Bro we need more alternatives for leg press, leg curls, and leg extensions. You just killed half my leg day.

@jakejohn1966

3 жыл бұрын

Same !

@IamLotion

3 жыл бұрын

So long as you use them as burners and not going heavy, i think youll be okay

@riandrikaimansetyono4376

3 жыл бұрын

Squat

@delcarmat

3 жыл бұрын

yes please

@roxozone810

3 жыл бұрын

@@IamLotion so I think I should use them for light reps in the 12-15 rep range right?

I appreciate that he gave alternate exercises to do, instead of just saying "these are bad, don't do them."

@joshuaanyim144

3 жыл бұрын

Yea he’s very thoughtful

@robbstark1946

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@ibkamofa4084

3 жыл бұрын

He's a really good man

@alphaaesthetics7698

3 жыл бұрын

Great take:)

@user-wq7uu8fx1e

3 жыл бұрын

Fully agree

I have no idea what I am going to do at the gym now 😂

@EfficientMan

Ай бұрын

Indeed, scaremongering.

#1 Exercise to avoid: Selectorizer Ab Machine 0:44 #2 Exercise to avoid: Behind the Head Shoulder Press 3:13 #3 Exercise to avoid: Smith Machine 5:05 #4 Exercise to avoid: Hip abduction and adduction machine 6:43 #5 Exercise to avoid: Seated Torso Rotation Machine 7:33 #6 Exercise to avoid: Upright Row 8:15 #7 Exercise to avoid: Lap Pull Down Behind The Head 9:45 #8 Exercise to avoid: Leg Press Machine 10:44 #9 Exercise to avoid: Leg Extensions & Leg Curls 11:41 #10 Exercise to avoid: Back Hyper Extension Machine 12:19

@RagneUrak

6 ай бұрын

Thnx for this

@DadeMurphie

6 ай бұрын

The ab machine you showed in the video is not the same was what you described. The one in the video is far superior and let's you put the bar further back to get the a better range of motion than the turd machines you described.

@ListWonders.

6 ай бұрын

@@DadeMurphie Oh, My bad

@jayewherner7435

5 ай бұрын

This video has a lot of misinformation. It’s 2years old so hopefully he has changed his stance on much of the exercises.

@germelesmith9305

5 ай бұрын

I have so many concerns on this video.....smh opinion supported by science based on others' 😊experience doesn't make you right.....

Weight machine companies hate this guy. Find out why

@a.l.alexander3668

4 жыл бұрын

It's a business, so what else it new?

@officialrivv

4 жыл бұрын

Cuz his channel is giving eronious information

@benseattle8978

4 жыл бұрын

And your spelling is erroneous as well, dummy.

@sheepledtotheslaughter4917

4 жыл бұрын

When will KZread add the laughing emoji? 😂😂

@daviddewar6008

4 жыл бұрын

@@sheepledtotheslaughter4917 what? spamming crying emojis isnt good enough? Fuck off kid, what's wrong with lol or haha.

I injuried my lower back watching this

@YsL-_-Jemane

4 жыл бұрын

😂💀

@diazfernando9348

4 жыл бұрын

😂

@dannyscar2388

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@AsherBKNY

4 жыл бұрын

😀

@untoldofficialyoutube8563

4 жыл бұрын

leonardo di curzio 🤣🤣🤣

I’m extremely grateful for this video! I have a two decade old low back disc injury. I’m always trying to figure out how to support it and did not realize some of these exercises were so bad for it to begin with. Thanks again!

I think leg press, leg curls/extentions, back extentions are and hip adduction are all great exercises. If you wanna build muscle its almost necessary to isolate muscles with those machines. Also hip adduction really is helping with my stabilising muscle so I can squat heavy without having balance problems. Only thing about those machines is that if you have some problems avoid them but if you dont use them the right way to get the most out of your workout.

@calebdelacruz40302

7 ай бұрын

It’s good for building muscle but it’s not good for your body

@alexbasha0508

6 ай бұрын

@@calebdelacruz40302Everyone’s body is different. They react differently. Hence why a certain exercise is good for one person but not good for someone else. Another factor in place. As long as it is controlled and the form is good, shouldn’t be a problem.

@chicityjifreeon

4 ай бұрын

I agree because John cena does them don't listen to this lame jabroni

@GibbonStreet

4 ай бұрын

Came here for this. I implement all of these in my workouts, and they've been imperative for building strength and muscle mass. Don't overload, maintain slow, controlled sets with good form, and they are game changers for your routine. Perhaps this video was meant for amateur lifters, because this had the most amount of lifting tips that I've had complete disagreement with on this channel.

@AC-yt3we

Ай бұрын

Agree, I do the one and only lower back exercise that he criticized and with weights of course, when I first started I wouldn't use weights. I never feel pain when doing them if anything I find my lower back have gotten stronger overtime. I of course, don't use past a 45 pound plate but if done correctly I don't see how can someone harm themselves unless they are going up and down at the speed of light lol @@alexbasha0508

Basically a big middle finger to planet fitness

@speechlessmoment1668

5 жыл бұрын

BASICALLY

@Vinstant_Karma87

5 жыл бұрын

Dude I was about to join Planet Fitness just this week. Took a free guest pass and found....no free weights. Their reasoning was they don't want to discourage people new to working out. Anyway, first and last time I'll set foot in a Planet Fitness.

@R0bert714

5 жыл бұрын

Well...good thing I work out at home.

@kelsoalmeida1834

5 жыл бұрын

Lmfaoooo

@dirtymeatball6315

5 жыл бұрын

Yea no shit. I still go there only because I go at 3 am. There isn’t any gyms in my area with those hours and I don’t have to wait for all the bros to get done.

Imagine this guy opens a gym and there are only benches in

@tingsborg9375

3 жыл бұрын

benches, squatracks, dumbells n barebells, basically all we need. Maybe lat bar and row too? Some resistance band, kettle and medicineballs.

@NikoBellaKhouf

3 жыл бұрын

I think he does own a gym but I could be mistaken

@Craze16

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@bleuthaidesigns2887

3 жыл бұрын

Do you own a gym?

@vDriizg

3 жыл бұрын

@@tingsborg9375 yea basically all you need, but if that’s all your gonna use why even go to the gym to begin with. Just buy that shit for ur basement.

The old-fashioned powerlifting exercises (squat, deadlift, overhead press and bench press) are a really solid foundation for building functional strength. I supplement those four with pull-ups and bent-over barbell rows, and I feel like I get a complete workout--and only I only do three of them in a single workout.

@KuntaKinteToby

6 ай бұрын

Fitness culture is promoting over training. Mike Mentzer trained once a week and won competitions. Clearly he was on to something that is heavily overlooked: the rest time AFTER your workout.

@Sebo994

4 ай бұрын

@@KuntaKinteTobywouldn’t take mikes advice fully by doing less than 5 but his idea is in the right track. 20 chests of 8 chest exercises is complete BS. Same with all the an circuits going around

@eplatamx2017

4 ай бұрын

What about body builders who don't care about functional strength?

@Semiotichazey

4 ай бұрын

​@@eplatamx2017 It's obviously different for them. But that's a specialized situation, and anyone starting bodybuilding should first establish a modicum of functional strength.

@KuntaKinteToby

4 ай бұрын

@@Sebo994 Yea I think Mike started to run the risk of under-training, but he has the right idea for sure. Do the amount required to cause muscle growth, then recuperate. Repeat.

I had a knee injury and used leg curl (from very low weight to higher through weeks) and it helped me a lot to gain power without pain (together with other free-motion leg exercises)... therefore I think that it's more about proper technique and precise motion when doing this particular one. Of course I agree that many locked, unnatural movements with gym machines may cause harm and are not good for health (like e.g. the seated rotation machine etc.)...

@kkbbss

Жыл бұрын

Well the first thing he does says about these machines are you should avoid them unless you are rehabing an injury (your case) or a bodybuilder.

@dawiedarling

8 ай бұрын

seated rotation must be banned!!!!!! PREACH, Brother!

Damn, my leg day went from six workouts down to two workouts after watching this.

@IzzyRob88

5 жыл бұрын

Jesse Biedlingmaier right?! 😂

@jrc0004

4 жыл бұрын

Simple is the best effective.

@ButcherTV

4 жыл бұрын

doing squats for your entire leg workout will literally produce maximum leg development over time and is the most functional movement you can do for everyday life, manual labor, sports, and just about everything else. All the other bs like smith machine, leg press, single joint exercises, and machine exercises are inferior and are a waste of time. To add variation, you can do deadlifts, front squats, and box squats.

@BankruptGreek

4 жыл бұрын

something to note about the leg extention and leg curl what he said pretty much is that isolating those muscles is unnatural and you cant use those movements in everyday life. Like I ll need to squat with 20-40kg at my shoulders or pretty much any of the exercises shown. I am not doing and not planning to do any manual labour so I guess based on the video most people should just improve flexibility and some fundamental strength instead..

@cbretz2578

4 жыл бұрын

Lmfao

I’m 44 years old. From the age of 16 through my early 30s I spent most of my time at the gym performing every exercise that you just said could be bad for ones body. I now have a damaged back, knees, elbows, wrists and shoulders. I sure wish I had this information when I was younger.

@brnzhut

5 жыл бұрын

even you avoid these exercises, you'll still ended up like this if you spend so much time in gym. Body is like a car, you drive it too rough, you damage it.

@LlamaWarriorMan

5 жыл бұрын

@@brnzhut u weak, bruh

@muscleymetal

5 жыл бұрын

@@brnzhut not true! with muscle maintenance and proper care before and after a workout. like one doing proper all around maintenance on a car it'll last you a long time.

@EpicPancakes6

5 жыл бұрын

Jason Creager sucks for u bald ass nigga

@H.E.M.

5 жыл бұрын

Jason Creager you should’ve stretch. Stretching isn’t just for ballerinas and gay men you know.

I do several exercises on this list without realizing or understanding why, alternatives and mechanics. I’ll be making corrections immediately. Good looking out.

I've also gotten a ton of gains and no injuries using the hip adduction and abduction. Same with the Torso rotation and I've been a ton of clients on all these, many in their 60s and 70s. They are all fine, in fact they are all doing better with less back pain.

Stop spreading this info the free weights are already over crowded at my gym all damn day

@Santos-qe8jc

4 жыл бұрын

xTheNameisEthan it’s cheaper to buy your own weights and workout at home and run in your neighborhood fuck a gym

@UrFavDudeOnUtube

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t worry, people who do these exercises are too dumb to realize the damages they’re doing to their body. I know people who swear by these exercises as it has “improved” their posture and figure. You’re still going to wait your typical 10-15 minutes, but no more than that.

@xTheNameisEthan

4 жыл бұрын

Santos 66 probably, unfortunately I don’t have the money to invest into hundreds or even thousands of dollars into weights so my lil 10 a month is gonna have to do for awhile lol

@Psartz

4 жыл бұрын

Get resistance bands.

@dgs266

3 жыл бұрын

Santos 66 facts since the virus I have started at home and prefer it a lot more no wait times no loud grunts

I'm glad he didn't say anything about lifting beer bottles. Whew.

@ashikthomas3826

5 жыл бұрын

hahahaha

@markusdreier1531

5 жыл бұрын

My greatest fear is that beer bottles get blamed, for stuff lije this

@Neilbear5820

5 жыл бұрын

LOL

@albertomaldonado9513

5 жыл бұрын

Thats horrible lol

@FinneousPJ1

5 жыл бұрын

This comment speaks to me

i'm so happy that i've found your channel. watched many of your videos in the last months. they helped me a lot. especially this one. always when I did exercises at the machines you mentioned in the video, i had the feeling that something is wrong and doesn't really fit/makes sense. i stopped using them and changed to better alternatives. everything is now much better. progress in gaining muscles and overall health without risking stupid avoidable injuries. i just train to be fit and always prefer lower weights and correct technique instead doing something heavy weights and doing the wrong thing just because others are doing it. thank you.

You’re one of my favorite coaches the advice is legit I know this for certain and you have a very polite positive attitude towards your people and I’ll always be one of them.

The moral of the video is...do exercises that promote natural range of motion???

@AntonioBrandao

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty much.

@shenizer

4 жыл бұрын

He meant have good and frequent sex !!

@marcusje11

4 жыл бұрын

Basically, avoid machines, do as many free-weight exercises as possible

@gorilaogorila835

4 жыл бұрын

I also thought so. He should've given more alternatives for the exercises mentioned like that for the hamstrings foe example.

@keepnitreal5682

4 жыл бұрын

Man versus machine Lol

would have been nice if you showed some more alternatives

@jeffwood5897

5 жыл бұрын

Zeltos he did ?

@xSekuSx

5 жыл бұрын

@@jeffwood5897 "some more"

@omarelizbarashvili173

5 жыл бұрын

I was about to write same thing

@dreams_through_camera

5 жыл бұрын

Do face pull for shoulder in place of upright row

@The_PoorMansAuthor

5 жыл бұрын

How about do research lazy... 😂

You are honest man, I had been trying all these exercises and I had a lot of problems with them. Thanks again and again.

Bro thank you so much. My lower back has been killing me. I’ve been using those ab machines thinking they’ll help strengthen my core to help with the issues…. Little did I know I was making things worse. Thank you so much brother. I’m subbed btw

Damn, there’s goes my ENTIRE gym routine...! 😫

@Mario-su1jz

5 жыл бұрын

da Mana beta

@Dleonlemus9554

5 жыл бұрын

da Mana stay safe bro 😂

@crazy911wman

5 жыл бұрын

Every day is abs day? :D

@matheussales4892

5 жыл бұрын

kkkkkkkkkkkkkk Same here, man. I'm just going to see one of those videos that recommend us to do all these exercises we should avoid and wait for the best. Meet you in the hospital in 10 years. See ya.

@somedude3590

5 жыл бұрын

@@Mario-su1jz if ur still using labels like "beta" you deserve a spanking from me and your dad

And i think Personal trainer at my gym need a Personal Trainer.

@danieltkach2330

4 жыл бұрын

LOL yes... same here.

@craigwiles8258

4 жыл бұрын

That's because you can become a fitness instructor in 5 days ruined it all, hence why I got out the game

@GgHh-bu6gt

4 жыл бұрын

Vitamin See for real

@DoktorrFlow

4 жыл бұрын

Same, at my gym there is a total of 6/7 people working there... From them only 2 have good tips and tricks, the rest are just spotters in my eyes lol PS. Even with those two I disagree on some things, but I can see why they believe them

@ashtongondokondo9201

4 жыл бұрын

Vitamin See hahaha

I agree with all of these, there are so many alternative exercises to safely work the same muscles , I wish I would have watched this 2 weeks ago , I was doing the lower back extensions and strained my lower back , I’m feeling better now but that really ruined 2 weeks of not being able to do anything

There's a lot of good stuff here. I never do the behind the neck stuff, but I've done every one of the exercises Max mentioned for close to 40 years with no issues. Understanding the dos and don'ts (i.e. proper technique & how to adjust the the machine) goes a long way to avoiding injury.

@chrisstephens9656

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree, I've been lifting weights for 20 years and never had an injury doing them exercises it's about controlling the weight with proper form. I use to compete years ago the Smith machine and leg press help my legs out a lot.

When your high school gym was safer than planet fitness 😢

@simpbucks4554

4 жыл бұрын

Planet fitness is a place where people go to make it look like their working out

@soggy5854

4 жыл бұрын

No way bro. High school weight rooms are injuries waiting to happen. At least the ones I've been to. Kids are pushed to hard by their peers instead of lifting what they can handle. The coaches dont even offer any advice about lifting weights.

@joshrodriguez8355

4 жыл бұрын

@Deku you just seem like that one dickhead student who us just begging for attention and approval, just let the teacher teach and if students want your help then help them, dont interrupt the class and teacher because "you know best"

@tommytwobrews

4 жыл бұрын

@Deku just shut the fuck up man

@nbaneverbtoke9639

4 жыл бұрын

Deku stfu

Thank you for informing us. 👍🏼 Ive never used most of these exercises, but considered most.

Thank you. I love the Smith machine and the leg press machine...but I also struggle with lower back pain. I also do the hip flexor and extension...not necessarily with heavy weight...but still. I'm going to take your advice for the next couple of months and see if it works. I ditched the behind the head press and pull downs last year and I never liked that ab rotator machine...but I'm guilty of doing all the other exercises...and my lower back and shoulders are VERY tempermental.

1. Ab machines 2. Behind the head shoulder press 3. Smith machine 4. Hip adduction & abduction machine 5. Seated torso machine 6. Upright row 7. Lat pull down behind head 8. Leg press machine 9. Leg extension & leg curl machine 10. Back hyper extension

@jaydeneveleigh1062

5 жыл бұрын

Add timestamps next time you do one of these for even better comment, but thanks anyway!

@thebutcher5032

5 жыл бұрын

Jayden Eveleigh you are right, it would help. Thanks for reminding me. I will do it from now on.

@user-cr2fk1cf2e

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks . My friend

@May-D97

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the list. I stopped the video after number 3 as he was taking soooo loonnnggg to get to the point.

@Birtchman1

5 жыл бұрын

Thx

Can you make a video showing the alternative exercise to replace those that are dangerous for us?

@olosh123

4 жыл бұрын

Can someone trein for me, please?

@lexux32

4 жыл бұрын

Free weights are perfect substitute. Deaflifts, pulups, dips, push-ups, bench press, bands, pilatess balls etc

@VestigialHead

4 жыл бұрын

@@brucele2776 Tried that and it only seemed to make my left arm bigger. Am I doing it wrong?

@brucele2776

4 жыл бұрын

@@VestigialHead use the right hand

@VestigialHead

4 жыл бұрын

@@brucele2776 I just asked my right hand man to do it for me and he refused. He says I am not paying him enough for that shit. I am confused.

I agree 100% with all that he says 👍🏻👍🏻 I've had myself problems doing those exercises. And seen friends who also had issues for the same season. The magical word is "Don't".

As a BJJ practitioner I love the adductor machine, it works your guard so well.

@berzerker_mma

14 күн бұрын

Leg press too

It's been 6 years... And rotor cuff injury cause of the exercises which he asked to avoid.... Listen to him... Trust me HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT

@eon001

5 жыл бұрын

Currently suffering from a thigh joint injury from doing the stupid hip abductor. I only used it once out of curiosity and I've been injured for months. :(

@dcbull87

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, this is why I cancelled planet fitness.

@Unknown-yq4dh

4 жыл бұрын

eon001 Lmao wtf

@mustafarasooli2958

4 жыл бұрын

You are a weak Indian

@shekharchauhan4588

4 жыл бұрын

@@mustafarasooli2958 guy in this video is not an indian ... So shut up bitch

6:22 " A squat is a very natural movement that was performed daily before the invention of toilets..." THAT'S SCIENCE!

@arnavanand7619

3 жыл бұрын

It is

@akshitdahiya383

3 жыл бұрын

Daily done in India, Google desi toilet

@Lennaick

3 жыл бұрын

But so true! Toilet are pretty bad designed and cause some troubles because it's not natural to be sit like that.

@robertnegron9706

2 жыл бұрын

They still use in China

@daewoo5933

2 жыл бұрын

I can literally here Uncle Ruckus’s voice while reading this 😭

always helpful Bro I see so many people doing all these awkward workouts that are simply just bad for you I avoid all these and so glad I watched this video

I agree with the leg curls and extensions, I stopped those pretty quickly after I first tried them because I noticed they did not feel good for my knees

thankfully I avoided all those exercises, because I never exercise 🙊

@scottwidiculous

5 жыл бұрын

Wow, you really have nothing to do when you don’t exercise and you spent 14 minutes watching a KZread video about exercise. You must live with your mother.

@lerevenant5404

5 жыл бұрын

@@scottwidiculous I watched it because I don't like the fact that I don't exercise and I want to change that genius.

@lozviv1180

4 жыл бұрын

right on brother!!

@saeedajju8965

4 жыл бұрын

@@lerevenant5404 hey u should exercise I'm only 13 and I look as good as a body builder at least that's what's my friends say but u should though

@lesy5571

4 жыл бұрын

scottwidiculous thats a retarded diss 😂

Leg day has been officially butchered for everybody😂, now we are going to only do squads😂

@kushalnaik8588

3 жыл бұрын

He left use nothing robbed our leg press and favt leg extension

@moonfang6984

3 жыл бұрын

My trainer has me doing upright rows, leg extensions and hamstring curls lol.

@asp9998

3 жыл бұрын

@@moonfang6984 your trainer is stupid lol

@yuantheabsolutegreatbeing

3 жыл бұрын

Are calf raises necessary btw? I still do them every leg day.

@pagadqs

3 жыл бұрын

@@moonfang6984 I saw a "trainer" almost kills himself the other day, mismatch loading a bar for squats, and then adding resistance ropes. I thought it was some new guy in the gym, 45 mins later I saw him trying to train a person. I can guarantee you his trainees won't learn how to properly workout

I am just turning 70 and still lift 5 - 6 days a week. I do not lift heavy. About 8 days ago I did the upright row you were talking about in this video (no not normally do the exercise) and hurt my right shoulder. Did not feel the discomfort until the next day. So now I am trying to rehab it myself with shoulder movements, no weights used in these movements. The discomfort is not severe but enough that I know it could be. A long time ago I hyperextended my right shoulder sliding into home playing softball and have been prone to injuring my right shoulder from then on. Now I know what exercises not to do but like everyone else we sometimes do them anyway, my mistake. Just thought I would let people know that your advise in this video is spot on. Most of us who have lifted for a long time know what we should or should not do. Listen to yourself, injuries even the small ones are no fun.

I had a lot of pain from the upright row for 3 at least weeks and could hardly move. I wish I had seen this before! Keep up the good work! :)

this dude just ruined my whole life...

@geosanchez2660

4 жыл бұрын

How?

@theskeptic8489

4 жыл бұрын

@@geosanchez2660 because all the exercises I love doing he advised against.

@geosanchez2660

4 жыл бұрын

@@theskeptic8489 I hear ya. I think I got fucked up by the up right row, won't be doing that one again. He is not the only one who had advised against doing it also.

@itzben499

4 жыл бұрын

Then find other exercises, it’s not the end of the world smh

@maxb7990

4 жыл бұрын

@@theskeptic8489 dont worry about this fools advice. He cleary is a lifter not an athlete. Just do what makes you feel good

My leg routine have been butchered :')

@simeonson6162

4 жыл бұрын

Mine to... im only gonna do squads now. Gonna be a boring leg day.

@ollie7588

4 жыл бұрын

H3ct0rXZ I do squats and calf raises on the smith machine, leg press, leg curls and leg extensions. 😂😂 looks like we’re just doing box lunges bois

@EditingWithPopPop

4 жыл бұрын

I have a lower back injury. I can’t squat or deadlift. What should I do for my legs?

@tess2082

4 жыл бұрын

@@EditingWithPopPop he did say the machines are okay if you're recovering from injury

@notme2554

4 жыл бұрын

@@EditingWithPopPop work on 1 leg squat

I just got off doing Smith machine bench presses for about a month. I was moving some good weight. Now I'm on a regular flat bench. Wow!!! Holy moly. I didn't know regular bench presses would get me so knackered. You really do use so many more muscles on regular bench as opposed to Smith.

Thank you for the heads up! I broke my pevlis and sacrum last year and started using the hip abduction machines to help regain strength to walk again. Didnt know they could cause injury

After 10 years of total bodybuilding, 15 years of hockey, 4 years of Muay Thai and mma and a sprained rotator cuff, many wrist sprains, pulled muscles and 2 herniated discs later I’ll tell you this guy is pretty much spot on.

@ernestiechevalierchildprod1586

5 жыл бұрын

no he's wrong about some stuff

@Detroit_Playa

5 жыл бұрын

Ernesti Echevalier Child prodigy what is he wrong about?

@ggrthemostgodless8713

5 жыл бұрын

Sure, if you're that fucked up he is right, but for healthy bodies he is wrong on some things.

@mazenourabi7149

5 жыл бұрын

خ

@Nitihene

5 жыл бұрын

Too bad that you do not write what he is wrong about.

I had had some serious hip and lower back issues that were cured by using the dreaded hip abduction and adduction machine. I used low weight, slow reps, and stretched beforehand. I have an offset lumbar with stenosis and a bunch of other old back injuries. I could not believe how much better my back and hip became after using these machines. The real issue with these machines is that people use too much weight -- a point this video makes very well but that might be missed by someone who just wants to dismiss this machine outright. But without these exercises my pelvis feels crooked and my hip pain is screaming. My case may be unique as my old injuries also prevent me from doing heavy squats and deadlifts. So when done right, the hip abduction and adduction machine can benefit someone with specific issues like mine. This is probably why women like it so much. It hits the glutes and compliments their other glute exercises. But I recognize that for a guy who is healthy and injury free, nothing beats heavy free weight lifting with proper form.

@mohammedqasim3657

2 жыл бұрын

Well said, Hip abduction machine is needed for me as my glutes are soo weak and I use low weight high reps with this with control form and it help me build my glutes using this machine along side free weight

@alanorrick6741

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, you just gave my reply. 3 years of physical therapy for my hip injury did nothing. Those 2 machines plus leg curls, all with fairly light weight, finally did it.

@travis3324

2 жыл бұрын

I swear your supposed to do stretches after your workout not before

@ImFrostier

2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to assume you are talking about the good girl and bad girl machines

@JasonvonBrevern

2 жыл бұрын

I'm also finding abduction and especially adduction amazing therapy for my 4 years of groin pain, hip pain, leg pain, gout, plantar fasciitis, high blood pressure obviously I'm using light weight and plenty of pulsing.

very informative. thanks

Excellent video. I wish I knew this information long ago before my injuries. I hope many people see this and heed the valuable lessons provided.

I spent years. Literally years... 25-30 years doing all these day in and day out. I am only 59 and although I would not attribute it solely to these exercises ( I have had many hard on the body jobs over the years), but I now have a VERY serious case of Lumbar spinal stenosis. I am in a high degree of pain at every moment of every day. The only relief I get is sitting down. I would trade every muscle I ever built to reverse the debilitating situation I am in now. We did not have guys like this around back in the day evaluating the methods being handed down. So take heed.

@marciboy9401

Жыл бұрын

Decade's

@jigneshganja

Жыл бұрын

@@marciboy9401 decades

@marciboy9401

Жыл бұрын

@@jigneshganja yes

@fredm.2699

Жыл бұрын

“They never told us till the 80s” Junior Soprano

@andreasm9102

4 ай бұрын

I've been a pt for 30yrs I can assure you machines and resistance bands is brilliant for 35+yrs any younger than that listen to this guy use free weights as much as you can. Inc leg press machines they will hinder your movement in the long run.

man looks like ramos mixed with otamendi

@abf9378

5 жыл бұрын

True

@Ricky-ij4ut

5 жыл бұрын

that's so spot on

@liamdahlke9694

5 жыл бұрын

Great name. And I agree

@antonioroberto6991

5 жыл бұрын

And aguero

@marcosgcm

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao

Almost every exercise you talked about i done them. And it's all making sense why I broke my back and been off work for 3yrs because of it.

Man I always felt strange with those behind the head shoulder press. Will never do it again. Very informative video, thanks so much!

9 out of 10 of these can be summarized - use free weights instead of machines

@dave101t

5 жыл бұрын

so all isolation is baad mmm'kay?

@DanielEvansEsquire

5 жыл бұрын

Isolation isn't bad. You can isolate properly with free weights. What's bad is machines that isolate you into the wrong position.

@seantheguy

5 жыл бұрын

You dumbasses are taking his comment the wrong way

@brandonsterlingon6130

5 жыл бұрын

@ that's because they are all filled with men cum!

Sound advice i am 59 and used to do some of these, hence months of rotor cuff pain. Listen to this guy.

I'm not sure about leg curls not having any functional use. Lying leg curls sure, but ever since I started doing seated leg curls, I've found I can really slam shut the recliner leg rest with more strength than before

@kajca63

4 ай бұрын

You’re right, the seated leg curl can make you use more weight and makes you stronger in that position.

This guy is a hero, saving you from injury is the key to growth, those machines are cool but does more harm than good and I heard that they were really made for older people that don't have much mobility.

Every injury he spoke about, that you can get, I did get them when I was on my 20s and 30s and use to hit the gym 7 days a week and twice a day. I had back injury, neck injury, shoulders injury and knee injuries. Please listen to this young guy, that I wish this information was around when I was naive and stupid. Thank you gravity information, I am still exercising, not so much, but 3 times a week, and following the information given here, which is exactly the information given by my doctor. Awesome video...

@cameronbernardo

4 жыл бұрын

Happy you're still lifting bro

@marcusje11

4 жыл бұрын

Amen to that. I haven't done most of these (luckily, my trainers seemed to avoid these), but I have done the leg press and legg extension machines. I have permanent knee injuries in both my knees and as soon as I got on them and used the max weight I could do without sacrificing form, the strain on my knee was killing me. So I asked my trainer to give me free weight excercises, as they don't cause abnormal trouble for my knees. So for those 2 that he mentioned, I definitely recommend you avoid them

@paulrayne6602

4 жыл бұрын

7 days a week and twice a day? Are you actually insane or is this a joke? If this is true you butchered your own body by not allowing it to rest.

@richardandretti2680

4 жыл бұрын

@@paulrayne6602 Not a joke, but the truth. I got huge, and ate like a hungry bull, and had a lady coming to my house and cook me awesome meals from the get-go. Nothing on cans or fast food. But one day, I felt this horrible pain on my left shoulder, which brought me to my doctor, and from that point on, the world collapsed for me. My arms got to be 23 inches of thick muscles but needed to stop. Of course, depression got in the way and had to stop working out so hard, and my friends help me get involved with hunting in the Amazon State in Brasil. If it wasn't for hunting, I don't know what would have happened to me. I just loved pumping iron when young and felt like superman...Back pain, knee pain, and neck pain weren't enough to make quite, was only the shoulder pain that was unbearable... If you young, listen to the instructions and info, and always consult your doctor. Happy New year...

@m_i_g_5108

4 жыл бұрын

@@cameronbernardo stupid ass straw arms I know your kind very well. Please fuck off, mate.

I think anyone who’s subscribed to Athlean X already avoids all these exercises but glad he gave more in depth information on why these don’t work to your advantage

@marblehillpjs

5 жыл бұрын

exactly. he even pointed out some that I didn't know about

@migueldejesus4414

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, mah boy Jeff Cavalier got backed up by him.

It’s crazy to see how terrible gym knowledge was 5 years ago lol

That why I'm having lower pain since Jun and coz of it . I had stopped working out and other reasons but I did all what he said in the video. Thanks for the info.

And just like that, in 14:11 minutes, weekly leg and back rouitines have just been butchered.

@-_-1937

4 жыл бұрын

Just use barbells

@arian3837

3 жыл бұрын

@@-_-1937 good advice, except there are 15 powerlifters at the squat rack and they rest for 15 mins each for god knows how many sets

@jjdecani

3 жыл бұрын

Mine too. The problem is going to be that it’s hard enough already to get access to the free weights at my gym. Always being monopolised by the body builders. That’s actually why I built my routines around the fixed weight machines. Eh, fuck it... I’m over sixty now anyway. Time to just give up and pork out!

@tilinh389

3 жыл бұрын

@@arian3837 iam a powerlifter and only in my max over all god like rep i would like a 15 minute rest but if ya gym had not enough free weight then just move to a powerlift gym

I’m doing all these exercises tomorrow!

@James-ki9sm

4 жыл бұрын

agreed. I see a huge difference in my legs when doing leg extensions. I think the hyper extension is fine, just use your body weight and don't push to complete failure and stay level, just do it so it is comfortable, 70% effort.. Everything doesn't have to be all out to get results.

@Santos-qe8jc

4 жыл бұрын

James what’s the point of doing the exercise if you not looking for results makes no sense lol

@MM-xy3yr

4 жыл бұрын

Santos 66 that’s not what he meant dumbass

@lollypoofy

3 жыл бұрын

lower back left the chat

@randomclips8575

3 жыл бұрын

Santos 66 how is 70% effort not going to give results dumbass. just think about it

I love learning about new things preciate the great knowledge

EXCELLENT!!.... thank you for the great info.... I am now a subscriber !

Curiously, I evaded all those exercises by pure intuition without knowing their risks. But as soon as I felt it was "unnatural" or uncomfortable or it hurt in an unnatural way, I discarded it. Good video.

@R0bert714

5 жыл бұрын

You are one of few people these days that can listen to their body.

@Daniel880516Heli

5 жыл бұрын

Same

@1thelastmystic

5 жыл бұрын

Same here. Never liked any of those

@BankruptGreek

4 жыл бұрын

confirmation bias much. There was nothing wrong with leg curls or extentions, rewatch the video and you ll see he gives 0 reasons as to why those exercises are bad. Aside from "they use only the knee which is unnatural" duh.. it's an isolation exercise it's made to isolate. There is no info presented that claims that if you take squats or running and you isolate-tly look at the knee joint you ll see something else from the actual isolation exercise of curls and extentions. Then he says "unless you wanna be a bodybuilder". Being proper weight, walking, swimming in the summer and eating healthy can give you all the natural capabilities you need in your everyday life unless you are a construction worker. The majority of people going to the gym are going for esthetic reasons, since even without those exercises the soreness and energy loss will make you less capable than without the gym in the first place.

@neethan30

4 жыл бұрын

Just like sex which you also thought was unnatural!

It's true. I was told a bit too late by a world renowned body builder that it all about Risks Vs Gains. There is nothing to gain from behind neck press. And the risk of injury is high. I've had one shoulder opt on and the other is now playing up. Before this happened I would do 100 press ups every morning. Now I can't do five before pain becomes unbearable. This injury happened 10 years ago and I'm still suffering the effects so be warned. Listen to this guy and stay safe.

@johnclowes3894

5 жыл бұрын

William Kildea I'm not fussy. I eat when hungry. Drink when dry. If the whisky don't get me. I'll drink till I die.

@jake30966

5 жыл бұрын

You and me both bro .

Great video! Super helpful and spot on. I agree 100% with everything you said here. Having been working out for 27 years now I have avoided 90% of those exercises subconsciously. So it definitely helps to listen to your body.

Listen to this guy - he knows what he's talking about. In November of 2018 I hurt my back using the abductor and now in August of 2021 I'm still feeling the pain

He could have just said "Only use free weights" lmao

@remcoterharmsel3147

5 жыл бұрын

And Cables....

@dariusgean6413

4 жыл бұрын

It's still better when something is said specifically

@AUZlE

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, which is pretty common to hear and at that point you might as well just buy a set of adjustable dumbbells and a weight bench and do it all at home.

@bryankingsley4752

4 жыл бұрын

Max Maxed all machines are a waste of time

@frabsurdity

4 жыл бұрын

People are more likely to follow advice when they're given reasons and explanations.

I agree with everything you said except about leg extensions and leg curls. They definitely help strength, shape and size.

@henryguillen7277

3 жыл бұрын

He never said they didn’t

@michaelscott2696

3 жыл бұрын

@@henryguillen7277 yes he did. He said they weren’t a good excercise for size I believe.

@michaelscott2696

2 жыл бұрын

@Sam right and I don’t agree with that statement.

@michaelscott2696

2 жыл бұрын

@Sam cycling is good I use to do a lot of cycling myself.

@johncoe6304

2 жыл бұрын

Yo Micky you could always start a competiting channel, yea, na. I wouldn't. Id just look for something good to say instead of trying to nit pick this undisputed pro.

I am very appreciative of the information you provide. Thank you!

Dude I’ve been having lower back pains for the last week I thought it was muscle soreness but you point out multiple exercises that almost do on a daily and explain why I’m in pain 😳😳thank you

@lmdoinraysmom

2 жыл бұрын

Which ones?

@chubbySquirrel

11 ай бұрын

brooo 😂😂

my favourite machines are the chips bowl machine and the remote control machine. never had an injury with them.

@JoeyCentral

6 жыл бұрын

Filip Sandebert bodybuilders did sooner than obese people though

@TheSuperbadkneegrow

6 жыл бұрын

It's on the inside

@DudeImWayBetter

6 жыл бұрын

Andrea Roll my favorite is the automatic pizza box opener at planet fitness.

@weldon9254

6 жыл бұрын

Haha you’re fat. Poot...

@endure_elevate

5 жыл бұрын

Mine is the Netflix and Chill machine

So stay away from all gym machines and only do free weights. Ok got it.

@RyanKaufman

5 жыл бұрын

I mean you should avoid relying on machines anyway but plenty of machines are fine, just hip, leg, and ab machines are already hilariously dumb. You get way more in what you actually use in those muscle groups when you add natural ranges of motion. Legs need stabilization, abs need stabilization, hips need stabilization. Focusing on singular muscle groups is how you end up fucking yourself even if nothing explicitly goes wrong in these muscle groups.

@CarlosPerez-2023

5 жыл бұрын

RyanKaufman I hate those leg machines after my leg workouts I’ll use those leg machines just to burn out but I’m going to stop doing it .

@cpfink1242

5 жыл бұрын

Don’t go to the gym. The only way to build practical strength is to go to the woods. Punch trees, rocks and wild animals. There’s no point in any other workout.

@HipFitSoooGood

5 жыл бұрын

Wrong. Those machines are fine. I totally disagree with everything in this video. You just have to know HOW to use those machines.

@HipFitSoooGood

5 жыл бұрын

Even the leg press machine is ok. But putting all that weight (including a human like this silly video) is a bad idea, lol.

Can you make a video about alternative exercises to these? It’s helpful to know what not to do but need a full video on what is better. Thanks for this information.

Very informative... Thank you so much...

I was worried the tenth one would be, watching netflix while lying on the couch can put great strain on your lower back. Thank fully he has not mentioned it yet

@dmanpoole

3 жыл бұрын

Lol funny thing I’ve read all day

@amandamayhue9057

3 жыл бұрын

😆

when you sign up for planet fitness, then you come here and watch this video. I guess I can.....pace around the gym for a few minutes...

@brzo.

4 жыл бұрын

Then you realize every single exercise can cause injury and you quit. Videos like this do nothing but ruin your perspective especially as a beginner. DUDE. You can literally crush your neck from a bench press or tear a bicep with a deadlift. Nothing is safe. So... stop worrying...

@MarkBrown-ku5jx

4 жыл бұрын

Ali listen to what he is saying the machines limit free range so use free weights and limited those bad machine ones

@brzo.

4 жыл бұрын

@@MarkBrown-ku5jx I did listen, but if you're worrying about things like that why not worry about the bar coming dow on your neck or chest and crushing it when testing your 1-rep max? (which happened to someone who KNEW what they were doing)

@m_i_g_5108

4 жыл бұрын

@@brzo. did they really know what they were doing then?

@brzo.

4 жыл бұрын

@@m_i_g_5108 Testing their 1RM. Didn't know if they could even HOLD it up. It came down fast and crushed their neck .It was an athlete IIRC

Thank you! Very useful information

This is a great help. Thanks for this valuable information.

Basically, do not use machines other than a bench, a pull up bar and barbell. You dont need fancy equipment to get stacked.

@hplovehandle

4 жыл бұрын

Totally, and I keep all of those and a few big kettle bells at home for conditioning, no more gyms and poseurs in spandex/lycra for me!

@BankruptGreek

4 жыл бұрын

most things he said in the video are incorrect if not seeking to clickbait.

@chuckcap6878

4 жыл бұрын

@@hplovehandle Ahhh, but the eye candy.

@hplovehandle

4 жыл бұрын

@@chuckcap6878 true, true

@mr.suitss1590

4 жыл бұрын

I have used some machines for years and never had a problem. All this depends on the person and if they are doing the exercises right or not.

I’ve been working out the last 7 months and getting deeper and deeper into fitness and I’ve lost a lot of weight but I’ve encountered a lot of strain and light injury along the way. I regularly do at least 5 of these exercises and never knew this information. All of the pain and discomfort you showed in this video is every last one of my problem areas and I wear sleeves and braces to keep them good, but I whole-heartedly think you just saved my joints in one video. Not only pointing out why these exercises are a problem, but you also gave alternates to work those groups as well. I’ve watched many of your videos already but you’ve just gotten a subscriber for life! 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

@pensante69

2 жыл бұрын

he forgot to mention that there are smith machines that are vertical 90 degres and you can do squatchs safetly in that ones, abduction machines are actually safe the problem is the user, people take their backs off the chair while doing and then becomes a very dangerous exercise, and you can say the same thing about the leg press, mainly wrong use of the machine

@soarinpenguinlive6372

Жыл бұрын

@@pensante69 He also straight wrong about never loading your adductor unless this guy doesn't squat or deadlift. The both load that muscle and making them stronger will help this lifts

@richardkilburn2434

5 ай бұрын

Po

Should've known this 5 years ago. Thanks to one of this exercises I lost my lower back curve and been through hell. Thank you for making such videos. Hopefully more people are gonna listen to you, because you're spreading the truth. Happy holidays!

@the__archangel

2 жыл бұрын

What caused it and were you able to recover?

@user-os7iw4bk8t

2 жыл бұрын

@@the__archangel Exercises for flexible spine every day, but never fully recovered. Too much pressure causes pain, but that happens 1-2 times a year. Just don't do too much isolated exercises. Always stretch and make sure your spine stays flexible.

Agree with all EXCEPT the leg press and other leg exercises you mentioned. Been doing them for years with no issues.

1- 0:52 All ABS Machines. 2- 3:15 Behind the Head shoulder press 3- 5:08 Smith Machine (limited motion range) 4- 6:45 Hip adductors machine 5- 7:32 Seated torso rotation 6- 8:15 Upside Row 7- 9:45 Lat PullDown Behind the head 8- 10:45 Leg Press Machine 9- 11:40 Leg Extension/Curl 10- 12:18 Back Hyperextension machine

@daywalker3735

2 жыл бұрын

MVP

@Jdj-nr2nw

Ай бұрын

Eh these aren’t too accurate. Keep doing the exercises ur doing. I’d rather take advice from Jeff Nippard.

Drinking game: take a sip every time he says range of motion

@illzwillzwatuz963

5 жыл бұрын

I'm drunk

@lowearthsurfer

5 жыл бұрын

A huc dude shedf if fuckngie dntomy what ghuge taking abuot

@guillermopereda688

5 жыл бұрын

I’m ded

@Munaaja159

5 жыл бұрын

@@lowearthsurfer LULW

@courtnrysalamone7677

5 жыл бұрын

Id black out at 3 minutes lol

Thank you very much Man that behind the head shoulder press had never made sense to me thank you for clearing it out

Man tnx for this video i have lower back pain and now i know what might be the cause, it makes sense what you are saying. Im sticking to body weight exercises and weights. Cheers

This is one of the best fitness channels on KZread. I have a bachelors of kinesiology and I agree with almost everything this guy says in almost all his videos.. he gets straight to the point and talks about debated topics, weighs out the pros and cons very well yet gets to a conclusion. keep up the good work.

@user-tl2cs6wv8b

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree👍

@moneyonmind2412

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@KingTutsMTtomb

2 жыл бұрын

Says people that don’t have their names associated with the comments. Suspect

@KingTutsMTtomb

2 жыл бұрын

Obviously other than Lopez

@chrischris9157

2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow a bachelors in kinesiology. Look out everybody we have ourselves a world renowned expert over here!

To sum up the whole video: Don't use machines because they put you in a locked range of motion!

@adamkhuc5987

5 жыл бұрын

I think he meant that too

@hengistcz1940

5 жыл бұрын

I am not using them because I cannot afford them. But good to know I am not missing out on anything. :)

@muerty23

5 жыл бұрын

I wouldn´t say "don´t use machines", but in my point of view some of the machines are only good if you want to be a bodybuilder and grow a lot of muscles (still I believe that limited range of motion is not good for your body). If you want to be and look fit, I would suggest things like calisthenics.

@Peter_1986

5 жыл бұрын

Actually he did mention a few free-weight exercises as well. But yes, free weights are generally better than machines.

@lito_al_booboo

5 жыл бұрын

@0 0 cable machines give you more natural movement than single path machines.

Have so many pains from doing some of the stuff your talking about good advice

So appreciative. Thank you so much.

Well there goes my entire leg workout

I was happy with the video until u crushed my soul with the leg press, leg extension and leg curls machine😢

@reiniernn9071

3 жыл бұрын

I can add to the leg curl machine (11:41)....A collegue at my work did this...and destroyed her knee in such way that she ended up in a wheelchair. I really recommend this guy for his advises. And if you EVER use something as that leg curl...it is not mentioned in the video....be 200% sure that the rotating ax of the curl is EXACTLY in line with the rotating ax of your knees. But stilll I do not recommend this..Even when the correct rotating ax is set in this machine...how do you know that you do not move halve a centimeter during your exercise, which would place you immediatly out of line.

@cimarronMC

3 жыл бұрын

He saved your knees from crushing

@WeyardWiz

3 жыл бұрын

@@cimarronMC I used to do this before the pandemic when gyms were open. When I rejoined the gym 7 months later, I had become very busy in life anyways so I now go to the gym and do basic exercises simply because I just dont have the time anymore to do e very possible excercise I used to do. Sometimes I wondered if i should get back to deadlifting or leg presses and what not, Turns out, this is saving me lots of trouble! Hahaha perfect. I'll just keep sticking to those basic excercuses like bench press, inclined, dumbells, cables, and some calisthenics here and there

@georgeanastasopoulos5865

2 жыл бұрын

@@WeyardWiz Right on, well said.

This was very informative

I appreciate you bro . Been fallowing for years . I thank you for all the information

So in the end almost none of the machines at the gym are usable 😂😂