10,000 Mile In-Depth Review | 2023 Honda Civic Type R FL5
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We finally reached 10k miles in the FL5 Type R! Let's take a dive into why this car is objectively one of the best cars (out of 65!) I've ever owned. We cover daily driving, road trips, practicality, track day capabilities and overall maintenance and ownership costs.
IS the Type R the right car for YOU? It fits my lifestyle perfectly :)
Topics for Discussion!
0:00 Length of Ownership, Dealer Markup, Daily Driver Duties
5:13 Favorite Interior Features
13:22 POV Driving, Drive Modes and Track Mods
22:46 Ownership Costs and Maintenance To Date, Final Thoughts!
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Type R!!!🔥🔥🔥
Love it Greg! FL5 10K ganggang haha
Just bought an FL5 myself and so far loving every second of it. Super nice to see someone who's broken that 10k mile mark and hear your input on the car after owning it for that period of time!
@BuyYourBuild
9 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard! Thank you
Picked mine up on December 30th, 2023, in South Jersey at Msrp. Took me a year to get msrp. I'm going to use mine like you're doing. Just ordered 18" wheels & extreme contacts . I went white on color. The fuel mileage is awesome.
@BuyYourBuild
5 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy it! Hit us up if you need any more parts. We'll get you a great price and fast shipping
Thinking of letting go of my touring and getting one for my birthday next year this video solidifies it for me
Awesome video brother!! I enjoy the content always!! I traded my fk8 in January for my fL5! I bought my fk8 new in 2019! I was fortunately to have a long relationship with my local dealership and they gave me it for msrp on my fl5 along with every other car I have bought from them dating back 15 ish years ago!! I got really sick and was life flighted to a hospital right after I got my fl5 earlier this year! Now after 7-8 months I just crossed over 2000 miles so it hasn’t been driven a ton because my health is been making it hard to get out much!! But driving is therapeutic for me!! Prior to the FK8 and FL5 I owned 4 different generations and mid model upgrade civic Si’s!! I bought my first Civic Si new in 2009, I then traded that and bought a new 2012 Si! After that In 2014 I bought and traded my 12’ towards my 14’ Si new! Then in 2017 I bought a new 2017 Si!! Later I bought my 2019 fk8 and now I own my FL5! Over the years my same local dealership has taken great care of me and I have been a Honda fan because I have never had any real issues with any of my Si’s or my FK8 and FL5! Keep up the great content brother!! I always get stoked when you post a new video! Have a great day!
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
Congrats on getting one at MSRP! That's awesome. Sorry to hear about what happened, but glad you're doing better now. Honda for life! I think I'm at over 15 Honda/Acura cars and that doesn't include all the dirtbikes and lawn equipment too lol
@Shono731
10 ай бұрын
@@BuyYourBuild thank you brother!! I appreciate it!!! That’s a lot of Hondas and Acura’s you have owned!! That is awesome!! Between all my family over he years we have owned a lot as well!! They make great stuff and I am a huge fan!! Have an amazing day!
@salamov963
9 ай бұрын
Honda is life
Really nice review. I think I’m going to get it. I love the because it does look sporty
@BuyYourBuild
7 ай бұрын
Good choice!
Great video bro!!!! Nailed it, mines still under 5k miles being a first batch it’s been flawless. I did notice every time I use Waze it would freeze and scramble the screen , so I just use maps instead haha .
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
Yea I'm hoping they put out a SW update for the infotainment!
Good review. Agree re the power, it’s enough out of the box.
love the fl5 ❤
just got my new fl5 in china!best car ever!
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
Congrats! Enjoy it
Thanks for making the video! You can improve the ride comfort further by using a higher profile tire such as a 40. The stock tire profile of 30 is quite low and not well suited for the street, but great for track. Would you happen to have a link or a name of your phone mount?
What is your mod list? Mainly wheel/ tire set up and suspension and brakes?
Question on the gearbox - do you notice any notchy feeling when shifting? Not gears grinding but the shifts just have a notchyness to it sometimes, not sure if you've experienced that as well. Love the vids. Keep it up!
@BuyYourBuild
8 ай бұрын
Typically only when its not warmed up
Great video My dude but I have to say, We have some great Back Roads in NY 💯 I love my state
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
We do! But also a lot of pot holes haha
@Rojer05
10 ай бұрын
What part are you guys im in Long Island our roads are pretty shit out here unless i go to the North Shore(the rich)
That’s almost exactly the markup I paid for mine in November 2023 too. Screw these greedy dealers, but they’re not stopping me from enjoying the car!
It’s a good fun car, I just would never pay a mark up for it. But it definitely will hold value you’re right about that. Maybe in a few yrs I’ll look into getting a used one
@jdmanreviews9383
6 ай бұрын
normally dealership will do this calculation msrp + packages + mark up (then do your best to waive or reduce) 5k or less I think it’s okay coz this is 100% manufactured by Honda. advantage of new is longer warranty, more options especially you can go for the Lease term if you have a good credit. the purchase it after the lease term.
I went with the 10th Gen Accord 2.0t, I need an actual backseat that an adult sit in and be comfortable. The K20C is an amazing engine. I can get 34MPG on the interstate, yet still be very quick when you get into it. Maybe someday these FL5's will actually be MSRP, then I will grab one up.
Wow! Your FL5 looks really good!! Making me want to trade my ISF for one lol
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
Oh man the ISF is such a good car too. Tough choice!
Random but do u have links for the phone holder/screen protector?? A lot of options wanna make sure I get what u got.
Would you have any qualms about a long road trip in this? Say 8 hours plus? Thanks so much for sharing your experience!
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
Probably not the most comfortable ride for 8 hours, especially for passengers in the back seat. The lowering springs arent as nice as the OEM ones. Definitely need to get out and stretch at every 3 hours or so, plus the gas tank isnt that big
I would not even consider a $6,800 markup. When I inquired about this car, I was quoted a $15,000 markup. The Acura dealer quoted me MSRP for the Integra Type S. I ordered one but it hasn't arrived yet.
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
Sick that you got a ITS at msrp, congrats! Curious to see how they hold value compared to the type R. I haven’t gotten to see one in person yet
Crazy this type of car and caliber doesn't have a TPMS! I figured I just couldn't find it yet in the menus lol. I'm at 3k and debating on a 1st oil change. I've read on forums that people say you're supposed to wait for the system to tell you when it needs one because the factory oil has additives that need time to coat all the components. The system shows oil life still at 60% right now. Do you change it more frequently because of track days? Do you go with the OW-20 full synthetic? Do the premium oil brands make a difference? Great review!
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
I waited til 4k to change and only because I had a track day. I only use race grade 5w-30 for that. Ill switch back to 0w-20 for winter
@dowbowski
10 ай бұрын
@BuyYourBuild Ahh ok. In the vid at 23:08 you say 1st oil change was at 1k miles.
White te looks so good. My friend have a bb fl5 on white regas, I need a fl5 or a fk8
It's very difficult to get one of these at sticker price, especially in Southern California where it's nearly impossible to get one at sticker and it's the same with the Integra Type S. Also, interest rate is ridiculously high, which put off many people in buying a car (unless you're buying an American made EVs). It's people with lots of disposable income are able to obtain these cars. The days of affordable fun new cars are going away and it's a damn shame too. The release of the FK8 is exactly like this too when dealerships were in the frenzy with mark ups nation wide. I don't wanna sound like a downer, but that's just how it is, unless, people vote with their wallets or corporate steps in (either is unlikely).
Great video! If not planning to track, do you recommend this FL5 Type R over a DE5 Integra Type S?
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
Just saw my first ITS last night. I still prefer the fl5 But the DE5 looks super sleek
@Slowcarfastbeans
10 ай бұрын
CTR to beat up for track use and ITS for daily driver, backroads, and social events.
@Vermonstered
8 ай бұрын
@@SlowcarfastbeansNot worth having both. They're too similar and cost too much. Instead, have a specific track car line a 718 Cayman, Emira, C8 or something and a Prius, Model 3 or whatever utility car to commute and throw miles on. Same total cost, but a lot higher performance and utility. I see a few with a GT3 and the CTR or ITS for those who need and can afford the daily performance (though almost any EV out performs for daily). These cars are really best served as a dual purpose single car garage.
Best car!
Great video! You had said you put your car through a car wash. Thought it was too low to the ground and might not get damaged. Second, What is the name of the cell phone holder ? T/hanks
Thinking about getting one here in S Florida, thanks 🙏
@BuyYourBuild
7 ай бұрын
You should!
I'll have to play with my Logr some more. Didn't know you could change the gauge colors? Android Auto seems to work fine. ;)
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
They changed to yellow on their own. I have no idea how lol
What upgraded brakes do you have on your setup? Did you install yourself?
@BuyYourBuild
4 ай бұрын
Just Gloc pads and HEL lines. Yes I both sell and install these parts.
I did the recall too 8:01 and I was hoping that would stop the squeaking. I still have it. Can I take it back to Honda and see if there is a fix for that?
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
I would definitely bring it back to Honda to have them replace it again
Hey recent sub here. Great content. I just picked up an FL5 in Sonic Grey. Just curious whats your wheel/tire set up? Sizes?
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
Hey! 18x9.5+38 TE37, 265/35/18 tires. The set is actually for sale
@ReevesTop
10 ай бұрын
@@BuyYourBuild oh ok wow! Yeah i was looking to go a little wider. 18x10.5 Apex VS-5RS in Polished Silver with Falken RT660 275/35/18
Real time tyre pressure reading is only good for confirming when tyres are warm. I check the pressures before session and monitor shoulder usage coming back in and evaluate turn in on worst-case high speed and worst-case low-speed turns.
@BuyYourBuild
9 ай бұрын
Didnt think of it like that! I have a nice tire pressure gauge to check pre/post session temps now
@dw214
9 ай бұрын
Wrong I run an aftermarket external TPMS because on my last track day excess rubber caught between the rim and the tyre and broke the seal which caused a leak. TPMS alerts you in real-time if you got a puncture or active leak which allows you to pull over safely and keep in control of the situation , knowing what tyre is playing up is life saving especially if you are on the freeway. I recommend anyone that has the FL5 to get one and a tyre repair kit and learn how to plug it in an emergency, we don't got a spare tyre so the onus is on you to ensure the safety of yourself and your passengers.
Yeah I hate the apple car play going off when I get on my phone. Sometimes using waze it will go back to the Home Screen and have to reload apple car play and then waze comes back up. Those seem to be the 2 issues I have.
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
I noticed it day 1 and it still pisses me off every drive lol
this boost blue is very insane color. transmission is made in japan plus manual very nice! 1st or 2nd to white color I guess.
@BuyYourBuild
6 ай бұрын
Yes, you are right!
Do you have issues with the infamous wastegate actuator noise when coasting?
@BuyYourBuild
9 ай бұрын
Yes but doesnt bother me
Hands down the FL5 has to be the best luxury/performance sedan in the 50k range. I'm curious to see your thoughts on the new Integra Type-S, hopefully you can test drive one soon!
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
I would like to get my hands on one to drive and review! I think all my local dealers sold their already. From what I've heard from other FL5 owners they said the Type S was just a toned down version with some bad fender gaps.
@jimmyinthaphanh2993
10 ай бұрын
Since when was a Civic a “luxury” car?
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
@@jimmyinthaphanh2993 since 2023
@jimmyinthaphanh2993
10 ай бұрын
@@BuyYourBuild😂
@carlosmennea4495
10 ай бұрын
@@jimmyinthaphanh2993 interior wise they've been doing a much better job since the 11th gen came out. The 10th gen cannot compare at all.
6:00 Hey its your younger brother right in front! 😁 ohhh no its just a regular Teggy 😮💨
Link for the phone holder ? :]
Just a quick question. How’s the PPF holding up? any swirl marks of some sort, or rock chips? i know you got the whole car protected, how much was it?
@BuyYourBuild
8 ай бұрын
Ive gotten rock chips but very minimal swirling even with machine washing. Full vehicle starts at 5k
@doggo4628
8 ай бұрын
@@BuyYourBuild did you ceramic coat on top of the ppf? i’ve heard some people do that but i think it’s overkill
@BuyYourBuild
8 ай бұрын
I did for the hydrophobic properties @@doggo4628
Dang what phone mount is that its sick!
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B1VDR7B4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
👍🏻 6.800 X 1 = 1 ? It's your thing. If it brought you that much joy, $6.800 was a small price to pay. That amount multiplied by one life equals one enjoyed life.
Can you please give me your wheel and tire specs ? And what springs are you running? I like the stance of the car.
@MrSwaggernaut83
10 ай бұрын
Pretty sure in the build videos they’ll have the exact specs of everything involved
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
New Track Wheel Setup for 2023 FL5 Civic Type R kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYSf16qmdMTKaZs.html
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
2023 FL5 Civic Type R | Full Suspension Upgrade - Swift Springs, Sway Bar, Camber, Rigid Collar Kit kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXWcpdV7oq2uitY.html
Link to phone holder ?
Great video man it's definitely a beautiful machine and I hope it lasts you as long as you need it to. But to be real with you paying any mark ups is definitely an L. Sure, it was a lower mark up, but that's nothing to brag about and sounds like an excuse. We don't wanna give these stealerships the wrong message. It's your money tho so it sounds like for you it was well spent. Drive safe!
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
Appreciate the kind words but I wasn’t bragging about the markup I paid. I had no other car to drive and any new model is going to have markup, even new base model Hondas. Let’s be realistic, if I didn’t pay it someone gladly would. If I had waited until today I still wouldn’t have found one at MSRP at any of the 30 dealers I called. Also markup doesn’t matter when pre-owned resale value is consistently 5k over MSRP. Paying any markup is definitely not an L. MSRP is a “suggested” retail price. If you were offered a GT4RS at $20k over MSRP when they resell for $50k+ over you wouldn’t do it? I sure as hell would.
@ShaiyanHossain
10 ай бұрын
name an enthusiast car being sold new in 2023 that hasn't seen some sort of markup that's also not a wrx or elantra n lol
is spoiler necessary on road - would it flip over like early ttrs?
Got a link for that magsafe?
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B1VDR7B4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
I run the NASCAR special toe, in and out.
@BuyYourBuild
9 ай бұрын
Yes thats the key!
Whats the wheel and tire specs?! Please
@BuyYourBuild
6 ай бұрын
18x9.5 +38 DM us to secure a set! @ggp.ny on IG
Does your car overheat on the track?
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
Haven't overheated in either of my 3 track days. Have 2 more this weekend
@DeezVideoPictures
10 ай бұрын
@@BuyYourBuild awesome. I wonder why other FL5s are overheating?
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
@@DeezVideoPictures im stock tune and maybe not as high ambient temps
@DeezVideoPictures
10 ай бұрын
@@BuyYourBuild awesome! Thanks!
My markup was about 8k and they was trynna do 15k for champ white
@BuyYourBuild
8 ай бұрын
What color did you get?
@wipedsol8038
8 ай бұрын
@@BuyYourBuild I went with champ white. Just had to talk them down on the markup There was another dealer that had a boost blue one but I wasn’t fully sold on the color. I was shooting for a white or black.
It is 79k USD in Mauritius 🇲🇺.
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
😯
As a side note, the Integra Type S does display tire pressure in the display, but it doesn't display what gear you are in. The display area is one of the biggest differences between the two cars. Or I should say the content on the displays is very different.
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
I didn’t know that! I definitely would rather have gear indicator over true TPMS though
@mikemccormick6128
10 ай бұрын
@@BuyYourBuild I feel frustrated that we can't have both. I want all of the information. My understanding is that the Type-R also tells you the optimal time to shift, unless I got confused. I definitely know that the Type S doesn't tell you the optimal time to shift, but it would be cool to have that feature.
@ShaiyanHossain
10 ай бұрын
yeah the type R has the shift light, the integra does not @@mikemccormick6128
@iamsatoshi9412
10 ай бұрын
false, integra type s does show the gear you are in..i know, i look at it everyday@@BuyYourBuild
@Vermonstered
8 ай бұрын
@@mikemccormick6128TPMS isn't great for those who have track wheels and daily. You have to reconfigure it every time you swap. The Type R doesn't tell you the optional time to shift, not quite sure what that is.
Friend jsut traded his R in with 5000 miles for $51000.
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
That’s what Im saying!
Good car ! But with all the respect the car looks like that needs more power, feels average minus when flooring it Enjoy 👍
@BuyYourBuild
9 ай бұрын
For a stock tune it's got plenty of torque and power. Add too much power and it overheats way more quickly on the track
Just my opinion but paying anything over MSRP is a bad deal no matter what the car is.
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
Depends from what angle you speak from. If you pay 5k over and someone wants to pay you 12k over pre-owned, is it a bad deal for YOU?
Insurance is a real bummah. I pay just as much for a 2018 Camaro ZL1 which has a 50% higher present value.
I know where to get them with less than 5 k markup.
@BuyYourBuild
2 ай бұрын
Can buy them for msrp now
Das Cockpit hat sich sehr deutlich verbessert . Die Qualität rein vom Fahrwerk , rein vom Motor , unwesentlich . Genau genommen braucht man es nicht erwähnen .
Any m3 4 porche will dust it
@BuyYourBuild
10 ай бұрын
Oh ya? Thats why Porsche GT4 and BMW M3 are giving me point by passing on the track 😂😂😂
@LateNightDateNight
10 ай бұрын
Captain Obvious here
@39rbn61
10 ай бұрын
okay and? you sound like an 8 y/o
Garbage