Love black and white and thanks for the technique in Lightroom I usually use Photoshop to convert my images.

Enjoyed the images. As a film photographer, hearing about conversions made me shake my head as I have to choose what stock I will shoot with vs changing my mind later. Then again, I carry 2 film backs so I can shoot b/w and color. The lessons on the computer process does help as I am learning this side as I can not afford the time to wet print everything I want to share.

Not sure why I didn't discover John earlier. Great presentation, spot on, extremely useful and a great guy.

@BandH

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I know this was a few years ago, but I really enjoyed the information. Really liked the use of the control points. I have very little experience with them, even though I use NIK all the time. Very nice work, Sir.

Great video. Knew some learned a great deal.

This was very helpful! Learned a lot. Thanks for not flying through the process and taking your time to explain why. I was able to follow along. Look forward to more of your tutorials. Thank you!

John your processing is really great and replicates b&w film really well. Thanks for the tutorial.

@Johnbatdorff

9 жыл бұрын

***** Thanks for watching and the kind remark.

@monishbansal

8 жыл бұрын

+John Batdorff Photography if you hold ALT/Option key, the effect turns into a reset for the settings for the filters. might save you some time resetting them one by one.

wait wai. In another video with Eileen Rafferty, she said that COLOR SATURATION doesn't mean nothing when you convert to BW only color tonalities (light-dark). Exemple: if i convert a saturated red and the same red less saturated, in BW, nothing change.

@stolencoats63

2 жыл бұрын

He just has his terminology mixed up. When he's referencing saturation he's really talking about luminosity.

This is a goldmine of info

Good Job !

Well Happy Mother's Day to me! I enjoyed this presentation as I have been trying to achieve quality black and whites for the last while. It was nice to see yet another helpful and inspiring session from B&H :)

Very informative video! Thanks John Batdorff and thanks B&H Photo for sharing it with the Internet community.

First, John it's a real pleasure to watch your workshop. I'm quite new to LI (used camera raw and ps so far). So why and when do you use Silver Efex Pro2 instead of LI?

@BandH

9 жыл бұрын

PlanschDieKanne While Lightroom 5 is great for straight up B&W conversion, Silver Efex Pro 2 can take it to a whole other level. Silver Efex Pro 2 is a plug-in that is designed and dedicated to do nothing else but this. So it is able to do things, or do things better and easier than Lightroom. Silver Efex Pro 2 has 38 presets that you can use as starting points for your processing work, including vintage looks as well as modern ones. This places the plug-in ahead of Photoshop and Lightroom. The Contrast and Structure Sliders offer more options and better control for enhancing texture. Silver Efex?s Control Points, which is the center of a circle within which you can make tonal adjustments. make local adjustments easier, too. You can change contrast, brightness and structure of local areas in your photo without having to layer and mask it to death. Control Points also is easier for converting an image to black and white while leaving part of it in color. Silver Efex?s History Panel is more precise. Every adjustment made to the photo is listed in the History panel. Silver Efex Pro 2 can show you where the tones in your photo fall within the eleven zones of the Zone System. One useful application of this is that you can use it to see which areas of your photo may block up in print because they are too dark or too light. And finally, black and white film emulation is superior. While you cannot easily mimic different film types in Lightroom, the Film Types panel gives you a choice of 18 different black and white films that genuinely mimic that particular film. Steven C askbh@bandh.com

@PlanschDieKanne

9 жыл бұрын

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@PlanschDieKanne

9 жыл бұрын

B and H Thank you so much Steven! Now I really want to have that plugin ;). Really great description.

why why why did you not close the panel on the left? it made the image you were working on very small and harder to see. I would have enjoyed this much more if that panel was out of the way

@Howaboua

7 жыл бұрын

logo.

1971: (Batdorff) “To get color in a newspaper back in the day was very expensive” 2021: (John Doe Junior) “What is a newspaper?”

I know for sure that Eileen mentioned H and S dont matter when it comes to black and white. This guy seemed to made a mistake. He probably meant L is most imp instead of S… Can someone confirm?

@BandH

2 жыл бұрын

Hello. If possible, please send your inquiry to askbh@bhphoto.com so we can assist you better. Thank you.

Saturatin makes no effect on BW!!! BW takes out all saturation. It is the Brightness ou luminosity which is kept in BW!

@8andre3

3 жыл бұрын

Was about to say this. And when he said "light red and dark red", well, the light or dark aspect has to do with the brightness, not the saturation

ISO-400, 15mm, f/2.8, 1/200-sec... ISO-320, 35mm, f/5.6, 1/1000-sec... just two of the shooting info of images in this video that made me lose interest from the start. He made some very good points, but thinking that going black and white is a step toward the fine art side of photography, those shooting info don't seem to support that, where one is supposed to strive for maximum image quality.

@ibrajimenez2098

2 жыл бұрын

What would be an example of maximum quality then?

Clearly I spend too much time checking the edges of my frame when I shoot.. this presentation killed me. I couldn't get past the thing on the left hand of screen. And to a lesser extent the bottom right corner.

4:27 - finally gets to talking about the techniques of B&W, gets it totally wrong. Saturation in B&W is irrelevant. In fact, processing colour images into b&W is simply a case of removing saturation. The hue is only removed because the saturation of every hue is 0. Tone, or what you might call brightness, is the only factor in a B&W photo.

A master in photography told me once, take your time, wait for the right light and then shoot...if you have to use light room or Photoshop why spending a lot of money in equipment? just buy a point and shoot camera then fix the photos, if you have the knowledge and experience to capture a great photo you are a Photographer the rest just light room...fixs

@georgegeorgopoulos6014

6 жыл бұрын

You can't use a point and shoot in low light to start off with. Second, you don't have as much information to work with if you do want to edit or crop the images. Its not just about shooting in good light, there are many, many more things to consider when photographing. In fact if you get everything right with a point and shoot theres a good chance that often the image will have noise especially when choosing to print (depending on size) of course.You also will not get the dynamic range that a larger modern / sensor dslr offers. The difference is priceless. Otherwise people would not spend thousands of dollars carrying around heavy equipment if they could get away with using a point and shoot.The best photographers have spent hours and hours developing images in darkrooms and now its done digitally in LR and or PS. No difference really, just light years away as far as possibilities.

nothing advanced here, good video otherwise

he do that false advertisement in the beginning when I hit KZread and he they showed Bob Marley they were going to play his Greatest Hits and I pushed it and he went on to his black and white speech in his different colors he's very offensive he's not interesting it's very boring and it's Miss reputation is misrepresented it's terrible