1 Year Later: Underpowered, Yet Still Fun | FMS P-51 1700mm
The FMS P-51D 1700mm is gigantic. One of the biggest PnP Mustangs you're going to find on the market today. Yet it's also got a bit of a reputation for being underpowered. We take a dive into this plane - and tell you what to do, and definitely what not to do, to succeed with owning it.
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0:00 Intro
0:50 Landing Gear
1:26 Flight Time & Agility
2:18 Brian Phillips Fitness Challenge
3:38 Fit & Finish
4:27 Overall Score
5:42 Why You Shouldn't CA Glue E-Clips
7:27 Tailwheel Issues
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Brian Phillips fitness challenge! Hilarious!!!
just maiden mine recently! it’s an old design, released in 2011, but it’s SO MUCH fun to fly. the gigantic prop looks so good in the air it’s under powered because the wing loading is quite high, i had some trouble doing low speed approaches and landings
My man had the command & conquer poster framed, because its an awesome game from back in the day😂
@TwoBrosRC
4 ай бұрын
Also because Jon worked with Westwood Studios at one point and is friends with quite a few of the people who worked there!
Im really happy with mine. had it almost 4 years now. Thats the first thing i noticed is the under powered nature, but got used to it fast. Beautifull in the blue sky as well. man does it stand out!
@ 2:54 - AMAZING ;) Looks like the P-51 1.7m, like me, could use a few workout sessions - LOL!!! Good review, Jon!
@TwoBrosRC
4 ай бұрын
You know it.
Hahahhaha that Brian segment, genius! Love watching you both 😅
Outstanding review Jon! Hilariously accurate. I've had this one since it came out sold by HH. It definitely is big and slow. Upgraded the wheels to Robarts and early on FMS sold upgraded metal gear retracts, worked even better. Found the lighter the battery, the better it flew, (no kinding Sherlock 🤪). Likes a HiV SMC 4400 or the old SMC 5300 that was only 680 gr. Thought of upgrading power but never got around to it.
Underpowered RC planes can be quite fun, since you can't just "throttle out of every situation". It requires more forward-looking flying style.
Keep fighting the good fight on those hard plastic wheels Jon!! Hopefully the companies will get the msg! 👏👏🙌🙌
What a beautiful plane to bad fms didnt go all out on this one. I have the eflite 1500mm and its awesome. But when the tail wheel touches down it gets squirly too. But it has the power. Thanks.
I would suggest you use much harsher language when commanding your airplane. Bad airplane! Love your channel! 🙂
Awesome follow up review Jon! Ordered a couple days ago. Mine arrives tomorrow! Lol & I ordered a motor with mine I’ll let you know how it works out. On a similar note: I also just swapped a 650kv motor into its little brother the 1400 fms p51 last night. Waiting for good weather to maiden. This is the same motor ran in the p40&T-28 1400 & those two have plenty of power and fly excellent on 4s as your reviews have shown, so cross my fingers 🤞🏽
@TwoBrosRC
4 ай бұрын
If you're not on Discord already, hop in and let us know! We love seeing flight vids.
Really enjoy your opinion and input on this large warbird, it's one of my favorite 1700mm from FMS, along with their Corsair and tigerCat model's. I agree the P-51 Is slow but scale like and fly's more like an advance trainer.
@TwoBrosRC
4 ай бұрын
We'll be posting the Corsair in the coming weeks, too. Thanks!
@williewideback
4 ай бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC Awesome!!
I hope they come out with a upgraded version . I think its like 10yrs old, needs a refresh
@TwoBrosRC
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, definitely needs some improvements for sure.
When are we gonna stop getting Flintstone wheels 😭😭😭
Thank you for your honest review I bought the first version It was very underpowered and there was a plastic landing gear So it broke almost envery landigs The foam was very fragile too Very disappointed for the price
A thoroughly entertaining review- everything from tweetie bird to the most infamous intro on YT, to toddler disciplining pet P51s 😊 Do you have any motor upgrade suggestions for this plane, if someone wanted a 1700mm project plane? Stuff a Draco 2.0m power system in it? Just curious.
@TwoBrosRC
4 ай бұрын
Tweetie sure didn't want to stop singing. Or crash landing. But hey, it's all in fun. We're unfortunately the last people who would know what motor to upgrade it to - sincerely hoping someone in the comments has an idea, because the 1700mm Corsair coming up suffers from the same lack of thrust.
@AL-RCjunkie
4 ай бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC I've recently been testing powertrain options for my Maule- which experienced an unfortunate encounter with a dilapidated basketball hoop (which should be removed-but its not mine, soo) at low speed. Resulting in a violent nose dive. All. My. Fault. But, every crash is an opportunity. Been shopping for Draco noobs' victims, hoping to find a motor and possibly that sweet 100amp Avian, from someone fed-up (and unknowledgeable)enough to let theirs go cheap 😂
Just one of quite a few FMS warbirds that are way overdue for some improvements! 2011 design and tech is less impressive in 2024!
Some good scale robart diamond treads would be awesome for this bird.
I have the 1700mm corsair and it was overheating the batteries because it was overproped so bad. Put a 8s esc and 8s battery and it will go vertical on takeoff and everything runs cool now. Might upgrade the Mustang.
@Mikeylikesit1968
4 ай бұрын
Strange I don't have that issue with mine. Maybe have some bad lipos.
@airman9820
4 ай бұрын
@@Mikeylikesit1968 my is the v1. No even really high quality lipos would be really hot even with mild flying.
@Mikeylikesit1968
4 ай бұрын
@@airman9820 I did 6 flights with the V3. Using Zeee 6s 6000mah 100c and after ea flight the lipo was barely warm
@airman9820
4 ай бұрын
@@Mikeylikesit1968 I'm guessing the v3 has a better esc than the v1
I put dobro tires on my eflite 1.5m mustang it works pretty well and it very quiet on the ground.
@TwoBrosRC
4 ай бұрын
Probably tracks better too!
@CalebT_RC
4 ай бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC tracks much better than the stock tires. It still will try to ground loop but it’s manageable
Red tailed devil Tuskegee airmen
@TwoBrosRC
2 ай бұрын
KZread comment
Nice review and very interesting ( like always) of this great plane; do you have any tips or recommandation, to fix the underpower? maybe another motor? thanks
@TwoBrosRC
2 ай бұрын
No idea, wish we could help with that. Someone on our Discord server might know, though! bit.ly/TBRCDiscord
@mj01011980
2 ай бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC no problem; on your opinion what would be the nice kv for this bird?
It just flies in scale. Put here real sound of Merlin and you will notice that speed is just accurate. You can also change the propeller to 2 blades 19x12.
@henryairconcepts2999
4 ай бұрын
With a sound system installed, it will make it even slower. Some rc pilots prefer speed, power and agility flying than scale flying.
@robflyrc
4 ай бұрын
@@henryairconcepts2999 I'm talking about movie post production and adding real sound to movie. Sound systems are crap, in flight you can here nothing. 😁 You are right, people have different preferences. I prefer flight in scale. Most of planes on the marked in my opinion are to heavy and to fast for their size. Moreover you think that they are slow because they are silent. Did some test in the past about it, was flying jet as well. Anyway, there is room for all of us. Happy flying.
I need advice and help please. I am new to rc planes but I started learning about a month or so ago with a carbon cub s2 rtf and the stock radio it came with and now I have progressed to flying in expert mode and can do some basic loops and rolls. I recently picked up a turbo timber evo 1.5m and made the mistake of trusting what I read on the internet that learning a radiomaster tx16s with edge tx would not be that bad (big mistake) so for the price I figured it would be perfect and I picked one up and hell I even managed to program and setup the timber with it. To me it just felt like a chore and just the thought of programming and setting up the next plane makes me dread it ahead of time so I have decided to sell it and move to spektrum because from what I have seen spektrum is much much easier to program and setup. Now here is where I need advice and help because I have narrowed it down between the ix14 or nx10 but I am leaning heavily towards the ix14 because of the touch screen and the fact that I don't fancy the idea of that scroll wheel for the amount of settings there are to be adjusted and setup. The other major fact is that to me a really nice radio is a long term investment and you get what you pay for so I just wanted to kinda see if it's worth it to spend the extra now or go cheaper and then have to buy again and upgrade later because planes are needing more and more channels these days. Very sorry for the super long comment but was trying to cram as much info as possible for this
@TwoBrosRC
4 ай бұрын
Hey man! Your best bet is to join us on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord. There's a list of recommended equipment and aircraft that you can learn with, and people who are more than willing to help you grow as a pilot.
I am wondering why FMS still use this kind of wheels. I have the same plastic wheels in a skytrainer 182 and i find them the only bad think of this agile model!
@TwoBrosRC
4 ай бұрын
Probably because they're less expensive.
@Balthazar030
4 ай бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC Maybe but how big can it be the cost for a wheel? Personally cost wise i cannot believe that we talk for more than a dollar or two for much better quality. Anyway it is what it is but it is pity to make worst the customer experience of a very nice model because of this tiny thing!
Underpowered? It actually looks realistic for the scale. Some I've seen look like a piston aircraft going 800 knots. But I'm new to this.
I forgot to tell you that you can do the zip tie mod on the prop blades . Gives the prop more pitch . I did it with the 1400mm P-51 and Fw-190 kzread.info/dash/bejne/g5-n0MSapqm5p8o.htmlsi=6tNbppIE99Iw8_eq
I disconnected the rear retract from the board. i just leave it open
@TwoBrosRC
2 ай бұрын
Why? The retract isn't the issue, the problem is the harness that the steering can pop loose from.
The 1.5m looks like a better option imo.. Im kinda over warbirds :(
Nice singing bird😂
@TwoBrosRC
4 ай бұрын
🐦
Does the Yesoul require a subscription?
@BrianTurner-ub2tu
4 ай бұрын
Found it, $69.99 a year. Sad Face. Will it go up in price the moment it becomes popular? Almost need a life contract too prevent price increases.
@TwoBrosRC
4 ай бұрын
No sub required, we just biked with our phone connected to it to play YT vids. If you want extra features you can get the subscription, but we don't have any plans to do that. It'll just be pedaling while watching YT vids lol
That tail steering wheel system is so shitty on grass runway. I broke that often on other FMS planes. FMS needs to learn from Freewing
@TwoBrosRC
4 ай бұрын
You're definitely not wrong.
Send it back to the manufacture in China and tell them. To install a more powerful electric Merlin engine, and pneumatic rubber tires!
@TwoBrosRC
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's not how it works.
So. Underpowered and bad wheels. Pretty easy to fix. How would the body perform if you replaced these.
@TwoBrosRC
3 ай бұрын
No idea, we haven't done the fixes for it.