarist Taylor Goldsmith from the band Dawes talked about leaving his original VB-2 on during entire gigs on his Rig Rundown.

Johnny Marr just used a regular Fender amp with tremolo, on How Soon is Now, rather than square wave, and played the famous Bo Diddley chug over the top at the same speed as the tremolo effect. There’s a video where he explains and demonstrates it.

I have my vibrato on all the time as well to colour the signal. Then when I go to fuzz tone, I crank up the rate on a low depth and it cuts better than ever. Great stuff Dan.

Mick, I always had trouble with Phaser vs Flanger as well. I think the way I delineate between the two is Flange happens "around" the notes and Phase happens "to" the note. Similarly, I think tremolo and harmonic tremolo act the same. Harmonic tremolo seems to happen "around" the notes and tremolo happens "to" the notes. PS. THAT FLANGER ON THE DELAY REPEATS! glorious glorious glorious. Thanks, guys and cheers!

Went straight to the board after watching this and got a heap of new sounds! A lite Chorus and a bit more modulation on the boss RV-5 and overdrive sounded huge! Even managed to sniff out a new song. Just for the halibut, the octave with the delay time right up on the EHX canyon is not a bad organ! Thanks for the tips guys! Keep up the “ace” work.

Coming from the early 1990s shoegaze crowd, my sound back then was absolutely swamped with VB-2 vibrato, PN-2 tremolo, and CE-3 chorus, all feeding into a PS-2 delay and RV-2 reverb, which then hit my Ampeg VH-140C's reverb and chorus, but on my current pedalboard, the only modulation effect is a tc electronic Shaker vibrato, unless you count my tc electronic Mimiq as a modulation effect. The Boss CE-3 can be used like a VB-2 Vibrato. Just plug into Output A only, and use the Mode II setting, which outputs Wet on A/Dry on B. If I'm not mistaken, the CE-3 and VB-2 use the same Panasonic BBD chipset. That was how I used to simulate that thing Kevin Shields does with the vibrato arm on his guitar whilst strumming, which I could not do, since I played a Rickenbacker 330.

When I found out how close Chorus n flangers are schematically my mind seriously was blown. Science 😄🎸🎛🔊🎼🤟❤️

"Go forth and modulate." Your descriptions are killer! 😂

@ThatPedalShow

5 жыл бұрын

Ha! Thank you!

I use chorus to simulate organ sounds too, but also add tremolo. The two together can come very close. The old DOD FX-60 does this well.

The tap-a-whirl is the best tremolo ever. Its the only tremolo that can keep sync by redefining the 1-count by just hitting the tap tempo once. I just wish it had a harmonic mode

Something I figured out the other day: using a tremolo with flanger to create a through-zero-Flanger effect.

I recorded an original song combining a reissue large box deluxe memory man with the vibrato setting of my Redwitch empress chorus and ended up with the most organic chorusing effect I have heard.

The "Jet plane" modulation was done back in the day in one box. Ibanez had the Jetlyzer, which was a drive - fuzz perhaps - and a phaser in the same box. I'm sure there was also a box called the Jetphase which may have been from Roland. Both boxes came out in the late 70's from memory.

I can't tell you how many problems I get when I "bend down to sort my knob out" As always an awesome show gentlemen. B

You guys help me understand how to listen to what the pedals do. Thank you

Great show! The Empress Tremolo2 is also killer - variable waveforms, tap tempo, 8 memory presets, gorgeous sounding analogue signal path, and rhythmic patterns (with different strong/weak beat patterns....something I've never seen on any other term pedal) - highly recommended!

@chrisboule970

5 жыл бұрын

Diamond Trem also great. Only pedal that's never left the board for 10 years! Tap, variable waveforms, momentary switch and boost to compensate for perceived volume loss. Works as gorgeous clean boost too when depth turned down.

I love what you said about the vibrato effect. The Caverns by Keeley does something very similar (the reverb side) and it adds SO MUCH to the sound 🙂🎸

Dan, your playing was so fun to listen to. Thanks.

Great show! I actually have used a phase 90 before the drives for all modulation for years. 1 knob, 1 o'clock for Hendrix and Floyd, turn it way down for Van Halen. It works. I have added tremolo now

That bit with the flanger around 53:00 is F-ing amazing

@jimbeaux4988

5 жыл бұрын

I don't remember the Electric Mistress going that extreme.

Perfect timing guys! I just got a Ripply Fall from Jam Pedals (Chorus/Vibrato/Phaser). Much appreciated!

@paulcowart3174

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah with that thing all on you get a Vibe thrown in there too

Great episode. I struggled with modulation for a while because I always thought it was just doing too much. When you figure out that just a hint can be used in a lot of ways, it’s a great tool

Dan says, "I am rethinking my approach to my organ now!" That's ace. It always needs proper attention says a 50 year old or it can have as many problems as an old an old tape delay. LOL. But seriously, this is another fantastic show. I have a Subdecay Vagabond term/harmonic trem that has an Env Shift knob that allows increases or decreases the speed based on amount of pick attack. Subdecay has some very interesting things, btw.

@51:26 This is how Adrian Belew got the “percussion” sound on “Genius Of Love” by Tom Tom Club.

The Ibanez Airplane Flanger is a copy of Gilbert's vintage ADA Flanger big box. He manually moved the enhance knob for the effect on the original, but the Take Off Mode on the Ibanez simulates it.

This show is so good for all guitar players, but god damn does it hella hook up more advanced players looking to improve the small things ! Thank you so much for the videos!

Didn't realize it was Friday until this popped up in my feed. Bless you both

More Tangents is a band name I'm currently considering... Cheers from Chicago. Thank you for making Fridays a bit better~~~

TC Electronics Pipeline tremolo pedal does most everything that one does, including tap tempo. And it sounds glorious. Highly recommended.

At 6:36 , I love this comment from Mick: "so the band is all synced on the same midi crap!" My sentiments exactly!

@jrr832

5 жыл бұрын

All the band's delay settings are in time and that's a problem?

@tomjames7894

5 жыл бұрын

@@jrr832 Just not keen on midi. Never have been. For those who like it and use it I'm sure it works well. But it's not something I've ever felt a need for. Simply a personal choice.

The vibe effect is just on another level as useful/musical than the others, even though they are all interesting.

Yet another brilliant episode guys! I do a similar thing to number 5 with my bass. I put my CE-2W in the CE-1 mode and put the depth to max and rate at minimum. It instantly makes anything sound bigger and better!

My favourite example of awesome tremolo is After Dark by Tito and Tarantula, check out that solo!

Lovely sounds on this one

For #2 organ sound, try using CS1 maxed out into a light over drive and I use the sub n up but most octavers would work ... Then throw on a phaser or flashback and you're in organ y heaven!

Well, having sold my vibrato pedal after deeming it pointless/ useless I'm now feeling like a bit of an organ.....

@alessandrodecarli2462

5 жыл бұрын

🤣

@danielakerman8241

5 жыл бұрын

Shame on you, Mick for not knowing your Who catalog!!! TBH I’m no expert, but I believe what you were thinking of was Won’t Get Fooled Again. However the sound you’re thinking of was a synth! I don’t believe Pete was a big tremolo user

@danielakerman8241

5 жыл бұрын

Mick, those were some tasty licks on the Vent.

@gcvrsa

5 жыл бұрын

Ross Wardrope I sold my VB-2 back when they were still going for $250, only to see them climb to $500+ before the VB-2w came out.

@michaelkay611

5 жыл бұрын

@@danielakerman8241 I'm pretty sure you're right - as far as I know Pete Townsend used synths with sequencers for that and I think Baba O'Riley and Who's Next. But there's no shame in that. Sometimes remembering things in front of a camera is harder than in front of a computer. Great episode, guys!

#9 sounds akin to the effect Paul Westerberg used on The Replacements' "Within Your Reach."

A few ideas for some custom D&M Keeley Modulation pedals: The Dan-ger Flanger The Micki Vent Damn, you know that feeling when you make yourself laugh. Yup, I'm there now.

I love puttering around my guitar room and listening to TPS thank you again for this wonderful content

Master of Rotary as organ - Oz Noy. Does magic with it.

very inclusive with an abundance of useful detail ... thanks

A couple of suggestions on episode or reoccurring episodes - "Hidden Gems", "Sleeper Pedals": each week or month search out these hidden gems/sleepers and study and present. And "Making The Inexpensive To Priceless " making the inexpensive pedals work to it's greatest potential! Love the channel!

@Fox-86

5 жыл бұрын

I think that would very probably cause the prices to rise, just like what happens to old people amps reviewed by Johan segeborn. But it would be interesting nevertheless 😁😆

For the wet/dry VB-2 thing, another option is the Keeley 30ms, that is always on for me when I'm doing the wet-dry thing....makes it sound just so much fuller!

@mobydick3895

Жыл бұрын

I have a Keeley 30ms ,,, how do you hook it up in your wet/dry rig?

@unicornyoho

Жыл бұрын

@@mobydick3895 Oh man, this is a long time ago, not using it anymore. I imagine I just had the Keeley 30ms going into the wet amp.

The best chorus is indeed a flanger - I think I'm going to get the Elec Lady or the ADA after hearing them

Ever thought of doing a short educational series on promoting music people can get into, with all this noise of a Zillion bands, love your recommendation on music to listen too as you have have great taste. Starter. Neal Schon ( Journey’s guitarist) makes killer albums nobody knows about! .. and what a player.

This innuendo-packed episode was JUST what I needed today - thanks guys, brilliant content as always :D

I am in awe of the balletic grace with which Mick points out the active amps. But seriously, folks, thanks for another entertaining and educational video.

Ohhh, I just started this episode and I spot the Ventilator Mini! I can’t wait! Ever since I saw your Leslie episode, I knew I have to get one. I may FINALLY order one in the next couple of months but have been curious how the Mini stacks up with the full Ventilator II and if all the extra money is worth it. Here’s to the hope that anything like that will be mentioned.

"100 watts of pure love" - Dans Tinder profile.

Thanks guys, you made me pause your video to go listen to "Won't Get Fooled Again" because its an awesome track that I haven't heard in a while! :) BTW, its actually an organ playing the part not a guitar. Still awesome.

Mick, the day you finally found the harmonic tremolo light was a landmark in TPS history. Harmonic trem is EVERYTHING. (Also, I give myself some credit for this because I nagged at you about it in comments for ages)

@ThatPedalShow

5 жыл бұрын

You and Joey, David. I thank you both!

@DavidDyte1969

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThatPedalShow And this will surely be the last time those two slide players are mentioned in the same breath ;)

Thanks for the mention of the inimitable Robin Trower! Nice bit of Bridge of Sighs there, Mick!

@ThatPedalShow

5 жыл бұрын

Ha, thanks Night! Would have been even better if I'd got the notes right!

@nightwishlover8913

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThatPedalShow You were close enough to recognise it, Mick! Well done!

I'm all against ripping other people's ideas off but honestly I would love to see Dan blindfolded and a range of pedals from low to high price and see his opinions on them. He seems to love everything (which is great) but would be real interesting to watch 👍

@ThatPedalShow

5 жыл бұрын

Ha! I can categorically tell you that he doesn't love everything. Get some cheap ass badly isolated power supply and some digital Modulation and overdrive on there. Instant sad Dan.

@ellie-jay2217

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThatPedalShow I want to see a sad Dan.....I think it would be great if maybe we saw a happy Dan but with an affordable pedal. Was just a thought but which 2 better guys to do a blindfold pedal test? 👍

@ThatPedalShow

5 жыл бұрын

It's not really our thing. It's clickbait entertainment not people trying to connect with music. But it is fun to watch I guess!

@ellie-jay2217

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThatPedalShow but for someone like me who is trying to move away from the helix and wants a physical pedalboard it would be great to spot out any little affordable gems. I would trust your guys ears over many others on KZread so feel I could rely on them if you said a £69 pedal blew you away for the money....and it would make my wife much happier....think about her guys...just think about her.....😂

If you want to hear some really cool choppy tremolo, check out the intro to Zeus "Are You Gonna Waste My Time". You can hear the rate of the tremolo slowing down until the tremolo disappears when it goes into the second half of the first verse. VERY cool

Great episode! I have my Deja Vibe as the first pedal in my chain. Also, moving modulation pedals around makes for many fun discoveries.

My first amp was an Ampeg VH-140C 2x12 stereo chorus combo, which does its chorus by applying a vibrato to one channel, and I always used it with deep depth and slow rate.

CCR - Born on the bayou was my intro to tremolo. Cuban Slide by The Pretenders is another great trem song.

I had my old Ibanez Flanger up for sale. I ended the sale after watching this! I can't believe I hadn't messed with it more after playing for 35 years now. I was stuck in the Van Halen mode. Now I'm using it more like a chorus pedal. It's like a new toy!

Not sure what the tremolo circuit looks like but the tremolo in the old Ampeg Rockets is cool. It really different than what Fender did.

@paulcowart3174

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah very cool I've got one The Silvertone has a good one too Both different

I love this video, it inspired me to think differently about the gear I currently have and set it up in an entirely new way. I'm looking forward to really pushing my creativity with this. I've recently come into possession of an amp with built in tremolo. Using my pedals and such I'll be able to run a wet/dry amp setup. Opening new (to me) tones to create with.

My Happiness by Powderfinger! Great, great song. That riff sounds particularly brilliant when done on an old Maestro phaser!

I loved this show all cool sounds and textures, all done very musical. this I got unlike that show 2 weeks back. As a side note I went and listened to almost all of Radioheads Discograpy and well just not a fan I stopped listening to commercial radio in the 80's. so the only time I hear anything after the 70's is when my wife forces me to listen to it in the car. So maybe I have missed a lot of good music. When you guys play it is very inspiring!!!!

2,3,4 "Won't get fooled again!!"..... clean tone. LMAO!!

You missed one thing, boys! Tremolo with a polyphonic pitch shifter in front! I set my with an octave up and octave down with 50 % blend and with tremolo it sounds kind of like an organ and reminds me a little of the Leslie speaker. It's like the Black Hole Sun verse guitar, only bigger.

That robotic flanger around 51 minutes is amazing! I'm stealing that.

Hi Dan & Mick! Another type of modulation I guess is panning? I’ve got a BOSS PN-2 pan/trem pedal. Set up two amps either side of the stage and use a square wave fast pan between them. Gets pretty trippy.....

@ThatPedalShow

5 жыл бұрын

Ooh yeah! Add a delay pedal and jazz cigarette. Hours of fun!

@psychoangus

5 жыл бұрын

Would you like to borrow it for a show? I haven’t had 2 amps for a while so would love to see what you could do with it!

OK here's something I do with my dual speed Tremodilla (Diaz) The fast speed is so fast that it's hard to discern but gives it just a killer tone and the slow as a pretty much normal trem tone Give it a go you might like Always experiment Cheer's

Mick, Simon mega thank you for adding the timestamps! I learn about a lot of new bands and songs from your videos(Blake Mills for instance). Is anyone here cataloguing the songs/artists discussed in TPS episodes?

@purushswaminathan5693

5 жыл бұрын

The timestamps are important to someone like me who gets reminded of an interesting sound, then forgets which video it was from. Now i can search on youtube and youtube digs up the descriptions too! Cheers!🍻

my big problem with of 90% modulation/reverb is the loss of attack/transient- I absolutely hate that washed out "messy" flavor to my playing. I always stayed away from reverb pedals until i found the concept of PRE DELAY. that little aspect changed my entire relationship with reverb and now i can pour a bunch on without loss of the note.

I wonder if an aspect of our love for those slightly phased/modulated textures on drive sounds has to do with our expectation of that type of sound from various famous recordings; it seems to me that often time to track guitar and make them sound big you usually intentionally introduce some skewed phase relationship either through double tracking or the physical phenomena of mic placement. Modern recordings that seem to remove all of this sound sterile imo by comparison. Phase never ceases to amaze me as this unique phenomena that sits somewhere in between our relative perception of a thing or sound artifact and the thing itself, I think that’s why it’s so captivating when it’s slightly manipulated, brings this human quality to the sound, that “movement”

@ThatPedalShow

5 жыл бұрын

Yes blimmin excellent point!

@justingarcia7722

5 жыл бұрын

That Pedal Show thanks guys! It's been sitting in my head after finishing this recent recording session in which phase and all that was so important to getting the guitars to sit and feel right, so much to think about!

Mick’s description writing on point as always, ageing like the finest Bordeaux! TPS PSA: Anyone not reading the descriptions to each episode is missing out on a crucial part of That Pedal Show experience!

Exactly how I've been using the VB-2 for years now, it's such a great sound

Fun fact, flanging was made in studios by running two tapes, same guitar part simultaniously and slowing down by hand the tape by pressing down on the flange of the tape reel. Grtz

My TPS long sleeves t-shirt arrived yesterday and I wore it to rehearsal last night. I have never played better. Coincidence? Thanks fellows for all that you do, and even more for how you do it!

@ThatPedalShow

5 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha!!! Because tone baby, because tone. :0)

I always thought the “my happiness” sound was a chorus on full rate & full depth. I was always able to get a really good approximation of that sound on my old Marshall valvestate that had onboard chorus

My first pedal as a teenager was an early 80s Yamaha flanger, weird pick perhaps but had such a dramatic sound and could go from light chorus to jet plane madness. They had this amazing master chassis that you could screw every pedal in the Yamaha range into (with no need for patch cables) it probably cost a million bucks at the time :)

@mattroberts4201

5 жыл бұрын

www.effectsdatabase.com/model/yamaha/01/sb200

Completely unrelated to todays video but I thought I'd let you guys know that I just finished a telecaster build inspired by Red. A Cady Apple red warmoth telecaster with a broadcaster bridge pu and a twisted tele neck. Maple neck instead of rosewood. Looks great sounds great and makes me smile!

Great show again lads. I’m a tremolo nut and I love Phaser/Filter effects... when are JHS or Keeley or Boss going to make you a D&M modulation pedal? Harmonic Trem on one side for Mick and Electric Mistress style Flanger on the other for Dan - The “Mod You Later” maybe?

Greatest flänger song of all time by Mr Blackmore "Man on the silver mountain", which often played live by Mr Gilbert...

Haven't watched it yet and I already know that this is RIGHT up my street. 😊

Guys, thank you for everything you do! You’ve been instrumental in my electric guitar journey (and acoustic too actually). I have a cellist friend who has just discovered electric cello, specifically 2cellos and I’m planning to direct him to you, and a video like this will hopefully help him understand some of the basics. Along those lines, I also work with some young guitarists starting out, what would you guys think of a quick overview video of all of the basic effect sounds so the young folks can direct their rabbit trails? (Also, this is my wife’s account, I guess I should get my own, don’t mind the username...) -Aaron