#1 Mistake DIY Painters Make (How to paint over oil based paint)

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In this video I’ll show you the results of painting water based paint over oil based paint. There’s a simple trick anyone can use to identify water based vs oil based paint and avoid making the mistake I made on this job site that I won’t forget. I’ll show you with examples in this video.
I also cover this mistake on my website at:
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This is the biggest mistake to avoid as a painter. Water based paint adheres poorly to oil based paint without an oil based primer and comes off with just a gentle scratch of a fingernail. Peeling on doors can start within days.
I read a horror story where a woman took the time to repaint all of the interior doors for her house. She used a water based paint over an oil based paint and had to scrape and repaint every door within a week due to immediate peeling.
The easiest way to determine whether you’re about to paint over water based paint or oil based paint is to remove a small sample.
How do you remove water based paint? Water based paint is removed remarkably easily using denatured alcohol.
How do you remove oil based paint? Oil based paint is removed using either mineral spirits, paint thinner, acetone, or paint stripper. Mineral spirits can be found in an odorless variety and does a good job of removing fresh oil based paint, but doesn’t work as well as the heavier duty noxious chemicals like acetone or paint stripper. For old, difficult to remove oil based paint, the best bet is to use acetone or paint stripper. However these will leave a sticky residue, unlike removing water based paint with denatured alcohol which leaves no residue.
How do you paint over oil based paint? Oil based paint adheres well to other oil based paints. If applying water based paint over oil based paint, an oil based primer like Kilz Original works well. Even though the primer is oil based, it’s designed to bond to water based paints.
I’ve used Kilz oil based primer in the past to paint over wall paper and varnish and polyurethane for great results.
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  • @notwaitingtolive
    @notwaitingtolive3 жыл бұрын

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  • @RedondoBeach2

    @RedondoBeach2

    2 жыл бұрын

    I need to remove oil based paint from several walls throughout a home. It was applied unevenly and paint streaks are visible everywhere. In your video, you discuss using denatured alcohol, paint thinner and acetone to remove oil based paint. Is this an difficult job, requiring a lot of scraping and repeated reapplication of the solvents in order to remove it all, or does it come off the wall relatively easily? When it comes off, is it also removing the texture?

  • @chrisandlane
    @chrisandlane3 жыл бұрын

    Expensive lesson! Nothing is more fun than doing a job twice, and taking three times as long. Thanks for the freebie!

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. It was a painful lesson for sure. There will be more, just gotta remember to learn the lesson the first time.

  • @serenityflo_sound

    @serenityflo_sound

    11 ай бұрын

    Haha I experienced this yesterday. Big mistake. Now to rectify it! Can I just sand it down and not use primer?

  • @janr.1077
    @janr.10774 ай бұрын

    Thankyou! I appreciate you sharing this with us. I'm moving into a house with oil-based painting, and I wanted to make sure I don't buy the wrong paints or miss a step when repainting.

  • @mjmason75
    @mjmason754 жыл бұрын

    At 3:26 when he said "A good feature of oil-based paint is that it's easy to clean with just soap and water", he was referring to cleaning the surface of dry oil-based paint, not cleaning your brushes or tools. Oil-based paint requires paint thinner for cleaning brushes and tools. Just wanted to clarify for those who are watching who may not have understood.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Matt Mason great point to clarify. Cleaning up the actual oil based paint itself is a pain. And disposing of paint thinner correctly is an even bigger pain. The wasted thinner/paint mess needs to dry before being disposed in the normal trash and the remaining thinner has to be saved or disposed at a special water facility.

  • @MK-ih6wp

    @MK-ih6wp

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@notwaitingtolive I'm learning a lot from these comments, thx guys!

  • @Izzywizzy74

    @Izzywizzy74

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@notwaitingtolive tell me about it :(

  • @jackwardley3626

    @jackwardley3626

    Жыл бұрын

    @@notwaitingtolive its not that bad its easier to clean oil based or solvent based paint out of brushes than it is water you just store your brushes in water you dont need to clean them out straight after and you dont throw your white spirit away you recycle it and reuse it for cleaning and burning out kettle and scuttles etc its only bad for the environment if you dont know what your doing.

  • @daniellehohenhaus3680
    @daniellehohenhaus368010 ай бұрын

    Great short informative video. Exactly the answers I needed. Thank you so much.😊

  • @cubbiesrul
    @cubbiesrul4 жыл бұрын

    This was so helpful. I started painting a wall and saw it doing what you showed. I thought it might be an oil-based paint and I'm glad I saw this. Thanks!

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    cubbiesrul you’re welcome. Glad you caught it early. When you’re using chemicals or scraping make sure to wear a mask!

  • @richardday2893

    @richardday2893

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same !

  • @amietrahan3789
    @amietrahan37893 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! This has been the clearest explanation and fix-it I’ve found. I’ve been searching for hours.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’re welcome. I’m glad you found this helpful. What problem have you run in to?

  • @dulceavila2760

    @dulceavila2760

    3 жыл бұрын

    me too, straight forward no nonsense and shows while explaining, thx guy

  • @bencortez5509
    @bencortez55094 ай бұрын

    Sadly, I just made this same mistake. Thanks for your video - no one else showed what it was like to make the mistake and how to fix it.

  • @estherthebeautiful1946
    @estherthebeautiful19463 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so glad I adrenal this about to work on a DYI. As well as my trim and borders. My husband was a painter and I have not a clue. But must say you gave in site as to cleaning the walls better. Thanks.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. I'm glad you found this useful.

  • @user-lt6xl3zy2w
    @user-lt6xl3zy2w3 ай бұрын

    Thank you , I was looking for this as I need to repaint my wall.

  • @Mel-Lanin
    @Mel-Lanin3 ай бұрын

    short and to the point! Thank you sooooo much!

  • @jmart7036
    @jmart70362 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Very helpful and concise

  • @corvettew.s.4360
    @corvettew.s.43604 жыл бұрын

    So glad I saw this was about to get a painter to do the exact thing you did Whew...... Glad you did this video!!!

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Corvette W.S. Glad this helped you out. This little detail can cause a massive headache.

  • @jpeperone1
    @jpeperone13 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your videos. You save me from making a big painting mistake!

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. Glad you caught it in time!

  • @dennismcrae7933
    @dennismcrae79334 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the great explanation. Very helpful.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for taking the time to leave feedback.

  • @janetsimpson3165
    @janetsimpson31653 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much. This was exactly our problem. I now understand.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    The good news is there’s a solution and you’ll work through the problem. Thank you for stopping by to let us now you found this helpful. That means a lot to me.

  • @s.family188
    @s.family188 Жыл бұрын

    Yep very helpful thx for explaining it all and now I know how to fix my walls

  • @izz5946
    @izz59465 жыл бұрын

    Thanks never thought of this... perfect since im about to repaint the whole house now i lnow what to look for

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    5 жыл бұрын

    izz5946 if it ends up saving you time, it ends up saving a lot of time. I read a horror story online where a person covered all their doors with a water based paint on top of an oil based paint. They had to scrape every door and repaint them all within a week.

  • @Izzywizzy74

    @Izzywizzy74

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@notwaitingtolive so initially paining rental walls would you use water or oil based paint in the beginning.......

  • @591013
    @5910134 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for postiing this video. It's the only one I've found that teaches a test - denatured alcohol - to know if one's deailing with oil based paint on walls or trim. I'm informed!!!.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. I appreciate you taking the time to leave feedback. This was a shortcut I learned the hard way!

  • @mdj864
    @mdj8643 жыл бұрын

    Wow. VERY HELPFUL! A painter did this to all 18 interior doors of our house--PLUS the trim. Didn't charge for his destruction. 😤 I'm guessing we need to replace all of them and start from scratch. Over-sprayed onto some of the walls too.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you found this useful. In this video I wiped off the door and trim with denatured alcohol. But that would be quite a lot of chemical exposure in your situation. I have heard of people light sanding (keying) the surface with ~100 grit sand paper then priming the surface with an oil based primer. That’s still a lot of sanding. You just want to make sure you sand off everything that comes off easy. And then dust the surface before painting. Whatever you do: Stay positive. That’s the only way to get through a task like this. The good news is that there is a solution.

  • @joyfulliving1161

    @joyfulliving1161

    2 ай бұрын

    THE same thing with our house...the previous home owners painted over EVERY DOOR and TRIM in ALL rooms from the kitchen to the bedrooms and bathrooms, and hallway trim...everything!!! It has been a disaster...how do we convince a contractor to take over this tedious task???

  • @scottmilburn
    @scottmilburn3 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant tips, probably saved me a lot of time!

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! This is a painful mistake! I appreciate you taking the time to leave feedback.

  • @AbnormalArts
    @AbnormalArts2 ай бұрын

    Hey there! Thanks! This is very helpful

  • @debbriggs5811
    @debbriggs58113 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much. yes, you are right, it does take longer to dry and has a stronger odor. The information you have given is helpful. 👍

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    2 жыл бұрын

    You’re welcome. I’m glad you found this useful. I have other home improvement tips you might be interested in like the best way to wrap an extension cord: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIl92aZ_eavcdKw.html

  • @Anonymous-it5jw
    @Anonymous-it5jw4 жыл бұрын

    I had some "pro painters" paint with latex paint over doors and trim that had always been painted with oil-based paint. They promised they had prepped the surfaces for painting, but they had not. I recognized the problem pretty quickly and got rid of those painters before they could ruin more of the paint on the existing trim, doors and walls that were originally painted before WWII with oil- based paint. Since then I have been looking for an easier solution than trying to sand off their work. I hope your tip about using denatured alcohol will work for me. The latex paint can look good, as long as it is never touched. When it receives the slightest scratch, up it comes. Oil-based paint has such a hard finish that in older houses, like mine, the wood work loses moisture and shrinks inside the hard shell of the paint, and ultimately debonds from shrinkage. Once you crack that hard shell and see what has happened over 40 or 60 years, or longer, you end up having to remove a lot of debonded paint, sand it down and start with an oil-based primer, etc., and you have to worry about lead particles in the air, HEPA vacuum cleaners, and getting an industrial grade gas mask in today's Covid-19 environment, where they are hard to find or afford. Thanks for sharing your experience and the solution to the problem with your viewers.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your feedback on your experience with oil based paint. That's frustrating that you now have to correct their mistakes. I've flipped a couple 100 year old houses and noticed the cracking you describe where the wood shrinks inside the hard shell of the oil based paint and cracks. It was most prevalent on the interior window casing. I actually replaced some of the trim to avoid the tedious refinishing you described. When you're using the denatured alcohol I'd have multiple fans moving air out of the room. The fumes are pretty harsh after a while. I'd also recommend a cheap chemical odor mask (although I have no idea if you can even buy them at the store these days due to coronavirus demand). The denatured won't take off every little bit but it will take off what's weakly bonded in the first place. A light sanding with 100-grit can knock down whatever else needs to come off. Then the primer you use will lock in the rest. The job from this video was completed 10 months ago and has no apparent issues.

  • @billendy7425
    @billendy74254 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful video, thanks!

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    2 жыл бұрын

    You’re welcome. I have other home improvement tips you might be interested in like the best way to wrap an extension cord: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIl92aZ_eavcdKw.html

  • @lexvalishvili
    @lexvalishvili3 жыл бұрын

    Super helpful! Thanks man

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’re welcome. Thank you for the positive feedback. I appreciate it.

  • @westfieldartworks8188
    @westfieldartworks81884 жыл бұрын

    Okay...man THAT explained it perfectly!! I did all the doors, trim, and windows with the damn water based over oil. I have a JOB ahead of me, but at least it give me a direction to head. I thought I may have to sand off all that water based paint as it's now several weeks dry. But I have Denatured Alcohol around. Thanks also for the detail on what primer (Oil Primer) in this case, to put down before I go over it with water based again. Man, what a hassle, but can't thank you enough....cheers!

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Anthony Johnson oh man I feel your pain. You’re in a tough situation. Make sure you wear a P100 mask if you’re going to be using this much denatured alcohol and use multiple fans to keep the room well ventilated. If you’ve used a water based paint/primer combo paint you’re going to notice where the water based paint you applied has adhered well to the trim. I’d focus on removing what comes off easy and leave anything that needs serious elbow grease to take off. Some 100 grit sanding might help as well at this point to wear down any areas that don’t want to wipe off. And then I’d just cost over that with the oil based primer. The job I did in this video is 8 months old now and the trim hasn’t shown any trouble yet even though I didn’t get all the water based paint off perfectly.

  • @westfieldartworks8188

    @westfieldartworks8188

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@notwaitingtolive Yeah....I was thinking that about the mask..that did pop into my mind. I was also going to ask you if you used at least some medium grit sandpaper for some of the harder spots. I'm also glad you mentioned in this second post about " not getting all the water based paint off." lol....I was praying you werent going to write MUST REMOVE ALL OF IT -- OR YOU'LL BE SCREWED!! " LOL. But yeah, I really appreciate your time and insight. I'm taking one door and one base board at a time, and getting them prepped right and corrected. Can't let this job fall into chaos....and IT CAN. So thanks man, I appreciate your help...

  • @denisemessier2815
    @denisemessier28153 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for the information.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’re welcome. Glad you found this helpful.

  • @ARJ11569
    @ARJ1156911 ай бұрын

    I need help. I used Kilz interior primer on my exterior walls of my wood building. What should I do to fix this?

  • @ohyessunshine
    @ohyessunshine7 ай бұрын

    Hey!! so I painted my cabinet with Nuvo kit I finished off with oil based finisher which was a mess 😢.. ??once I use an oil based primer can I use the nuvo kit again which is water based and acrylic based?

  • @pablohu6935
    @pablohu6935 Жыл бұрын

    But if I paint with oil paint. What kind of solvent should I use To clean my paint brush?? And if acetone works to take water base paint off and to clean oil base. Is there a way that when I m testing the paint come out too?

  • @maggiesays7827
    @maggiesays782717 күн бұрын

    I just had a room remodeled and wonder if they used primer before painting. The doorway which they painted last seems to be bleeding something brown and gunky. Is it possible they painted over lead based paint causing this?

  • @lydiagreer6944
    @lydiagreer694429 күн бұрын

    Great video

  • @dachreport
    @dachreport Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video. So basically use an solvent based primer on all oil based paint before painting. Can you use solvent based primer on newly plastered walls and use a water based paint over it? Thanks so much 🙏

  • @tipsy2615
    @tipsy26152 жыл бұрын

    I primed my bead board walls with drywall primer how can I fix this to achieve a better painted finish product?

  • @anyat686
    @anyat6863 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making the mistake, so we do not have to. Fair play to you !

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    2 жыл бұрын

    You’re welcome. I have other home improvement tips you might be interested in like the best way to wrap an extension cord: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIl92aZ_eavcdKw.html

  • @louisulrich4474
    @louisulrich4474 Жыл бұрын

    I'm repainting some door trim that shows a lot of paint scratches and discovered water base paint was used over an oil base paint. My question is...can I prime this trim with an oil based primer and then repaint with a fresh coat of water base paint?

  • @SuperFirebird3000
    @SuperFirebird30002 жыл бұрын

    If I paint with pro block oil primer I can paint water based over it once dried? Also what if I used a water based primer over the oil and painted with water based paint?

  • @lavivekiely2907
    @lavivekiely29073 жыл бұрын

    This guy has GREAT tips!

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Your positive feedback means a lot to me.

  • @dominiquew.8181
    @dominiquew.8181 Жыл бұрын

    How about on the ceiling ? I used an oil based paint to cover the stain ? Can I use water paint on the ceiling since it says to paint it after?

  • @CorneliusCharles
    @CorneliusCharles3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot. another tip is to use fine grade sandpaper to prepare the surface before

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great tip. And I agree that's a good, simple, and fast solution. I'm sure people reading the comments will find that helpful. Another type of primer I use is shellac based BIN primer which would cover up oil based paint to allow people to paint with water based paint. I actually just painted a smoke damaged fireplace mantle in this video for a friend using shellac based primer and oil based paint and love how it turned out: kzread.info/dash/bejne/p2akxtyNma7WdLw.html

  • @jrs551
    @jrs5513 жыл бұрын

    My apartment complex did just that you did and I had to fix it as you did

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's a bummer. But at least there's a solution.

  • @roohikaliajain
    @roohikaliajain Жыл бұрын

    Very helpful

  • @danwilliams4270
    @danwilliams4270 Жыл бұрын

    Sand the oil coat, clean with tsp, then prime with zensser cover stain primer, and sand.

  • @doi467
    @doi4672 жыл бұрын

    ty good info....well tought

  • @NSDaishi
    @NSDaishi2 жыл бұрын

    I am here because I made this mistake

  • @user-fs8ie7vm5g
    @user-fs8ie7vm5g5 ай бұрын

    Awesome!

  • @kristir1534
    @kristir15344 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video. I had a huge fail putting water based paint over the oil based on a wall and it just kept peeling with everything touch.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. It happens. The good news is, it's all fixable.

  • @Midget-xv2wm

    @Midget-xv2wm

    4 жыл бұрын

    Prizzy krissy i just did the same thing. Dis you completely remove the water based paint that you accidentally put on before applying the primer or did you jist apply the primer directly over the mistake?

  • @kristir1534

    @kristir1534

    4 жыл бұрын

    Midget0412 no, I had to remove the water based paint first .

  • @Midget-xv2wm

    @Midget-xv2wm

    4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome thank you

  • @mrsstacytaylor
    @mrsstacytaylor Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @DiscipuliChristi
    @DiscipuliChristi2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @dougjones363
    @dougjones3638 ай бұрын

    Good info

  • @redouanegipsy
    @redouanegipsy3 жыл бұрын

    Great video thanks

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. I'm glad you found these painting tips helpful.

  • @pardisghasemi1115
    @pardisghasemi11152 жыл бұрын

    Literally you saved me not to make the same mistake!!!!!!!!!! Oh my god! Thanks for sharing

  • @sandradelgadillo9430
    @sandradelgadillo94302 жыл бұрын

    So how did he fix the problem?

  • @OutbackViking
    @OutbackViking3 жыл бұрын

    Damn.. Thanks for the info. I just finished painting all the trims inside and outside of my house and realized the paint inside isn't sticking correctly. Waterbased on oilbased... Well that's an expensive lesson... Haha.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    2 жыл бұрын

    You’re welcome. The good news is this is the last time we’ll make this mistake. I have other home improvement tips you might be interested in like the best way to wrap an extension cord: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIl92aZ_eavcdKw.html

  • @MegaSeaner
    @MegaSeaner Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Man !

  • @catalinovega7245
    @catalinovega72454 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I was about to do that.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Catalino Vega you’re welcome. I appreciate your feedback.

  • @bagobeasty
    @bagobeasty2 ай бұрын

    What to use now that you can’t buy denatured alcohol in California?

  • @victoriastone2145
    @victoriastone21454 жыл бұрын

    Thanks great vid to the point

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. Happy to help. Thank you for taking the time to leave feedback.

  • @KordTaylor
    @KordTaylor3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! This was great. But I don’t get why painting over an oil-based primer with water-based paint would be better than paining over oil-based paint?

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    2 жыл бұрын

    Primer is not the same as paint, just made out of a similar product. Primer is designed to be painted over by anything. The oil based primer is just a better primer than water based. I have other home improvement tips you might be interested in like the best way to wrap an extension cord: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIl92aZ_eavcdKw.html

  • @mikehubbard5493
    @mikehubbard54932 жыл бұрын

    You could have just sanded the latex surface. I use water based primer for my oil based paint. You just have to let the primer dry for 24 hours. It will dry very slow, but as long as you give it time it's great. If you do not give it the 24 hour dry time it will lift in time.

  • @DaniaDraws
    @DaniaDraws4 жыл бұрын

    Thank You!

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dania Dessine you’re welcome. I’m glad you found this useful.

  • @annmariesimon7308
    @annmariesimon7308 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks 🙏

  • @elizabethsanchez4708
    @elizabethsanchez47083 жыл бұрын

    I made the mistake of painting over oil with latex paint. I did prime before but still starting to peel 😡 thanks for the tip!

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    The good news is it can be fixed. It’ll work out right.

  • @bannana6290
    @bannana6290 Жыл бұрын

    nice man

  • @MaryLightfine
    @MaryLightfine3 жыл бұрын

    My doors and trim were all painted with water based paint over oil (prior to my home purchase). This video was quite helpful. Is there a quicker way to apply the denatured Alcohol? Can I paint it on and then rub larger areas to speed up the process?

  • @EuphemiaGrubb

    @EuphemiaGrubb

    Жыл бұрын

    Mary Lightfine - That's what I was wondering, but I guess we're not going to get the answer here (2yrs later) LOL!

  • @westfieldartworks8188
    @westfieldartworks81884 жыл бұрын

    Oh, one other note. I couldn't understand either why the last painter put down oil based paint in an upstairs bedroom. And besides what you said about easy clean up for stains and spills, there's also the " look " that a lot of people like as far as LESS brushstrokes showing in oil based paint finishes.

  • @MK-ih6wp

    @MK-ih6wp

    4 жыл бұрын

    So oil based paint is more forgiving, ie, hides brush strokes?

  • @westfieldartworks8188

    @westfieldartworks8188

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MK-ih6wp That's correct. I believe because oil based paint is heavier and just lays down better without brushstrokes, that is, if you're looking for the no brushstroke look. Some people like brushstrokes to show as it looks more like a grainy natural wood.

  • @lorifulcher3223
    @lorifulcher32234 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. My boyfriend didn't believe me about the paint. But he heard this and stopped arguing with me, lol.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lori Fulcher my own dad just the other week painted water based paint over the oil based paint I put on his steel gutters. Fortunately I was able to stop him after only 6 feet. It’s one of those things that you don’t know until it causes you pain.

  • @westfieldartworks8188
    @westfieldartworks81884 жыл бұрын

    Oh shit..I made THEE SAME mistake of painting water based over oil. The finish looks like hell. The customer is not happy. I looked up this video for help in the correct process. Ill restart the video and we what ya got for me as far as solutions. But yeah,...lol, I laughed when you said that about your error....cause I'm dealing with the same thing right now.

  • @anilori262
    @anilori2625 ай бұрын

    Watching this video 2 days too late. I painted right over the gloss finish without any type of preparation. The result for me was the new paint dried over the gloss painted brick planter fine, but came out lighter shades of the new color. I was advised, now use a primer. I used Kilz and repainted. Same result. I’m exploring ways to hide the planter. There's no peeling. If it peels later on, I'll be peeling, but definitely not trying a third time.

  • @swordfish1120
    @swordfish11203 жыл бұрын

    Good vid. I like the quick test to determine if the underlying paint is water based or oil based. Do you know if all oil based paint is considered flammable/combustible and therefore require a sprayer to be grounded to avoid being shocked?

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be candid I have sprayed oil based paint out of an airless sprayer and a High Volume Low Pressure sprayer (HVLP) without grounding. But I'm not sure if that's a necessary safety precaution or not.

  • @swordfish1120

    @swordfish1120

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@notwaitingtolive Thanks for the info.

  • @user-1wdcwc4wefw
    @user-1wdcwc4wefw4 жыл бұрын

    Can I put oil base metal paint primer on a latex paint (front door which painted 10years ago) ?

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes. I’ve done this on my own front door. I recommend oil base paint for the front door as well due to the exposure to the elements. I also recommend a spraying a couple layers of clear coat by rustoleum to protect the paint from fading into n the sun.

  • @nestormejia2692
    @nestormejia26923 жыл бұрын

    Primer with cover stain…. Cover stain zinsser is the best!!!! And then finish with aristoshield for Dunn Edwards for kitchen and bathrooms or wood like doors and kitchen cabinets or any wood… regular walls like living rooms or bedrooms used Everest or spartawall for Dunn Edwards also….

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do love zinsser too. I have not used Dunn Edwards paints, will have to try them out.

  • @BambooScar

    @BambooScar

    2 жыл бұрын

    So I cannot use any latex paint on top of cover stain by Zinser?!

  • @thebas8386
    @thebas83863 жыл бұрын

    If I have Oil paint already on a Wooden door frame exterior which primer would be great for me to use to apply to it so that I can do it in a new color after?

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oil based primer. If you’re going light to dark you can tint the primer grey to help block the old color.

  • @citizenA-Z
    @citizenA-Z4 ай бұрын

    oil based primer if oil based paint underneath cover in denatured alcohol, test the sections you will be painting. denaturalise alchlock will wipe off water based paint but not oil based paint

  • @heathergarrison4877
    @heathergarrison48774 жыл бұрын

    I have a question. My bathroom has a oil based paint that has been there for 20+ years. I am ready to paint it a color now. I bought an oil based primer and then I assume I can do that and then use a water based paint after. Am I correct?

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Heather Garrison yes correct. That will work.

  • @dcavic6157
    @dcavic61577 ай бұрын

    I just did my whole bathroom. ceiling, 4 walls and trims... and i got this problem, so it could always be worse hahaha

  • @donnaciaccio2580
    @donnaciaccio25805 ай бұрын

    I used a primer over the oil-based paint before I put on the latex paint and it's still peeling off the walls. Now I have to redo the whole kitchen

  • @sammyat56
    @sammyat564 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. I applied zinseer 123 water based primer over oil based painted kitchen ceiling- cleaned with STP, then used clean strip liquid sander deglosser. Now the primer can be remove with my finder nails. It has taken me hours and hours to scrape a small area on the 12x25 ceiling, a nightmare- denature alcohol that you used is a fuel- (1) is it dangerous to use in a kitchen ceiling? (2) would it remove just the primer and not the oil based paint?

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Raymos S You have a couple options: (the long proper way) sand the ceiling and start over or (the quick fix that won’t last forever) cover the ceiling with a shellac based primer as is (imperfections and all) and roll on a joint compound texture. Using denatured alcohol to wipe paint off the ceiling is a nightmare because the chemical is tough on your lungs and expensive. You’ll be dripping it everywhere and the scrubbing will be incredibly difficult and frustrating. Consider using an electric pole sander like this to save you time scraping the ceiling amzn.to/35m2AHo. You’ll be able to sand the primer off without having to climb up on a ladder. Use a low grit sand paper 40-60. If the ceiling is flat and you’d like to keep it that way use caution. If you damage the ceiling you can always roll on a texture to hide the imperfections. Covering the ceiling with joint compound is not ideal with oil based paint because the joint compound can peel and crack off. Use shellac based primer to cover the water based primer on the ceiling (shellac based primer is twice as expensive as oil based primer but has the best adhering properties) then cover the new coat of primer with joint compound (roll on and texture with proper brush). This will save you hours and hours. My only other comment about denatured alcohol is to use a respirator for chemicals specifically for your health. I have no insight on the flammability of the liquid. It evaporates quickly. But you’ll have to do your own research on how likely it is to ignite. I just don’t know. What are your thoughts?

  • @sammyat56

    @sammyat56

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@notwaitingtolive thanks

  • @samn8309
    @samn83094 жыл бұрын

    I'm about to paint a bathroom and the paint is flaking off everywhere - ceilings, walls and door. It was likely painted decades ago. I'm wondering if sanding might be the way to go since the paint is already coming off. I might have already answered my question but do you think the denatured alcohol is the best way to go? Thanks so much.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sam N I agree with your instincts on this, sand it off. Because of the large amount of surface area you’ll be tackling I recommend using some type of electric pole sander like this amzn.to/34bm6FQ. This will allow you to sand the ceilings and upper walls without getting on ladder. Usually a 5 in 1 tool is enough to tackle small amounts of peeling and flaking in a room, but if it’s truly happening everywhere, using just this tool would be back breaking work. Save time on the ceiling by going with a textured ceiling. Sand off the major chips and flakes and then roll on thinned down joint compound which is patterned randomly with a brush to hide all the imperfections in the ceiling.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Also with that amount of sanding make sure to wear a P100 filter and use a fan to move old air out of and new air into the room. Breathing that amount of dust can really leave you hurting. I’m speaking from too many experiences.

  • @debbriggs5811
    @debbriggs58113 жыл бұрын

    So glad to find you! The walls and ceilings in my house have always been painted in oil paint. I want to paint the walls again but have been informed i cant find oil paint anymore. I like oil paint as it looks mhch nicer and is easier to clean. What do you suggest i get for my walls. Can i find oil paint? Thank you for the tips.

  • @azcaz16

    @azcaz16

    3 жыл бұрын

    sand down all your walls lmao

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    Deb I prefer oil based paint as well in a home. I agree it looks much nicer and easier to clean. But you need to have the patience for the extra dry time (up to a day or more depending on temperature and humidity) and you also need to be extra careful as you'll need to use paint thinner to clean up has drips and your brushes. Here in Ohio oil based paint can be found at Home Depot in quarts. Other states such as Michigan still sell oil based paint in 1 and 5 gallon quantities to the public. But in other states like California I hear oil based paint is very difficult to find, perhaps even banned.

  • @dianawangechi8151

    @dianawangechi8151

    3 жыл бұрын

    Use silk vinyl, it's water based and easy to clean

  • @adrewdio2694
    @adrewdio26944 жыл бұрын

    Great video and have you tried sanding the oil finish off partly with a 160 grit sandpaper, then vacuum, wipe with a clean white rag or tac cloth? A sanding sponge lightly dampened will reduce particles in the air or you can use a sanding block with a vac attachment for reduced dust. I learned a lot with an Artist for 10 years doing Ventian Plaster, Faux finish, etc.. You can see his recent works which involve a blending of old and new methods such as squashing cans, adding coins, keys, found objects, rendered in Art from Greek Mythology (JonathanBressler).

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t for walls but I have sanded cabinets and railings that had oil based polyurethane before painted with positive results. I appreciate your insight. I’ve also found alcohol based primer to work well. I love using the shellac based primer to block wood tannins when painting wood for the first time to keep them from bleeding through and most recently I used it to stop a greasy wall from bleeding through. I’d love to learn Venetian plaster, I’ve seen a couple videos of that on KZread that are simply amazing. I love watching the lost art that some of these painters still practice, I’ll definitely look up his stuff.

  • @pvtwillward
    @pvtwillward3 жыл бұрын

    Hey was curious about coating oils with the same brand and color match but with a water base, I'm guessing my wrinkles are from too thick of 2nd or 3rd coat. I'm painting a 2'x2' sample before painting my finished product 6'x6' panels. My sample turned out perfect, attempted the same on my sign faces and got wrinkling on some edges and two larger areas one on each face.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’re attempting to put water based on top of oil? And it’s wrinkling?

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    If that’s the case you can use a clear binding primer in between the oil and water based coat. Something like this: amzn.to/36QRahG

  • @pvtwillward

    @pvtwillward

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@notwaitingtolive yes and it only did on my big panels, not my test panel. Thank you for the quick reply, maybe in the next ten years when I attempt this again I'll try that. But this current project is getting sanded down to primer, primed again then I'm just sticking to the water based.

  • @CalmVibesVee
    @CalmVibesVee4 жыл бұрын

    So what about an acrylic enamel paint and primer in one over oil based?

  • @tiffanyheilman6119

    @tiffanyheilman6119

    3 жыл бұрын

    Anything that claims to be paint and primer in one is a LIE. It's like 2in1 shampoo and conditioner. Marketing at its best. The only way to use water based paint (acrylic, latex, etc.) over oil based paint is to seal with a good quality oil based primer OR shellac primer.

  • @g3rard747
    @g3rard7473 жыл бұрын

    I use kel-bond ultra is Water base primer instead oil base primer works wonderful 100 % Recommended

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good to know. Water based definitely is better for our health when painting.

  • @rebelde84
    @rebelde84 Жыл бұрын

    I’m no pro but if looks glossy, my first thought will be to sanded it down. I however learned one thing from the video, apply a test chemical.

  • @nancyclifton7159
    @nancyclifton71594 жыл бұрын

    how do you know if your surface has oil based paint on it?

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nancy Clifton if you wipe the surface with denatured alcohol and the paint doesn’t wipe off its oil based (use a colored paper towel or rag to see the pain wiping off). Alternatively you can just use water, but it’s harder to tell. Water based paint will eventually be noticeably affected by water based paint, but some of the semi gloss paints take a little bit longer to break down. Water does not wipe off oil based paint.

  • @DarylMorris-zl5mt
    @DarylMorris-zl5mt Жыл бұрын

    Hello! I have made the mistake of painting over oil based paint with water based (hybrid) paint that was suppose to stick to oil base. After several months of the paint job being completed i noticed a spot that had peeled up. Well…the paint on the entire door easily peels up. My question is..Can i paint over the other doors and trim that hasn’t peeled up with an oil based primer and then go back over with my water based paint?

  • @paulstockley441

    @paulstockley441

    Жыл бұрын

    Best to remove all the loose paint. Sand the old oil based paint down fully (not just a quick rub) and prime with a good quality primer. Water based is fine. Then undercoat and 1to 2 top coats depending on the paint. People think that because it's fast drying it's a quicker job. There's way more prep work involved than with a recoat of oil based paint.

  • @kennethgarrison521
    @kennethgarrison5214 жыл бұрын

    OK, so what is next after the water based paint is removed? OR same question really What should have been done in the first place to the oil based Kilz?

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Starting with an oil based primer or shellac based primer will enable you to follow up with whatever water based paint you want to use.

  • @ryoda120

    @ryoda120

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am planning to paint our doors and trim that had been stained and lacquered. Started with kilz hide all primer which is a water-based primer and noticed once it dried you can scratch some of it off with a moderate to hard scratch. Will that cause a problem after other paint is over top of it and do I need to go back and use an oil based primer?

  • @derekhussey2073
    @derekhussey20734 жыл бұрын

    What if the denatured alcohol does not rub the water based paint from the oil based paint? I did the exact same mistake as you. I learned the hard way.:(

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Derek Hussey 1. Light sand (~100 grit) the surface and wipe off the dust with a tack cloth, doesn’t need to be perfect. (In this video I was not able to get all the water based paint off and it’s still adhering nicely a year later) 2. Apply a dedicated oil based primer over what you previously painted. 3. Apply your water based paint.

  • @Robwestcoast
    @Robwestcoast4 жыл бұрын

    I did this recently in a bathroom. I wonder if a little heat and a scraper will get it to peel off?

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Robwestcoast I haven’t used a heat gun in this application but I’ve read that a $20 gun like this that they sell at Home Depot will soften paint water based paint. amzn.to/2W86HVz If you need to strip the walls you’ll be better off using an electric pole sander to remove what ever isn’t adhering well. For the trim, a wipe down with denatured alcohol and a light pass with 100-grit or so sand paper should get you to the point where you’re ready to cover up what’s needed with an oil based primer.

  • @Izzywizzy74

    @Izzywizzy74

    4 жыл бұрын

    Be there forever!!

  • @desertcat3
    @desertcat34 жыл бұрын

    I'm a complete newbie on paint trying to learn first. How do I know if I have oil or water based paint on my walls... Do I use denatured alcohol...or is that only to remove paint after you make the mistake of painting over oil based

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    desertcat3 water works too for identifying oil based paint. Denatured is just more effective. Use a wet rag that has different color than the paint and try to wipe it off. If you can see the paint coming off it’s water based. If you’re only washing off dirt or grease but no paint that’s oil based paint.

  • @tullysoulliere8103

    @tullysoulliere8103

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@notwaitingtolive I think you can do this test with acetone ( polish remover) as well. Just cheaper and most of us chicks have it on hand (acetone) I seen this tip in a Home Reno VisionDIY vid.Thank I did this mistake to our kitchen cabinets! Biggest pain in the rear ever.

  • @ainartcreativeworkshop5217
    @ainartcreativeworkshop52173 жыл бұрын

    can i paint acrylic paint over old epoxy floor

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    You need to sand the floor first with ~100 grit sand paper to give the paint the ability to adhere to the surface. You can use a pole sander or electric pole sander to make that task a lot easier than doing it by hand amzn.to/3hl64Ao. I'd recommend priming it as well with a bonding primer before painting. Floors take a lot of abuse. I'd recommend using oil based paints on the floor as they'll be more resilient.

  • @sylviaigregu
    @sylviaigregu4 жыл бұрын

    Now, how did you clean it?

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sylvia K I use denatured alcohol to clean up fresh water based paints. I use paint thinner to clean up fresh oil based paints. I use acetone to clean up dried old paint of either type. And in general I simply dust before applying new paint/ primer. Many people will recommend cleaning the surface with TSP (a cleaning solution you can buy at stores like Home Depot) before painting. Another general recommendation is to use a wipe on liquid deglosser on semi gloss or gloss surfaces instead of a primer before painting. I will almost always just paint right over water based paints without cleaning or prime over oil based paints without cleaning.

  • @c.m5043
    @c.m5043 Жыл бұрын

    Iv literally just done exactly this 😭. Painted three doors and trims in my house with satin and realised its all peeling off. Do you need to sand before applying primer? Also does the primer have to be oil based?

  • @sexyhotd0g

    @sexyhotd0g

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes and probably Yes too. When we have oil based trims we always sand and use an oil based undercoat ( I think is just more durable than water based primer)

  • @sexyhotd0g

    @sexyhotd0g

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't forget to wipe it out all dust with a damp clean rag before you apply the primer too.

  • @GMOriginal3
    @GMOriginal34 жыл бұрын

    How can I paint over a semigloss wall with flat paint without sanding? I painted this wall with semigloss by mistake yesterday.. 🤦🏻‍♂️ whats my options? Thanks in advance!

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    R G There are two steps to going from a semi gloss to a flat. The cheapest route (but maybe not as effective) is to wash the wall with TSP (trisodium phosphate). This is a common cleaning solution they sell at Home Depot that is what most painters use for prep work. amzn.to/2PmiGdk Alternatively you can use a more expensive liquid sand paper/deglosser which is designed for removing sheen. But this will cost serval times more than just using TSP. amzn.to/3a2OAp3 Then no matter what you use to clean the wall, prime over the wall with a dedicated primer (not a paint and primer combo) before painting. amzn.to/2ELNmmo P.S. flat paint is very sensitive to scuffing and marks. A lot of builders use flat on the wall just to save money and hide imprecations because the lack of sheen makes defects harder to spot. I highly recommend using BEHR extra durable flat when painting flat on walls. I use this paint when painting garage walls which are usually full of defects and susceptible to scuffing. www.behr.com/consumer/products/interior-paint-and-primer/behr-ultra-interior/behr-ultra-scuff-defense

  • @GMOriginal3

    @GMOriginal3

    4 жыл бұрын

    not waiting to live thank you very much for the info!! I guess no matter what I will have a lot of work! :( what happen if I just apply flat paint on top or the semi-gloss? Can it survive without touching it? Cause these walls i painted start at 6ft up to the ceiling. So no body are going to touch them. The question is if it would survive years even without touching it.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    R G the semi gloss sheen will shine through the flat making it still appear glossy. The most important action you can take to knock down the sheen and give the flat paint the best chance at adhering well is to prime the wall with a dedicated primer.

  • @GMOriginal3

    @GMOriginal3

    4 жыл бұрын

    not waiting to live ok thanks!

  • @jhljhl2207
    @jhljhl2207 Жыл бұрын

    Sherwin Williams claims emerald urethane trim enamel will go over oil as long as you scuff it

  • @stuartwilliams8663
    @stuartwilliams86633 жыл бұрын

    You only have to give a key ( gentle sanding )then use a water based undercoat. Done this for years no issues.

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your experience.

  • @chrisg9817
    @chrisg98174 жыл бұрын

    I'm a bit confused. Before painting over oil based painted wall with oil based primer, I'll have to remove all the water based paint or just clean/sand what's peeling? Darn it, my 80 year old father has been doing the painting himself for his 40yr old house. Now I know why we've had this problem...Would just painting over with the oil based primer be enough to get it ready for water based paint? (please say yes🤞)

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Chris G I’d recommend using a pole sander like this to lightly sand off what you can from the wall: amzn.to/3hexyY3 You need to peel back whatever’s flaking or peeling but not any deeper than that. Scuffing up the rest of the wall should help agitate anything else that wants to peel off in the near future. You don’t have to get rid of every little bit of water based paint. I only removed what I could get off at the time in this video and the paint is still adhering well since painting last summer. Let us know how it works out.

  • @chrisg9817

    @chrisg9817

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@notwaitingtolive thank you for taking the time to respond. I really appreciate your knowledge. My father bought this old, two story, house as a fixer upper 40 years ago & has done the work himself (he thinks he can do anything. Even fly a plane if u let him, ha ha ha. It's why he's the best dad in the world!). Anyway being a "girl dad" of 5 females, no sons, he has done the work pretty much on his own (it's been a never ending project). Oh & did I mention it's a "duplex"? He's now 80 & still working on it, SMH. My sister's & I have painted through the recent years & would run into this problem. We would just keep it that way & tried not to touch the walls lol. This time I decided to do some research first, thank God I did. I'm sure my Dad will be very excited when he hears he now can have a new project, helping me sand off walls. Did I mention I have the best Dad in the world? :-)

  • @BambooScar
    @BambooScar2 жыл бұрын

    Wait so I can’t paint over my oil based stain blocker primer with latex?! That’s what I was told to do at the store. So I need to paint with an oil based paint?!

  • @notwaitingtolive

    @notwaitingtolive

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can paint over any primer with any paint. You can’t paint water based paint over oil based paint without prepping the surface first

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