1000hp I4 VS 1000hp V8 - The Ultimate Challenge
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1000hp I4 VS 1000hp V8 - The Ultimate Challenge
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@elios7623
10 ай бұрын
baby reveal pog
@carltonleboss
10 ай бұрын
Hi
I think this could be more fun at like 500hp, could actually get drivable cars and laps
@automotiveflux
10 ай бұрын
Maybe next time I'll go for 500hp on some different configurations
@firewalldaprotogen
10 ай бұрын
perhaps keep displacement the same too? idk.@@automotiveflux
@Geereg69
10 ай бұрын
@@firewalldaprotogeneither its gonna be a tiny v8 or a massive i4
@KillaVy
10 ай бұрын
I6 vs b4 or I6 vs u6 ???
@firewalldaprotogen
10 ай бұрын
or could just be somewhere in the middle for both. i think a 4L v8 is only a little bit small and a 4L I4 is only a little bit large@@Geereg69
the turbo lag on that I4 😆
@automotiveflux
10 ай бұрын
It was much worse, it's like the 80s all over again
i'm down for more tests like this, it's interesting from too little power to too much power in one slider change lmao
The lack of a fastback on these “definitely not datsuns” is driving me insane lmao
Perfect balancing on those engines, dude.
tbh, I expected you to use the same displacement for both engines, to see what more bangs vs bigger bangs does to an engine.
@-aid4084
10 ай бұрын
the i4 had a disadvantage because of the halfed displacement, meaning the turbo had to up it's game to make enough power. T hat being said, 1000 hp for either vehicle was too much lol
@wolfgang_h3t
9 ай бұрын
Using half a V8 is the whole point lmao.
@-aid4084
9 ай бұрын
@@wolfgang_h3t the problem comes with the inline 4's turbo needing to provide more boost to compensate for the lack of displacement compared to the v8. So this test was not very good for showing anything other than displacement matters. It didn't show the difference between and inline 4 and a v8 at all.
@-aid4084
9 ай бұрын
@@wolfgang_h3t tldr, test didn't isolate variable of inline-4 vs v8 from displacement, boost, and engine rpm.
@Hawk7886
3 ай бұрын
@@-aid4084the goal is the entire point. The engine with the displacement advantage has a way easier time.
I’d actually love to see a comparison like an old 70s V8 vs a brand new 2.0 turbo engine with all the bells and whistles making similar power. Or maybe something like an old but powerful v8 muscle car vs a modern but much less powerful car
@quartzcyanis
10 ай бұрын
well a 70s mustang makes like 140 hp so a 140hp 4 cyl is what you could get in a corolla...
@SeventhCircle77
9 ай бұрын
@@quartzcyanisnah the old 1970 mustang made somewhere around 325hp in the 302. That’s off the top of my head so might not be 100%
@quartzcyanis
9 ай бұрын
@@SeventhCircle77 I'm talking about the Mustang II cobra (yea, a 140hp cobra)
woudnt a better, more modern chassis with more downfore be better for the actual comparision? that way you could avoid the accidents from happening, idk
>Pushrod i4 Why would you do this. This is causing me actual, physical pain. I don't even think they make SOHC inline fours in modern day, let alone /pushrod/
congrats on the little one man
Fun fact: the reason you cant turn of the traction control is because you jave a setup where the.l car has some form of active suspension, but no actual traction control (i believe this is a bug) so you can switch sport amd comfort, but it does nothing.
You NEED a harmonic dampener my man
For high-horsepower race engines, 1st gear needs to be much taller; it should stretch to 100km/h in first gear at a minimum. That's how historic LeMans racers were geared; first gear tall as hell, all the others close together to straddle the peak powerband.
Creates test for comparing power, does cornering tests. I think what we wanted to see was quarter mile and top speed
@automotiveflux
10 ай бұрын
It's not comparing power as much as it's comparing power delivery
Chill vroom VS angry vroom
Don't know about the rest of us but what I learned today is that, just maybe, 1000hp is not quite as magical as we have been led to believe... :D It might be fun to see if a bit more civilizing stuff could make either of these useable as a daily. Time to tweak what you posted in your discord! Thanks for the half hour of fun today, sir!
@666cemetaryslut
10 ай бұрын
Unless the car was made for it (ex. Bugatti) 1000hp is useless
@mike3963
9 ай бұрын
He used the original tires that came on the car
G'day mate great vid my only criticism is that I think you should have used the same bore and stroke on the 4 as the 8 keep practicing turbo tuning ya gotta min max that stuff
@TheLtVoss
10 ай бұрын
Also the that he leaft the intercooler so small hurts
Its not just the game, its how it works in reality as well. A 600cc 4 cylinder motorcycle will make MUCH more HP than a 600cc single cylinder motorcycle. More power strokes will be occurring in the same amount of time in the 4 cylinder vs. the 1 cylinder.
@automotiveflux
10 ай бұрын
There is no replacement for displacement (or extra cylinders to a point)
@666cemetaryslut
10 ай бұрын
@@automotiveflux Cylinder count matters much more than displacement if you're going for high horsepower. Displacement lends itself more to torque
@666cemetaryslut
10 ай бұрын
@@automotiveflux RPM matters as well because HP is a product of RPM, multiple smaller pistons can move more quickly/rev higher than fewer big ones
@magicstew45
10 ай бұрын
@@666cemetaryslut it is a factor but natural engine balance and many other factors can contribute much more to rpm limits than the amount of cylinders.
@wwanimator
9 ай бұрын
@@magicstew45more cylinders = smaller and lighter cylinders at same displacement = MUCH easier to go to higher rpms this is why F1 cars have 1.5l V6 engines which you would never see in a modern road car. They also have very short stroke because that also helps to survive high rpm but obviously there are other factors as well
Honda guys run crazy boost to make 1000+. You can make over 1000 on a stock block K20, with very upgraded internals obviously, but the block holds it. You ARE at risk of literally splitting the block in half tho. I think they do actually run around 70 PSI. But yeah, having stiffer valve springs definitely helps lol, especially to get you higher RPMs to try and give you a more linear, usable power band.
@TheLtVoss
10 ай бұрын
But the K20 head flows so much better than any pushrod could doo 😅 helps the tubro spul up much quicker and you get the boost in the cylinders I man the 3,3bar in the video never really got in the engine
@TakeNoShift
10 ай бұрын
@@TheLtVoss Yeahhh I would've done DOHC for both motors, or at least the I4. I feel like some of the choices were kinda arbitrary.
**driving skills left the chat**
Some drag racing would've been good🤧
I like the plates. Atm a ton.
if you use a boxer 4 it allows you to twin turbo the engine in automation.
@automotiveflux
10 ай бұрын
Yes but that isn't an inline 4 so it doesn't make sense for my comparison
Think there may be some limits. For example, the Aliexpress 49cc single cylinder two stroke engine in my moped is significantly more powerful than the Aliexpress 78cc four stroke V8 engine my buddy has. We experimented, it simply lacks the torque to even move the moped, let alone drive it at a reasonable speed. Though to be fair I don't think the V8 is intended to power anything, I think it's meant to sit on a test stand and amuse rich people.
The top speed was set slightly bias towards the v8
Can't you do Sequential turbos or, just one for each pair of exausts? on the I4
3.8 L V6 twin-turbo and just build it as best you can please
Hello may I know how to get that body?
1000hp on an i4 is 250hp per cylinder and my tuned car which already fast makes 330hp on all four pistons. Crazy.
@automotiveflux
10 ай бұрын
Keep in mind the 50psi of boost it takes to pull that off
Basically a toyota 3/5S build or a 90s volvo red block build
@hannas865
10 ай бұрын
Stock blocks capable of over 1000hp, and almost 1000kw each
Would be cool the smallest 16 cylinder vs the biggest 4 cylinder
@automotiveflux
10 ай бұрын
That is a fun idea
@FIashOOT
10 ай бұрын
@@automotiveflux thanks🙃
hey dude where can i find those car on the discord ? love those video tho
@automotiveflux
9 ай бұрын
They are in new video discussion somewhere
I see datsun I click
@elios7623
10 ай бұрын
same
Inline 4 moment
I ended up doing the 500hp idea with 4.0L engines kzread.info/dash/bejne/p2t51rVvmay7maQ.html
I cant stop making 2-8k horsepower engines smh. Hopefully future updates dont make it even harder to make stupid but fun vehicles.
@automotiveflux
9 ай бұрын
A few updates ago the overall max power was lowered pretty significantly but it seems like under 10k is here to stay
@alt666
9 ай бұрын
@@automotiveflux At least we can still edit the engine files after the fact if they ever do lower the power more.
Do you use mods for automation
@automotiveflux
9 ай бұрын
Yes, from the steam workshop
You picked some of the worst engine hardware for a high hp 4 cylinder build. If the engine was more optimized it wouldn’t have such extreme lag and wouldn’t require such high boost pressure.
Your daughter sounds happy in the background. And looks pretty comfortable on you. You said she is 3 months old? According to the internet she can hold her head well at this point, but my mom still advised me to support the head of my brother who was 6 months old at that point. Also she has a little darker spot on her head, I wonder what it is. I hope I am not bothering you with my pseudo-parening.
@automotiveflux
10 ай бұрын
That spot is called a "strawberry mark" or by the medical name "Haemangioma", it's harmless in that location so no worries there. It should go away before she turns 10
Datsun*
It is fkn annoy how he doesn't bother touching the handling of the vehicles at all.
Austrailian z
I feel that I could build a 600-750 biturbo V or I6 that would outrun both... But definitely in a better platform that isn't based on a 50+ year old sports car..
@automotiveflux
10 ай бұрын
Do it
i think your skill is the issue not the car. Do you know how to shift a manual you have to let off the gas and then clutch not full throttle and hit the clutch. you spun out multiple times because you are basically clutch kicking every shift. also you can use less throttle 100% is obv to much but you kept jabbing it to 100 again making you spin out. same w the brakes no abs means no 100% or you will just slide
Pushrod i4? ewwwww
I liked my own comment and replied to my own comment
@piotrceklarz8587
26 күн бұрын
Why do you check
Stealing this idea :D
@automotiveflux
10 ай бұрын
Go ahead, sharing ideas is part of the fun
4 banger > v8
@UncleVenz
10 ай бұрын
Incorrect
@magicstew45
10 ай бұрын
Lopey V8 > I4
For having 1000hp, its terribly slow..
Should have just drag raced them and timed them. Top speed run and timed them. Negate the driving skills.
@automotiveflux
10 ай бұрын
Drag racing still requires skill