10 Worst Moments Of The Dying Days Of WCW
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1. 10 Worst Moments Of The Dying Days Of WCW
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To Arquette's credit, he thought his world title win was stupid as well, and donated his WCW earnings to the families of Owen Hart and Brian Pillman.
@kazallroberts
Жыл бұрын
I think Arquette winning the title was Tony Schiavone's idea
@jmferr2011
Жыл бұрын
He's paid his dues in the independents.
@kazallroberts
Жыл бұрын
@@jmferr2011 Yup
@namikstudios
Жыл бұрын
@@jmferr2011 yeah I feel like Arquette has earned that reign after the fact. He'd a good guy and a fan of the industry too. It's certainly better than Vince McMahon giving himself both the WWF and ECW titles, that's for sure.
@MPHswayze
Жыл бұрын
@@jmferr2011🤓
The Fact that the Blood Botch happened not once, but twice is classic End of the Road WCW. Hilarious and sad.
@stinkyfish8357
10 ай бұрын
I love how Nash just stands there and looks at it and ain’t even act surprised
@Nick_T_90
7 ай бұрын
@@stinkyfish8357he was right in the middle of the ring the best spot to aim so that might have actually been the plan which makes it 100x funnier
@OGREChad
4 ай бұрын
I've always been convinced either it was intentional by everyone, or Nash got word ahead of hand, worked with the guys setting things up and set up the miss.
@KamT91
4 ай бұрын
Him walking over to the blood splash mid power bomb made it funnier 😂.
@thegoldfly1
3 ай бұрын
I think they should have done it another time or two, I mean after screwing it up like that just make it a running joke instead.
Have you noticed that most of these incidents had something to do with Vince Russo.... I agree the company was already going downhill but he completely screwed it to the wall.
@creoleDJ
Жыл бұрын
You took the words right out of my….uh….KEYBOARD! 🤣🤣 Also, look up “the worst moments in WWF history” and almost half that list includes Russo-related angles. Coincidence? I think not, bro!
@absolutez3r019
Жыл бұрын
@@creoleDJ McMahon and Prichard have come up with angles and gimmicks that would make Russo blush. Nobody bats a hundred, but Russo isn't nearly as bad as the internet make him out to be
@creoleDJ
Жыл бұрын
@@absolutez3r019 as Bruce Prichard once said: “We ALL have bad ideas.” And I’ll say here what I’ve said on other similar posts: for all their bullshit, I can at least halfway respect Bischoff, Cornette, Prichard, et al for admitting & owning their bullshit & screwups. Russo, however, blames everyone outside of God for his bullshit. He doesn’t want to take ownership of ANYTHING wrong he comes up with, and that is why he gets so much heat like he does.
@absolutez3r019
Жыл бұрын
@creoleDJ what idea has Russo passed the buck on? Other than the Oklahoma gimmick, what else? He has also apologized to JR and JR has accepted the apology
@creoleDJ
Жыл бұрын
@@absolutez3r019 I’m not going through all of it, but he “passed the buck” on the Brawl For All, even on this clip he blamed his idea of Goldberg’s heel turn flop on Goldberg, he once blamed the fans for not understanding the Beaver Cleavage angle (NOT the fact that the angle sucked), etc.
I like how Russo's excuses for his failures always boil down to "Yeah but if it had worked, it would've worked."
@themonsterunderyourbed9408
4 ай бұрын
It would have!
@zacharyradford5552
5 күн бұрын
No it wouldn’t have.
‘’Bro, it wasn’t that bad bro.’’ - Vince Russo
@l2jnichol1986
Жыл бұрын
Every time Russo says bro, I just want to punch him right in the throat.
@aleiterful
Жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@CarolinaBlood704
Жыл бұрын
*BRO!*
@M._mkid
Жыл бұрын
Vince Russo and Matt Riddle would be a great tag team
@brucelucasjr5856
Жыл бұрын
You didn't say Bro enough for it to be convincing
The Finger Poke of Doom did have one bit of silver lining and that was it featured the absolute best bump that Kevin Nash had ever taken in his entire career that did not involve him getting injured
@foxfireinferno197
Жыл бұрын
I was half expecting him to scream "OW! MY QUADS!" as soon as he hit the mat.
@Insidious_Rage
Жыл бұрын
The Fingerpoke of Doom wasnt bad, its what happened in 2 months after.
@chryssmetzler2098
Жыл бұрын
I have a idiot step brother who only watched wcw and never wwf and I had to watch the finger poke of doom. While mankind won the wwf champion from the rock.
@Cobane823
Жыл бұрын
@@chryssmetzler2098 bro you didn’t have a remote control? lol I was literally flipping back n forth every 30 seconds lmao “the good ol days “
@EphPhaThaINC
Жыл бұрын
@@Cobane823 and you’re absolutely right about the disrespect of the bump, much like Michaels had done to Hogan at Summerslam 05 years later. I mean, starcade 98, Nash, the baby face going up against the unbeaten top babyface, Goldberg, Nash was head booker at that time. Positions himself to dethrone Goldberg and win the world title. Now the following night on Nitro, after they remove Goldberg from the rematch and all of a sudden, here comes Hulk Hogan and using his 100% creative control clause and tells Nash pretty much “hey Nash, guess what, I’m back from not running for president, and we are going to put the title back on me in the queerest match ever right after you just won it, and we are going to do it via a finger poke and a cover, doesn’t that sound fun?” Of course Nash plays ball and does the job to Hogan, but now that you bring up the fact that he oversold, I see the disrespect, yeah I think that you are onto something.
You could probably give an honorable mention to the ending of the 1998 Halloween Havoc PPV. Which resulted in thousands of customers to miss the ending of the Goldberg Vs. DDP match because the pay per view went over it’s time limit. Forcing customers to ask for a refund and showing the entire match for free on the next episode of Nitro. That is where I really believe the end was coming.
@razielvonwaig7572
Жыл бұрын
It’s ironic also because they blacked out one of the best matches I ever saw.
@onewarriornation602
Жыл бұрын
That is one of MANY issues I would point to for sure. I would say that one, plus WCW on several occasions starting the Main Event 5 min before the show is going off the air to lead into some TNT special with the promises of "we will keep bringing you the action during the commercial breaks!" Which they never did, constant production mistakes etc. Internet lore from clueless fucking morons like Bryan Alvarez have created a narrative that has been built into mythology but as someone who was a massive WCW fan, who was speaking with other WCW fans at the time, the consensus back then was.... As the WWF got better WCW started coming off as second rate with everything. Storylines were constantly recycled, entrance music was constantly recycled, production values were 🗑️, they would cheat you on PPV's and the above mentioned TV crap, talent nor feuds nor storylines ever progressed etc. So did several million other fans. The big problem? We never tuned back in. I didn't even bother taping Nitro going forward because of that stunt and because they reformed the nWo. I thought The Wolfpac was cool and had a ton of promise. Truth be told WCW had the talent to never lose the ratings War, and to retake the ratings War after losing it. Fix the above issues and start pushing some other talent. Instead Creative was too scared to abandon the nWo well and kept going back to it trying to recapture that magic.
@boot_boy_6945
Жыл бұрын
It does reek of unprofessionalism. Not even being able to fit into basic time constraints is pretty low. There’s been times in the WWE where it looked like they were going to run over, but the wrestlers there always knew how to improvise to get things done in time.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
10 ай бұрын
That would definitely make a top 100 mistakes list, but not top 10. I watched the full PVV on Cablevision, but heard the next day some didn't get it. Which was odd cause Time Warner cable was owner Ted's company as well. Anyway, there were lots of small mistakes. This blogger had even discussed Starcade 97 as 2 of them. However, WCW still was 30 million dollars in profits in 1998. 1999 lost millions of dollars.I forgot the exact number, whether 10 or 20 million in losses. 2000 lost a ridiculous and unacceptable amount of money. Again I forget the exact number but this time it was hundreds of millions of dollars in loses. Which ultimately is why no one wanted to keep WCW, and McMahon bought it. Edit: WCW lost 9 million in 1999
@PoorMansInvesting
9 ай бұрын
They shouldn't be scheduling 3+ hour PPV's anyway
The blood missing Kevin Nash sounds like something straight out of This is Spinal Tap
Can't lie missing that Blood Spot Twice...FN Hilarious. 🤣
@zanethind
Жыл бұрын
Yeah lol
@johnsmith-po9gt
Жыл бұрын
You just know Nash noped out and took two steps to the right haha
@EssexAggiegrad2011
Жыл бұрын
"Red viscous fluid"
@nehemiahpouncey3607
Жыл бұрын
Pretty much mocking the brood bath.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
Жыл бұрын
Wonder what the brood thought About that?
Nash just standing there watching the blood dropping on the ring is probably one of the funniest things I saw from WCW clips, I can just hear him sigh "oh god..."
@blachubear
Жыл бұрын
I bet you Russo & Nash told that guy "You have one fucking job to do, ONE JOB and you missed!!! Don't do it again". HAHAHAHA!!!
@NoxilNobody
Жыл бұрын
@@blachubear and then he did it again
@RNCV-uf7wu
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was hilarious, he was like "wtf?" 🤣
@richardjfromthebay9156
Жыл бұрын
And yet he was part of the problem with WCWs downfall
@nehemiahpouncey3607
Жыл бұрын
They were poking fun at the brood Bath from WWF.😂
The Fingerpoke of Doom, "That'll put butts in the seats", David Arquette, the championship reboot, it was one disastrous idea after another. That January 4th episode was, in fact, the last episode of Nitro I watched live ( I was one of those people that had immediately switch to Raw upon Tony's announcement). After that, I taped Nitro every week, until I just completely stopped watching WCW altogether by the end of 99. I did attend the 2000 SuperBrawl, as I only lived a few miles from the Cow Palace, and I figured. what the hell, I might as well.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
10 ай бұрын
I totally felt similar vibes. I remember living for Monday nights then not caring. I had a friend who would tell me what was happening. Sometimes I would watch what he taped.
The one good that came out of the Arquette title run was him giving all the money he earned to the widows of Owen Hart and Brian Pillman, and the families of the deceased Bobby Duncum Jr. and quadriplegic Darren Drozdov. That makes up for the idiocy of his title run.
the day russo was hired was the beginning of the end of wcw
@ChrisWolff2013
Жыл бұрын
It was already dying a death even before Russo got there.
@darrelladams4188
Жыл бұрын
Turner AOL Time Warner merger was the first ‘ nail in the coffin ‘
@mlungzak5818
Жыл бұрын
Vince Russo saved WWF with the attitude era & killed WCW to destroy the Monday Night Wars.
@absolutez3r019
Жыл бұрын
@@mlungzak5818 Jamie Kellner killed WCW and no-one else
@ShaunInce123
Жыл бұрын
That's a misconception & most of that was peddled by the likes of Meltzer & Alvarez
Rest In Peace Judy Bagwell ❤🙏
@chadharger9323
Жыл бұрын
That was the height of FRICKIN' STUPIDITY AND IRRESPONSIBILITY! Did it dawn on that mental midget Russo to put SAFETY RAILS on the platform she stood on? Some of the stuff that was done during that time was stupid and flat out dangerous! Putting Sting a wire? Did WCW forget what happened to OWEN HART?!
@winzfeld1
Жыл бұрын
On a pole
@jessieisaiah6
Жыл бұрын
@@winzfeld1 forklift*
@charleswhipple8640
Ай бұрын
@@jessieisaiah6no actually rip Judy in real life
The more I watch videos like this depicting the worst WCW moments and their eventual downfall, the more the conspiracy of Russo being sent there to destroy the company from the inside seems valid.
@lefterisatheras5918
Жыл бұрын
Naaaaah, it is more like after everyone in WWE realised how stupid Shitstain (aka Russo) is, they decided to let him go when the other stupid people (like Bischoff) wanted to get him. Shitstain being Shitstain just did what he knows thing we knows how to do...
@jasonmartinson7758
Жыл бұрын
Russo killed WCW
@user-dy2op3yf6t
Жыл бұрын
R.i.p wcw 🙏😭😭
@jtboss8139
Жыл бұрын
@@lefterisatheras5918 yea ok Jim. Lol. Russo made the attitude Era happen. So I don't mind him when he was in WWE. Jim was just a jealous weirdo about wrestling and still holds a grudge to this day which is really sad.
@CHIIIEEEEEEEEFFFFSSS
Жыл бұрын
Simpler solution is that Russo is just a moron who got very lucky.
I was at the Thunder where Arquette won the title. I called him winning as soon as he was inserted in that tag match and my friends didn't believe me. The crowd took a huge crap on it and tossed trash in the ring afterward.
@themadrapper101
Жыл бұрын
Arquette has better Mic skills than Roman Reigns. If only he knew how to wrestle. And by wrestle I don't mean flip around and super kick for a half hour like a USO or Young Buck. The ratings were higher during that time over current WWE
@youtubemember1115
Жыл бұрын
I had a feeling arquette would win the title shortly after seeing him on the nitro before
@kendall6515
Жыл бұрын
@@themadrapper101 everything had higher ratings then because internet just got started and we don’t have phones and stuff like now. If we were like we were then. Ratings would be way higher than wcw.
@themadrapper101
Жыл бұрын
@@kendall6515 Still a fact double the amount of people were watching during the Attitude era than now. If you argue or debate that then you must of not were around then cause it was the hottest thing going for a few years and Stone Cold was a big reason for that. The nWo, Goldberg, The Rock, ECW. Everyone was watching definitely not debateable. Even if WWE's in a better place now than it was a few year's ago doesn't mean it's as hot as it was in 99 lol
@themadrapper101
Жыл бұрын
@@kendall6515 wrestling was better off without the internet
Isn't this really just Vince Russo's 10 worst ideas?
@fattiger6957
Жыл бұрын
Bischoff was co-leader of WCW with Russo for at least a few months. He was there and went along with Russo's stupid ideas.
@raymondhopwood9393
Жыл бұрын
The worst idea was hiring that jerk in the first place. Say what you want about Vince McMahon, but firing him was one of the smartest things he ever did. Then WCW turned around and hired him?! Talk about a Dumb Decision!
@quentinkaasa47
Жыл бұрын
@@raymondhopwood9393 McMahon didn't fire Russo though. Russo took the job with WCW without giving McMahon a heads up.
@wintertrooper7918
Жыл бұрын
@@raymondhopwood9393 Vince was a pretty big deal when he was fires it was seem as a win for scw to pick him up
@scottaznavourian3720
Жыл бұрын
Fingerppke of doom was well before russo
The overhaul in 1999 officially ended WCW.
@TRJ2241987
Жыл бұрын
I loved WCW for years. But it got to the point where I preferred watching Joey Abs matches.
@WideHarryCock
Жыл бұрын
No it was the fact that they didn’t have anything to follow NWO…if Bishoff doesn’t strike on that NWO idea in the mid 90s WCW would’ve been defunct by the late 90s
@kazallroberts
Жыл бұрын
@@TRJ2241987The overhaul could have worked if the booking wasn't way too over-exaggerated and OTT.
Poor Tony Schiavone having to say Tank had pulled a pair of scissors and was trying to shave Big Al’s beard was remarkably quick thinking yet one of the stupidest outright lies ever cos you could clearly hear Tank threatening to kill the guy 😂😂
@Rith9789
4 ай бұрын
Did either of them ever speak out about what the hell that was actually about?
@allthatisandeverwas
4 ай бұрын
@@Rith9789Tank Abbott being Tank Abbott
Number 1 rule, never let Vince Russo book your shows
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
10 ай бұрын
Also, never let wrestlers control bouts, plots, or finances.
You guys nailed this list. These were the 10 worst moments from that period of time.
@M._mkid
Жыл бұрын
Suggestion for lamia 10 Times wwe ruined the mitb
@AlbertoGonzalez-xn1lw
Жыл бұрын
Forgot the demon angle
@quentinkaasa47
Жыл бұрын
IDK He left out the Stacy Keibler pregnancy / miscarriage angle.
@juliusjones2487
Жыл бұрын
You forgot about Master P!
@kshinokevin
9 ай бұрын
@@AlbertoGonzalez-xn1lw - Dale Torborg was the KISS Demon. like the expensive entrance for a guy like Glacier = the "Blood Runs Cold' angle never took off, unfortunately; not Mortis (Chris "who bettah than" Kanyon) or Wrath (Adam Bomb); (the "Kona") Crush (Brian Adams, not the singer Bryan Adams)''s partner in Kronik.
“A leather jacket on a pole match” 😂😂
@nehemiahpouncey3607
Жыл бұрын
They were making pole matches up As they went. Viagra on a pole. Judy bagwell(buffs mom) on a pole. Actually it was a forklift nevermind.
@creoleDJ
Жыл бұрын
Buff’s mom on a forklift, Viagra on a pole…🤦🏽♂️
@johnnypaella1965
Жыл бұрын
Pure coke these ideas
@SiTengoHambre
Жыл бұрын
@@johnnypaella1965 there were more coke heads between the 80’s and early 2000’s
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
10 ай бұрын
A pole on a pole match 😂
From what I remember, the Goldberg window thing may have played out differently. He apparently had a little window breaker in his hand when he attacked the limo, but when he broke out the driver's window, he accidentally dropped it inside, so he had to continue with just his fists. That's why the following window took a little more mustard to break, and Goldberg ended up cutting himself.
@newagain9964
8 ай бұрын
Goldberg ain’t too smart. 😂
@robertbouley7697
4 ай бұрын
This is believable because it has Goldberg fudging something up.
@chadhOneAtl
4 ай бұрын
Goldberg was a liability. He wasn’t a wrestler by trade and many of the people like hogan said he often made bad mistakes that got people hurt.
@michaelross1452
Ай бұрын
@@chadhOneAtlHe was a wrassler .
Back between 99-01, I always thought that Vince McMahon sent Vince Russo to kill WCW and I do believe that is exactly what happened.
@terrancefoster6613
Жыл бұрын
Facts he did these matches made no fucking sense 😂😂😂
@flexbori
Жыл бұрын
Russo actually made WCW better. Booker T became HW champ, Hogan who was a cancer got exposed and canned. Introduced new stables that had good runs and Steiner was giving his best moments in wcw during Russo run. for every bad idea, there's a good idea. Vince McMahon had worse ideas that needed to get filtered. Before Russo, WWF was Doink the Clown, and other cartoony characters. WWF had its lowest ratings until McMahon gave Cornettes job to Russo. Also WCW ratings went up with Russo. the numbers dont lie. the only thing that was bad was the gimmick matches. Booker T, Austin, Rock and Mick Foley all credit Russo. Russo was behind pushing these guys as the #1 and it paid off well. people cry about Russo but do you realize how bad WWE was in 2001 with Stephanie taking creative control? there's worse creative than Russo and it's not even close. When you compare Russo to today's writing, anything in 2001 to 2020, it makes Russo look better than his accomplishments. If you dont remember what WWF was like before Russo took a role, then just drop out of the discussing and admit you heard a Cornette podcast and you're copying and pasting what entertained you.
@BabaHamoudy
Жыл бұрын
I believe this
@xxSKAGhosTxx
Жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette makes it clear this was a happy little accident for Vince, because Russo joined wcw without telling wwf. Vince started listening to him and he had a few good ideas that helped create the attitude Era, but there was just a few grains of genius in a dumpster full of trash ideas and Vince cherry picked what he liked. Maybe it was on purpose, but Vince probably knew he would do bad business if left to his own ideas without supervision.
@Aaron-kj8dv
Жыл бұрын
@@xxSKAGhosTxx Apparently that's how George Lucas wrote Star Wars. It was a great idea but too off the rails so his associates reeled him in and it became a huge success. Some people are just like that.
put vince russo on a pole so high no one would want to climb it and he couldnt get down by himself.
The Fingerpoke of Doom & every episode of WcW Thunder in 99-01
@Megastar_Tye
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@mkproductions2.042
Жыл бұрын
I loved the finger poke & 99 era of thunder but after that I felt that was when it got really bad.
@kazallroberts
Жыл бұрын
Yup
@cliffordjackson3
Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget about how many times the world heavyweight championship was vacated or changed hands.
@kazallroberts
Жыл бұрын
@@cliffordjackson3 Yeah
The slow fast count on Sting was the fatal snake bite. From that point, all the power and momentum that had been built was deflated. The venom took a while but it did the job.
@ramiramadan15
11 ай бұрын
100%
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
10 ай бұрын
You can make a big mistake and recover, or a few small mistakes...but you can't make lots of small mistakes and several big mistakes. Starcade 97 alone or the finger poke of doom itself didn't end WCW. The problem is they didn't fix enough. The 2 things they had strongest inv1998, Goldberg and DDP, they bsck peddled away from in 1999.
@garydelong7750
7 ай бұрын
When 90% of your characters wear jeans and a T-shirt you basically have all the same character, very bland.
@RedfishCarolina
7 ай бұрын
@@garydelong7750 Yes, exactly.
@achromatic1
3 ай бұрын
I would've also included that moment in this list. Talent had way too much creative control in WCW (looking at you NWO).
What I remember was that 3 stacked cage match in WCW. That was crazy.
It should come as no surprise to anyone that Vince Russo's idiocy dominated this list, because the day they hired Russo was the beginning of the end for WCW.
@absolutez3r019
Жыл бұрын
The day AOL and Time-warrner merged was the beinging of the end. And Jamie Kellner was the one who killed it ,not Russo
@adamirishconundrum851
Жыл бұрын
Russo's father should have pulled out
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
10 ай бұрын
@@absolutez3r019 WTF is Kelner? Wait...who cares! Fact is, if WCW didn't have the financial loses they did in 1999 and worse in 2000 people probably would have wanted to keep it. So that being said, who is responsible for bad ratings and profits? Let's see... Eric Bishof, Bill Busch, Kevin Nash, and Ted Turner.
Booker t being wcw champion the first time was lit tho. I loved it
How Vince Russo, who clearly has nothing but disdain for pro wrestling, ended up calling the shots in WCW is mind boggling....
@chriskay1449
11 ай бұрын
Had disdain? The dude was a big key in WWE's attitude era. HE didn't have a disdain. He had a different vision which had very mixed results.
@JaiBlevins1974
10 ай бұрын
He was a mediocre writer, with a couple of good ideas. As soon as he had full creative control, he demonstrated why he was just a writer at WWF.
@midniteee
9 ай бұрын
@@JaiBlevins1974He wasn't just a writer. He was the head of their entire creative department through the attitude era lol. But I think by the time he took over at WCW his ego had gotten the better of him and his story lines got more and more out of touch with what the fans wanted.
@midniteee
9 ай бұрын
@@JaiBlevins1974His background is actually quite interesting tbh. Different people in the wrestling industry seem to have polar opposite opinions of him. From high praise by The Rock, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles to absolute disdain by Ric Flair and Eric Bishoff. One things for sure though, he was no small time writer. He was the head writer for WWF from 97 to 99 and he had a massive influence on the overall increase in storylines and dramatisation in the wrestling throughout the 90s.
@JaiBlevins1974
9 ай бұрын
@midnitethegreat I get that. But he still had to run everything past Vince, in the WWF. WCW gave him full control. Without someone to keep him in check, ALL of his ideas were given the green light, and we saw how that turned out.
Goldberg wasn't off script. The pipe slid over and he decided to keep going for it. He's talked about this multiple times.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, and you can actually see it then he looks down at it. His face is like "opps... but fk it I'm still strong enough to do this.....oh no ouch it hurts."
@alexmartin3143
4 ай бұрын
Yes good sir but i dare say bleeding to death was not in the script…
@sainwolf2
4 ай бұрын
@@alexmartin3143 I must have missed that part of the episode. could of sworn he was still alive and kicking.
RIP WCW ❤😢
@ChrisWolff2013
Жыл бұрын
Nobody to blame but themselves
@kazallroberts
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisWolff2013Yup
@Natanyahu
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisWolff2013 why did they die?
@kazallroberts
Жыл бұрын
@@NatanyahuBackstage Politics & Creativity
The most worst blunder of wcw is Sighning vince Russo
Fun fact: the Judy Bagwell on a Pole Match was the best match of that night 😆
I love how they keep saying the blood missed Nash... as if it wasn't Nash who missed the blood.
The fingerpoke of doom was the beginning of the end
@Insidious_Rage
Жыл бұрын
No, its what happened in 2 months after. Was what did it
@adamirishconundrum851
Жыл бұрын
Bitchoffs permanent boner for the NWO ruined WCW
@Insidious_Rage
Жыл бұрын
@@adamirishconundrum851 lol, shows that u know nothing about wcw lol. Or the backstory of what happeed in 99 and 2000. Typical noob
That blood spot botch was hilarious 😂
@nehemiahpouncey3607
Жыл бұрын
Wonder how folk didn't know they were Poking fun at the brood's brood bath?
@nehemiahpouncey3607
Жыл бұрын
Two mockery's of the brood bath?
The leather jacket on a pole at Superbrawl wasn't Russo's idea, Sullivan had already taken over the writing team by that point. Russo and Bischoff would famously return that spring, but this wasn't his. Judy on a pole, however...
What’s worse in all of this is it tainted the first World Championship run of Booker T who, considering his struggles in life and prison, should have been celebrated better than those circumstances.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
10 ай бұрын
WCW didn't give so many their dues
@bd9299292
10 ай бұрын
Always liked Booker T, but his championship run was too little, too late by that point.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
10 ай бұрын
@@bd9299292 but that's WCW
@anonamatron
3 ай бұрын
I like Booker T, but why should we like him because of "struggles with prison"? That makes me like him less, not more. I never went to prison, so I think you should celebrate me more than someone who did.
@rmrbush
Ай бұрын
I liked Booker T, I felt he was one of the best athletes in wrestling. I was glad he got a good run in WWE and Booker T / Golddust was comedy gold.@@anonamatron
I enjoyed the Goldberg vs Sting matches in WCW
In '97 I remember watching with my Dad, flipping back and forth between WCW and WWE(then WWF). By 1999 we might have checked once a Nitro. By 2000 we never changed WWE.
@Chris55433
10 ай бұрын
It went from: Watch Nitro watch Nitro, tape Raw watch Raw, tape Nitro watch Raw
@zephaniah666
10 ай бұрын
@@Apoll0Spade 2002 really was not bad at alllll
I remember being a kid and realizing in early 2000 how the WCW product had changed. And yet, despite all the corporate fallout from the AOL-Time Warner merger, it seems like WCW could have pulled the nose up from a creative standpoint.
This isn't related..but Nash looked so badass when the blood missed him
@nehemiahpouncey3607
Жыл бұрын
Blood botch>brood bath.
@franklinmardy8171
Жыл бұрын
At least he no sold it, the best part of that angle
@nehemiahpouncey3607
Жыл бұрын
@@franklinmardy8171 nash was like why Yawl dump this pile of horses*it On me?😂
@franklinmardy8171
Жыл бұрын
@@nehemiahpouncey3607 Nash was so cool and one of the reasons why WCW was successful before Russo came in the picture, I feel so bad for him
@nehemiahpouncey3607
Жыл бұрын
@@franklinmardy8171 whatever you do Don't bring up his wizard gimmick.😂
Vince Russo loves his pole matches!
That blood missing the mark twice had me losing it LOL
It's hard to remember now just how cool and New the nWo angle was when it started. It genuinely made WWE feel ancient and out of touch. Sadly the prolonged death of that angle and the ridiculous things they did have soiled them. Nowhere near as bad, but the constant DX reunions they did after Shawn left in 98 soiled the legacy of that too, but nothing to the degree of the nWo. We'd still pop seeing a DX reunion now, as we did, but even if Hall was still alive, any pop would always have been just for him.
@Insidious_Rage
Жыл бұрын
Your nuts, true nWo fans dont believe nWo legacy died. Its still by far the apex of stables. Done by 3 of the most influential and talented performers in wrestling. WCW only died cause the idiots replaced Bischoff in 1999 with Russo and Ferrara. The AOL merger is what really killed WCW thougj as they hates wrestling and didnt believe it was prine time worthy and cut the budget to almost nothing. Even when Bischoff was about to buy WCW here came Time Warner/AOL to say well were taking it off tnt and tbs which caused Bischoffs investors to back out. The Fingerpoke of Doom is a noobs answer to why WCW died. Its something that those who know nothing about the business and wcw internally use as a point. Do your own research people and you will see wcw didnt die. It was INTENTIONALLY wiped out.
@rodneywaugh8535
Жыл бұрын
The NWO was truly the best angle at the very beginning and had they stayed with maybe four or maybe even five members at the absolute most they could have run that thing for years and years... Problem is when you've got 20 or 30 members that you just kind of lose the uniqueness and lose what makes it so good to begin with!
@tbfcrypto3595
Жыл бұрын
@@Insidious_Rage I think the Bloodline might want to speak with you.
@Insidious_Rage
Жыл бұрын
@@tbfcrypto3595 lol ok kid, the bloodline dont have 5% of the popularity the nWo had lol. Ah little kids
@SuperCrazyPsycho731
Жыл бұрын
@@tbfcrypto3595 bloodline is nowhere near and never will be a fraction of the draw the NWO was. Sting and the NWO were everywhere in that era. This was a time when you would have trouble finding someone who didn't watch wrestling. Low ratings are the norm now and you lost the casuals. They're never coming back. I don't blame them. They're watching UFC like they should.
I remember it got so bad. There was so little oversight as things fell apart that Scott Steiner got to just do whatever he wanted, and as much as I enjoyed his work he was not smart or sane. His rambling offensive rants were almost sad if not simply funny. I personally liked WCW more than WWF in the early days of the Monday Night Wars but when it got to 99 it was just getting sad. Stone Cold owned the show and there was no competing with him.
@brandonjacobs7011
Жыл бұрын
His promos were on the scale of The Ultimate Warrior
@foxfireinferno197
Жыл бұрын
I remember a female interviewer gave a quick recap of recent Steiner events then asked "What's going down?" Steiner replied "What's going down? You, tonight, in my hotel room." The interviewer just looked at the camera with an expression that screamed "I have nobody to blame but myself."
@Kaitri
Жыл бұрын
Reading this comment i wish i was born earlier lol
@deathmetal11111
Жыл бұрын
WTF are you talking about. Steiner's promos and actions in WCW at the time were epic and hilarious. The best thing about the entire show. Steiner is smart and sane, and you're just jealous because he went to a highly educated university.
@davidaulds7031
Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, Terry Taylor, John Laurinaitis, Mike Teney, and Tony Schiavone, Kevin Sullivan and to a point Ed Farrara were running the Booking Committee from mid March 2000 till Febuary 2001. I Truly thought with the removal of Russo the product was getting better honestly. Otherwise will disagree, but I saw a change for the better.
In this modern generation of Pro Wrestling NXT gives me the old WCW vibes where as AEW gives me the old ECW vibes which actually feels pretty great!! 🔥😎
I have a shorter list. Vince Russo, HULK Hogan, Kevin Nash, Eric Bishoff and Goldbers win streak. That's it brother
@wfow1448
Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of those, but the Goldberg win streak was one of the best things in wrestling at the time. Goldberg was legit one of the most over characters at the highest point of his streak, and it only ended because of a creative control clause. I agree Goldberg's streak needed to end at some point, but it should have gone to someone that needed the win to get over.
@danman6669
Жыл бұрын
The win streak was awesome. If only it ended better.
@danmason6116
Жыл бұрын
I agree a 💯 Goldberg was part of it
@Seriously_Unserious
Жыл бұрын
The Goldberg win streak would eventually have had to come to an end, but earlier in the streak, they seemed to be building up to a weakness of Goldberg being somewhat vulnerable to mat wrestling and submission holds. They played off his struggle against Steven (William) Regal and ran a series vs Jerry Flynn, where Flynn would make the matches more competitive then the usual Goldberg match of the era by forcing Goldberg to trade holds for the first couple of minutes, with the announcers even starting to comment on how Flynn's mat wrestling approach seemed to be slowing Goldberg down. I felt this was being planned as a setup for a submission wrestler to eventually be built up to defeat Goldberg by submissions. Like maybe Jericho or Benoit to get one of them over, or Sting or Hart to build up a rivalry between them and Goldberg and keep their long time talent at the top. But that never happened, instead just dropping that story line and going with the tazer finish instead.
@westcoastnative2523
Жыл бұрын
The problem with Goldberg's win streak was the way it ended. It ended in BS. I could've came up with a more creative idea than that.
There was a time right before this that WCW was ahead of WWE in innovation and entertainment, and then suddenly the wheels fell right off and it went into a trash filled ditch on fire almost overnight.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
10 ай бұрын
Cause WCW,was doing the same old stuff. Hogan as champion again. fake applause: "yay"
Arquette falling through the stage was the icing on the wcw cake. 😂
I once thought that people were being too hard on Russo. But after years of watching videos and listening to podcasts by various people, including Russo, I come to the conclusion that he has been getting off easy.
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot
Жыл бұрын
Definitely mate. The guys a mark for himself. Never wrong and it’s always someone else’s fault
I've wondered some over the years if Russo's hiring at dubya-c-dubya wasn't more than Vinnie Mac inserting a mole to kill his immediate competition from the inside out.
For me the finger poke of doom was the beginning of the end. It was a giant middle finger to the fans and to the industry. It made the world title worthless and killed Goldberg's momentum. The company told the fans "You like Goldberg? Too bad we're doing 1996 again." It was no longer about growing the company; it was about the inmates using WCW as their personal playground.
eric bischoff was an idiot for making rey to remove his mask
@leximille6801
Жыл бұрын
He disrespects every masked luchador
@danieldrayet2364
Жыл бұрын
He did it to juvi and psychosis too
@leximille6801
Жыл бұрын
@@danieldrayet2364 now I'm even more angry at easy e
@danieldrayet2364
Жыл бұрын
@@leximille6801 juvi was actually the 1st one to lose the mask
@leximille6801
Жыл бұрын
@@danieldrayet2364 and easy "to get angry at" e wonders why njpw stopped working with them
I forgot about the 2nd botched blood spot….holy hell.
One of the best dark side of the ring episodes I watched was about the backyard wrestling and David Arquette experiencing near death. To be fair, he wasn't the only one who came close to dying.
@kshinokevin
9 ай бұрын
the Nick Gage match (in GCW ?)
The weird thing is, as poor as WCW was during the Russo & Ferrara era, I still preferred watching that over the Mcmahon Helmsley era. I found the latter a bit dull and got comic relief from it by watching WCW around that time. Heenan was on good comedy form around then too. They were bringing in new talent as well. It was still all too goofy to survive though.
@TomCruz54321
Ай бұрын
Yeah unfortunately we live in a binary era. HHH's good work with NXT has caused people to forget how awful and boring the HHH reign of terror was. Only a tiny minority of the fans have the brain to recognize HHH's positive contribution to NXT and also recognize how boring and repetitive all those McMahon-Helmsley feuds were.
Goldberg bashing his arm on the car window back then was crazy 😱
@rolandobaluja7504
Жыл бұрын
Let's see Goldberg has been a danger to himself on at least two occasions with what he did in Saudi Arabia bashing his head on purpose and what he's done with hitting a car window with his hand back in WCW. His negligence cause for heart's career to be prematurely ended. Goldberg's negligence almost severely hurt the Undertaker. But yet people want to continue to honor this guy
@adamirishconundrum851
Жыл бұрын
Roid rage is real
@TropicalPriest
11 ай бұрын
A window punch is like $12, the guy is a moron.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
10 ай бұрын
@@rolandobaluja7504 Not many honor Goldberg. His popularity was & is over exaggerated. Bret himself said he felt WCW was more responsible letting an untrained guy do those moves.
@rolandobaluja7504
10 ай бұрын
@@CurlyFromTheSwirly but he is the best example of if you hyped someone untrained enough they will definitely rice the top imagine if they would have done that with someone like Dan Severn, tears, Steve Blackman, Dean malenko or great wrestlers
Basically, when the fingerpoke of doom happened it was the end of WCW. And yeah, don't forget about Vince Russo, another big mistake.
@fattiger6957
Жыл бұрын
WCW was already circling the drain long before the Fingerpoke. That was just the culmination of all the stupidity
@achromatic1
3 ай бұрын
I would argue that it started in Starrcade 97 with the Sting vs Hogan match ending, and ended with the fingerpoke of doom. The rest after that was just like watching a fish flop out of water until it passed.
Who remembers Hacksaw Jim Duggan swing a 2x4 that didn't even remotely look real? It was flopping around the whole time. I remember it being really close to the end of WcW.
@johndawhale3197
Жыл бұрын
LOL !!!
Using Scott halls real life addictions as a story line should have been on here
@jnkazee2526
Жыл бұрын
Man that was terrible
@TomCruz54321
Ай бұрын
Didn't WWE do that with Jeff Hardy?
Jim Cornette has always said it best about Vince Russo. He can come up with 500 ideas at the blink of an eye, but only 1-2 of those make any logical sense if crafted in the correct way as someone with the creative mind of Vince McMahon can. So Russo succeeded in WWE because he would just spew all this nonsense at Vince McMahon but Vince had the control and creative mind to craft the idea in a way that would actually work. In WCW that element didn't exist and you saw Russo unfiltered and unmonitored. The results should surprise no one.
And that Nash blood spot, the first one was absolutely blatantly Nash deliberately not standing in the right place.
The Monday Night War and The Rise and Fall of WCW dvd/documentary are really good to watch.
the finger poke was absolutely BS. waste my whole night just to stay up watching that match.
RIP Scott Hall
I grew up in Atlanta, home of Turner sports and WCW so I was always on the WCW side of the Monday night wars. I loved WCW and for a couple of years I genuinely thought it was better than WWF but the last couple of years were just sad. 🤦🏿♂️
#2 should be #1. That episode of Nitro was the single most devastating episode to WCW ever. This is what killed WCW, not Nash beating Goldberg. It was actually a small pop when Nash won Big Gold belt & Wolfpac were over AF. But Finger Poke of Doom & telling the audience about a title change happening all on the same episode has to be #1. If it's #2 then u can only put AOL/Time Warner merger ahead of that🤷🏾♂️
When I started watching wrestling as a wee child around 6 years old I was all about Sting and the WCW! Then ‘99 arrived and I was 10 and even then I saw the ridiculous, almost farcical and inept writing and booking that ultimately doomed a once great, innovative and creative product! The once can’t miss Nitro that help change the industry was now can’t miss like watching a terrible train wreck was!!! Combine that with the rise of DX and The Attitude Era entering its Prime I switched loyalties to WWE! Honestly it was the Halloween Havoc PPV that ran over time causing the Main Event between DDP and Goldberg to not air live that closed the coffin for me on WCW! Even as a kid I understood that a huge company like WCW botching one of the years biggest shows was an obvious sign that trouble was afoot and the WWE would ultimately end up conquering all during the glory days of the Monday Night Wars!!!
I really miss WCW. Unfortunate that it fell apart the way it did.
Bash at the Beach 2000 had to happen, Russo was 100% correct about Hogan. Hogan wouldn't play ball in any respect, Starrcade 97 is a Prime Example of this, I don't care what kind of Shape Sting was in, Physically, Mental, or otherwise, you don't through a year and a half of build up down the drain and not have Sting win Clean! Furthurmore having Bret Hart as Special Ref was STUPID in every respect!
Till this day i still find it hilarious the line "that will put butts on seats"🤣🤣
There's some debate on whether the best year in WWE history was 98, 99, or 2000. Most seem to go with 2000 but I go with 98 because both companies were on fire, the war was still pretty much up for grabs, and things were still just heating up. By 99 WCW was already on life support and in 2000 they were completely phoning it in.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
10 ай бұрын
1998 was a great year ... for fans, for WCW, for both federations as competition. For WCW it had DDP & Goldberg as rising stars, and the nWo was still cool. The company was still making money.
@reubensandwich9249
10 ай бұрын
It was 1998. The Mankind and Undertaker cage match, The Rock becoming the future star.
I've been watching the "Reliving the Wars" and other timeline content by Wrestling Bios, and WWF pulled the JR thing before WCW did.
I was done with WCW when they broke up Outsiders at the Slamboree PPV (I think it was Slamboree). I was there in attendance. As far as I was concerned the Monday Night Wars was over and WWF won.
I was watching at the time, and thought the thing with David Arquette was hilarious. And it made sense as a short-lived tie-in to promote the WCW movie, Ready to Rumble. Thematically, I don't see it as much different than WWE's current habit of having non-wrestlers like Bad Bunny or Snoop Dogg beating clean in the ring former title holders. Except no movie tie-in for those.
@JobVanDam
10 ай бұрын
What I hate is how guys like Brock Lesnar never work tv and show up every PPV with a title shot.
@newagain9964
8 ай бұрын
Celebs can win a match. But never a title.
That cruiserweight division was awesome.
I love this channel for wrestling content
This makes me wonder why the WWE never did a WCW One Night Stand.
Sum up WCW in one sentence- " a leather jacket on a pole match "
You know it was bad when David Arquette was only #4
I was there the first time the blood missed Nash. Got all over the first two rows, me included. To say I was mad was an understatement.
*Finger Poke of DOOM* 😬 is my #1
wait, how did the halloween havoc main event between goldberg and ddp getting cut off only minutes after it started because wcw went over the ppv time limit not get mentioned? It cost the company millions of dollars in refunds and they had to broadcast the match the following night on nitro.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
10 ай бұрын
That's not bad question, but let me explain. WCW stil made 30 million dollars in profit in 1998. While in 1999 they were losing money. Maybe that might 11 on the list, but it wasn't a horrible thing that they couldn't recover from.
The WCW beat the WWF in ratings for quite a while there. It wasn’t just “some iconic moments” as you put it. It was king.
I was in Baltimore the last couple months of WCW for a nitro. They may have sold 1000 seats, everyone got upgraded instantly to camera side and around the ring to make it look better on TV. The show was terrible as well
@jesuscage
Жыл бұрын
Did you get to see Goldberg?
@jeremykifer
Жыл бұрын
@@jesuscage No, he had already put his arm through the limo several shows before that
Everyone knew that The Finger Poke Of Doom will must be on this list..
Russo was obsessed with trying to swerve the fans. Thinking that bringing backstage politics into the ring was a good idea. Like he was somehow blurring the lines and fans would get a kick out of not knowing what was real and what wasn't. You know what we would have loved in the dying days - a match that made sense, had no gimmick and had a clean finish. That would have been great.
There's a great video of Paul Heyman predicting WCW's downfall in '95. Short explanation: The bookers let the workers run the company.
@LegendKingY2j
5 ай бұрын
nah if that was always true then HHH would have destroyed WWE already
@achromatic1
3 ай бұрын
@@LegendKingY2jthe difference is that in WCW you had way more workers doing the booking than in WWE. Too many people trying to steer the ship to their best interests.
@LegendKingY2j
3 ай бұрын
@@achromatic1 yup, that concept applied in WCW at that time specifically, letting Hogan practically keep the company hostage lol
WCW was the greatest pro wrestling promotion.
@kazallroberts
Жыл бұрын
Where the big boys play!
@ChrisWolff2013
Жыл бұрын
No. No it wasn't.
@jetla22
Жыл бұрын
No it just had the most talent
@namikstudios
Жыл бұрын
Yep, WCW during the 90s was the gold standard that all promotions have tried to emulate ever since.
@nighttripper1432
Жыл бұрын
They were 50/50 with WWF but WWF was more cartoonish
WCW was bad but damn did Vince Russo killed it
Nash just staring lifelessly into the blood is hilarious
That blood falling was just hilarious
Vince Russo did an interview once and said if he was given a second chance to change anything he did in WCW,he said no.He would do the exact same things he did in WCW.
@CodA2501
Жыл бұрын
True proof he had no idea what he was doing… he will claim, well we are still talking about it. What he fails to understand is, we keep talking about it as a “what NOT to do”
@fattiger6957
Жыл бұрын
Vince Russo is the perfect example of someone promoted beyond their abilities. The guy never had the talent, foresight or restraint to be a leader. To get the best out of him, he needed to have someone above him to veto all his stupid ideas.
@scotthiebler2414
Жыл бұрын
@@fattiger6957 At least Vince McMahon knew how stupid his ideas were.
@scotthiebler2414
Жыл бұрын
@@CodA2501 The worst thing about Vince Russo is that TNA gave him a job.Even after seeing what he did to WCW.
@absolutez3r019
Жыл бұрын
@scotthiebler2414 Jamie Kellner killed WCW not Russo.
NWO is like a bad train wreck. You can’t help but watch . 😂
@kctippensusmc
Жыл бұрын
Started out amazing tho, just ended with horrible writing. The start of it was epic and fans loved it. Everywhere you looked, people had NWO shirts on. Then they decided to create 20 different versions of it. Ended that real quick.
@danman6669
Жыл бұрын
NWO was revolutionary when it started out, but like any great idea, it was milked to death.
@arvindshastry6434
Жыл бұрын
NWO would have been much better if it was just Hogan, Nash and Hall but WCW booked the entire WCW roster to join NWO.
It was like watching someone with Alzheimer's die they're already gone and you're just waiting for their body to be gone
the blood missing actually makes it funnier than what was originally intended
Did you notice a pattern of Kevin nash, Hogan and Vince Russo all basically screwing over the product
@WideHarryCock
Жыл бұрын
The only guys with talent? If Hogan doesn’t show up in ‘95 WCW doesn’t make it past ‘98 and that’s cold hard facts they were having shows in warehouses in Disney’s studios before Hogan got there lol
@rolandobaluja7504
Жыл бұрын
@@WideHarryCock Hogan had the Midas touch for sure. But then he had the reverse might as touch remember he's the one that played a bowl in WCW going down the toilet and TNA going down the toilet
@rolandobaluja7504
Жыл бұрын
@@WideHarryCock also quit a cherishing him for a brief moment that he was in his prime when if the booking wasn't so lazy they could have pushed someone more talented to make a difference but they were too lazy to innovate and build someone up
@WideHarryCock
Жыл бұрын
@@rolandobaluja7504 I’m not even a Hogan mark but to say him and Russo killed that company is ludicrous…Russo was the only shot that show had at making it into the new millennium…nobody wanted to watch WCWnWo anymore it was boring
@rolandobaluja7504
Жыл бұрын
@@WideHarryCock do you notice all the horrible ideas were so hard not to mention the fact that he played more stereotypes than Vince McMahon. Russo contributed to the downfall of the company in so many different levels his association with the company was so toxic that one TNA had worked with them they lost their TV deal when the TV company found out