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@MDR-ow1uv

4 жыл бұрын

1 Corinthians 15:28 28 Then, when all things are under his authority, the Son will put himself under God’s authority, so that God, who gave his Son authority over all things, will be utterly supreme over everything everywhere. Paul said: Acts 24:14 14 But this I admit to you, that according to the Way, which they call a sect, I worship the God of our ancestors, believing everything laid down according to the law and written in the prophets. 1 Timothy 2:5 5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Yehovah said: Hosea 11:9 9 I will not give vent to the fierceness of my rage, I will not return to destroy Efrayim; for I am God, not a human being, the Holy One among you; so I will not come in fury. Isaiah 45:21 21 Declare and present your case; let them take counsel together! Who told this long ago? Who declared it of old? Was it not I, the Lord? There is no other god besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is no one besides me.

@acesin-et7pp

Жыл бұрын

Isnt 1 John 1:5-7 considered a forgery by christian scholars as it is no where in any older manuscript before 1600's

God is good indeed.He freely reveals His truth to those who earnestly seek Him. May he continue using you my brother for His glory. and protect you

Amen brother Mansour~Clearly understood, from your videos, he truth about the trinity~and so happy to finally get this...even as a child and a methodist growing up, it and many other things bothered me...thank you so much for sharing this truth. The videos and site with reading materials are also very much appreciated-esp observing sabbath alone on God's holy day~

@OurHumbleLife

6 жыл бұрын

What muslims?? Where?

@sasquatchmeridian3094

6 жыл бұрын

The Verdant Christian: name calling is hardly a Christian attribute...perhaps the only verdancy here is in the greeness of your walk with Christ?

Excellent study on this scripture, including great support from the SDA Biblical Research Institute not to rely on it, which hopefully will lead deceived SDA's back to the truth held by the founders. If they just read all of 1 John, exclusive of this added text, coupled with John 17:3 and Matthew 16:16-18 to quote a few, it is crystal clear what Jesus is telling us -- and "this is life eternal", so of critical importance for us to understand. It breaks my heart to see the success Satan has had in deceiving the whole world, even God's "remnant church" that is casting aside the great light it was given. I am so very grateful that as I continue to seek after Him with all my heart, soul and mind, He continues to open up His Word to reveal more truth. Praise our awesome, mighty and loving God, who never changes and is not the author of confusion.

1 John 5:7 is a latter assertion. It's not written in the older found manuscripts.

@terencescott6333

6 жыл бұрын

Yup. Not found in any Greek manuscript before the 16th century.

@tommyboyfitness

6 жыл бұрын

Just because you have a Bible from Egypt that’s your problem I have a real Bible

@earthisnotaball

6 жыл бұрын

What about 1John 5:8?

@INRI_BIBLICAL_THEOLOGY

5 жыл бұрын

Terence Scott Yeah your clearly wrong. It exists in a Greek Manuscript known as "Codex 629" that's dated to the 14th Century. That's before Erasmus, and the 16th Century! Stop listening to Men who call themselves "SCHOLARS" and START LISTENING TO GOD!!!

@peterstewart3093

5 жыл бұрын

what is a real Bible .

Thanks Nader - Very good and clear presentation !!!!

John 1:1 (KJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

@missmartpants2269

Ай бұрын

Right? Also Job said that The Spirit made him...also equating Jesus to the Spirit because we know Jesus created all things. God bless!

Thank you for this explanation. Your presentation is clear and well done.

@follow_the_way

Жыл бұрын

Too bad it is a false teaching that he gives about the trinity.

Wow, brilliant, many thanks!

Great revelation!

Crystal clear, presented very well. God bless. Salute.

Praise the Lord for this clear teaching of you, Amen. GBU.

@johannestigorpanjaitan1888

3 жыл бұрын

@gherrrie Wrong ? Ask Jesus. Mathew 11:27.

Glory Hallelujah Christ Jesus!!! Thank you for your teaching of the Word. May the LORD God continue to sanctify us with the Truth; for His Word is the Truth. (John 17:17) Abba Father God bless you 🙏😇🙌🙏😇 🙌

Your analysis reminds me of Romans1:22: "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools". Get one drop of water, add another drop to it, then a third one, and what to you get? ONE drop of water of course. Simple, don't complicate things. Observe the K.I.S.S. principle (Keep It Simple Stupid!).

@RowanTasmanian

2 жыл бұрын

great reply and I love the three drops of water analogy.

@wycliffecharles5094

6 ай бұрын

So do I .... I think what these people need is a heart of flesh to accept the plainly revealed truth in the word of God

@wycliffecharles5094

6 ай бұрын

For they exchange the truth for lie

Mr. Mansour, I would like to thank you for your wonderful insight on this verse. I respect your intelligence, and I would like for you to do another video on this verse after you do what I'm going to ask you to do. My request is that you read the entire chapter of 1 John and see if anything would be lost in its contents if you omitted both 1 John 5:7-8. When I read this chapter it seems as if both of these verses a parenthetical.

@Revelation1412org

7 жыл бұрын

That's true.

VERY WELL EXPLAINED BROTHER NADER MANSOOR. MAY LORD JESUS BLESS, OU MORE. AMEN

Very well said sir

Excellent... Pastor Mansour slams the Sonship ball out of the park! Homerun!!

Thankyou God our Father for giving this to Nadar. Now I have a clear understanding and now can share this to all Trinitarian.

@florinlaiu

7 жыл бұрын

Compared to the Muslim faith, Mader‘s is in progress. But compared to the Biblical one, it is still lacking complete Bible harmony. INstead of preaching such things, he should preach the Gospel and meantime learn sufficient Biblical theology. His misfortune is that he was trapped in an anti-Trinitarian group, a former-Adventist faction who is now fighting with the Church they abandoned.

@samename6479

6 жыл бұрын

Receive the Spirit of God Almighty & he will show you all truth.

@basilhendricks788

4 жыл бұрын

Everything about Jesus is difficult to understand his birth his lifestyle his miracles ,his preaching in the temple ,him predicting his death and predicting his resurrection then all his disciples met him after his death and saw his wounds ,what can Islam just not understand ,I needed faith to believe the Bible and I accept everything in it

@basilhendricks788

4 жыл бұрын

Muslims are now trying to degrade Jesus by calling him Issah and saying many things about Jesus, answer this Proverbs 30 verse 4 it's in the old testament written many thousands of years before the Koran so incase Muslims don't read verse 4 who has ascended into heaven who has gathered the winds in his fist, what is his name and what is his Son's name, if you know, not to difficult to see but if you are blind you cannot see

@jannewells

3 жыл бұрын

See the documentary: "A Divine Sonship" on KZread 👍🌿

Point of correct brother. When you experience a situation like this please use Strongs concordance to check the original word in Greek. To bear witness, to bear record are verbs bn transliterated in Greek as matureo. The witness, the record are nouns transliterated as maturia.

The Comma Johanneum, also called the Johannine Comma or the Heavenly Witnesses, is a comma (a short clause) found in Latin manuscripts of the First Epistle of John at 5:7-8.

Literally, the concept of the trinity is in the first book of the Bible, Genesis 1:26 and 1:27. The author uses the plural pronoun "our" for God. Then in verse 27 the author uses a singular pronoun "Him" for God

@gia4554

2 жыл бұрын

I thought that it was referring to the trinity too! but in a lot of common ancient (and some current) languages, when one is referred to as a “we” it really means a plural of majesties. sometimes, king david is referred to as “kings David” while, there weren’t more than one king David, it was made plural to honor him more and to give him a majestic view. this happened in Egyptian too, Moses’ original language. So, when referring to God as a ‘we’ or ‘our’ it’s much more likely he was trying to give glory to God, by honoring His name and giving Him praise by the way he refers to Him. I wish I could remember what other examples I have, but that’s all I can remember for now. God bless !

@EbenFuller

3 ай бұрын

Genesis 1:26 and 1:27 could simply be in plural form to articulate "the royal we" for God's great majesty... or also these texts could indicate plurality for both Father and Son... not necessarily meaning three or more persons... thus it does not confirm nor inherently prove the so-called Trinity doctrine.

@shirikaniyonkuru5573

28 күн бұрын

Did God talk to himself? ( Let's make a human in our Image) He was talking to his only begotten son who's his Image. Trinity is not biblical.

Was the quote you read from the SDA Bible commentary, was that written by Ellen white? Thank you.

so true !

Clear and simple.

This verse is not in the original manuscripts. It was added by the Catholics. It’s noted in the footnotes in most bibles.

Acts 5:1-4 (KJV), The Holy Ghost and God are One. Without controversy and seamlessly. Let no man deceive you by any means. 1 John 5:8 (KJV) These three testify, bear witness, that the three, 1 John 5:7 (KJV) are One.

@asdf-th8jr

3 жыл бұрын

@Aubrey Shatner verry good explanation do u think that jesus is godly being separete from YHWH or u think he is not God what do u think

@5740902

Жыл бұрын

YHWH actually means Jesus in Hebrew look it up.

This is so straightforward. Thanks!

Be mansour what do you think about the hell doctrine

Very good

"and these three are one" In 1JOHN 5:7 were added to the scripture. Many, even the NIV Bible, say that this phrase were added and was not in the original.

The trinity theories have earned characterizations like ‘absurd’ and ‘ridiculous’ the entire narrative of Scripture relies on the proper relationship of the Father and Son. . The Vineyard owner, the headship principal, even that mankind is made in His image.. all depend on individual identity.

@michaelwesonga4511

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed we can do nothing against the truth but for the truth

Genesis 18:1-3 please read this The LORD appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. 18:2 Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground. 18: He said, "If I have found favor in your eyes, my lord, do not pass your servant by. Why GOD is 3 men and why Abraham say my LORD 1 to them

@memphis82eh

5 жыл бұрын

1:26 Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image,he said us in our GOD is all ready talking to JESUS and the HOLY SPIRIT

@dimitris_zaha

5 жыл бұрын

@@memphis82eh 1:26 you mean

@memphis82eh

5 жыл бұрын

dimitris zah 999 yes sorry 👍🏼thanks bro

It's simple in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. Who is the word? Rightly divide the word of truth brothers. Take the whole bible and put it into context. Jesus said father glorify me in your presence with the glory I had before the world began,. Again what glory did jesus have before? He was the word. What was the word? God.

@UnderGOD81

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome! God bless u brother.

@glennrobinson7193

3 жыл бұрын

@@UnderGOD81 Awethum awethum awethum. The language of simpletons

@JesusRamirez-hv5wj

11 ай бұрын

That is an interpolation by the church. Same as jhon 5:7 Same as the end of mark. They added 12 verses and the list goes on

@BoriPR82

11 ай бұрын

@@JesusRamirez-hv5wj that is false john 1 is not an interpolation stop lying. Be honest, we know what was added was was taken out we are honest with the scriptures. John 1 matches all of our earliest sources. Try again

@scottblow7154

8 ай бұрын

It's not simple. The first Christians apposed trinity teachings. Constantine forced it in. It is a Babylonia lie. There is one true God. He created Jesus and all things through Jesus. God can not lie God can not die. The Bible is very clear. God resurrected his Son. God said Jesus is his Son who inherited the Kingdom. How does one father himself? Is God a liar or man

Amen!

Early Church Fathers have quoted John 5:7. even before the Vulgate and the Alexandrian Codices. This proves it's original, but I do agree with your analogy, as it's correct. Cyprian (AD. 200 - 258) Ante Nicene Fathers (Volume 5) Page 742.

Jesus is The Word. The word created the heavens and the earth.

That's not an accurate translation. The most up-to-date translation is "the Spirit, the water, and the blood, and the three are of one accord."

Hi Ps. Nader, thanks for this beutiful presentation. I have a question in mind, if the holly spirit is not other than The Father and Son, why its mentioned? John could simply put The Father and Christ as Witnesses. Thank you Pastor.

Thank you so much. But question..doesn't the verse indicate that the holy spirit is a person?

setting aside the 1 john 5:7 argument.... just on the face value of these words-->" For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." do u believe that there are three in heaven that bear record of your name written in the book of Life?

A circumstantial case for the Comma of John: In 484 A.D. the bishop of Carthage with 400 bishops quoted the comma to an Arian Vandal king. Being the bishop of Carthage, he would have had access to the Scriptures of Cyprian, and he probably had a Vulgate, maybe a first edition. Also, Gregory Nazianzus wrote on the grammar, and he had a student named Jerome. Seems strong evidence to me. Blessings.

Amen.

The best explanation about the Johannine Comma (also called the Comma Johanneum), which I ever heard.

@timothys4864

Жыл бұрын

Glory to Jesus the true God. Praise the triune God.

@RalfBiermann777

10 ай бұрын

@@timothys4864 The meaning is totally different.

@timothys4864

10 ай бұрын

@RalfBiermann777 Are you trying to convince me that the trinity is false?

@RalfBiermann777

10 ай бұрын

@@timothys4864 1John 5: 7 has a different meaning.

@timothys4864

10 ай бұрын

@@RalfBiermann777 Are you trying to convince me that the trinity is false?

The verse 1 John 5:7b added much later 1 John 5:7-8 (KJV) "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." How it should be translated below. The three witness are the Spirit, the water, and the blood testifying that Jesus is the Messiah 1 John 5:7-8 (NASB) "For there are three that testify: 8 the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement."

Hello Nader, If we remove the Holy spirit part of THE NICENE CREED, would it be acceptable as the summary of our belief? I don't understand how Catholics worship Trinity, but in THE NICENE CREED that they pray every Sunday, they say it with their own lips " Begotten not made", its clear here that begotten does not refer to UNIQUE.

@Revelation1412org

6 жыл бұрын

I'm not an expert on what the Creed says. I go by the Bible.

The funny thing is this translate only exist in kjv only will the other translations different than kjv, thats why we need original text as refferences

I was a Unitarian at one time but the trinity cannot be denied! And I know that the verse in question may have been added. Nevertheless the truth of the matter is that Christ was crucified for blasphemy ! Mark 2:7 And John 10:33 The Lord Jesus Christ forgives sins as only God can do and the Lord Jesus Christ testifies of the father as only someone who is equal to the other can do! According to the law of Moses testimony of two or three witnesses is sufficient to establish the truth! Deuteronomy 17:6 2 Corinthians 13:1 ect In the Trinity we have three witnesses, the spirit and son testify of the father. The father and the son testify the spirit. And the father and the spirit testify of the son! Read John 1- Colossians 1- Hebrews 1 testifies of the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ and our permission to worship Him, as well as many other scriptures! If we were to ask did God create the world or did Jesus create the world the answer can only be Yes!😄 The Lord himself asks the question what if you see the Son of Man return to heaven from whence he came, which statement attests to the pre-incarnation of the word of God! Finally in considering the attributes of God i.e. all powerful and all knowing and everywhere present, Logic tells you that if you have one you have all three!

@Revelation1412org

4 жыл бұрын

Logic also tells you that if you have such an all powerful being then why need three of the same? God's word, not logic, is how we learn about God. The Trinity contradicts God's word.

@vmre

4 жыл бұрын

@@Revelation1412org n the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

@wapperjaw8282

3 жыл бұрын

1) He was accused of Blasphemy but he was not executed for Blasphemy, “. . .Many of the Jews read this title, because the place where Jesus was nailed to the stake was near the city, and it was written in Hebrew, in Latin, and in Greek. 21 However, the chief priests of the Jews said to Pilate: “Do not write, ‘The King of the Jews,’ but that he said, ‘I am King of the Jews.’” 22 Pilate answered: “What I have written, I have written.”” John 19:20-22 2) God gave him the assignment for Judging for proving Satan a Liar and keeping his integrity to his Father. Mark 2:7 Is the Jews not accepting Jesus Authority that was *given* to him Mt 28:18. That authority was given to Jesus by his Father ... that is far from making them equal. If it was given to you that means you did not have tell the person that has it gave it to you. 3) Two separate witnesses does not add up to one! 4) Appears you didn't watch the video 1 john 5:7 is a spurious addition caught by the church's own critiques and scholars ... Adding to God's word is BAD!!! 5) Hebrews 1 "And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him." - Heb 1:6 Jesus was the first creation by his Father. Right there in Black and white. You can change the meaning of words or twist the scripture ... that does not change the true meaning! Lexicon :: Strong's H3205 - yalad to bear, bring forth, beget, gender, travail (Qal) to bear, bring forth of child birth of distress (simile) of wicked (behaviour) to beget (Niphal) to be born (Piel) to cause or help to bring forth to assist or tend as a midwife midwife (participle) (Pual) to be born (Hiphil) to beget (a child) to bear (fig. - of wicked bringing forth iniquity) (Hophal) day of birth, birthday (infinitive) (Hithpael) to declare one's birth (pedigree) 6) The Trinity is far from logic plus it not even describe in the scripture. There are so many contradict this teaching is a Satanic joke. The Trinity contradicts and according to 2 Timothy 3:16,17 ... that not allowed! Example John 8:28 Jesus was *taught* by his Father? When is the teacher equal to the student?

So 1st John 5:7 is wrong to use right ? I think I heard you say they bear record the 3 and they are one I believe you about this you opened up my eyes of understanding I didn't see that before I was just focused on the Father Son Holy Spirit as being a trinity doctrine I left out the rest of the scripture but now I know to take into consideration the whole scripture not just half of it thank you sir for opening my eyes of understanding lol Paul Schilling Please Pray for me Sir Ask God the Father to help me understand him better lol

Thanks ,Pastor Nader Mansour excellent video

@UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN

5 жыл бұрын

17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I WAS DEAD, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades. WHO IS THIS THAT DIED???

@UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN

4 жыл бұрын

Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; 7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature[b] of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death- even death on a cross! can you makes sense of this if a you are a unitarian?

Little side note ... the Greek word "eis" translated "one" here in 1 John 5:7, 8 does not mean a truine god. If it did, there is a huge problem. Jesus used the same Greek word "eis" concerning his followers in prayer saying, "I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word,21so that they may all be *one,* just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me.22*I have given them the glory that you have given me,* in order that they may be *one* just as we are *one.*23I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be *perfected into one,* so that the *world may know that you sent me* and that you loved them just as you loved me." - John 17:20-23 Every time you read the translated Greek word, "eis" is used concerning all (the Apostles, Disciple of then and future, Jehovah\Yahweh God, and Jesus) are viewed as one. So if you wish to believe the the Greek word one means a triune god, then you have to also include the Apostles, Disciple of then and future! Yep huge problem now we are not talking just 3 but for it turns into millions ... So yes even if it was authentic in the scripture, it does not testify to a Trinity god. The word "eis" simply means one in union, bearing record of agreement. There is nothing in scripture that says all 3 are "eis theos". It called going beyond what is written adding context to scripture that not there ... which is also called lying.

Yes

Pretty clear there are 3 persons in the Godhead.

@marshamacmartin4769

3 жыл бұрын

One God ...three parts

@kiwihans100

3 жыл бұрын

Then why go to the devious length of inserting a verse in the bible that wasnt written by God's inspired writers? Every trasnslation that twists certain texts to favour the trinity have been shown to be erroneous! Why believe in a doctrine not claimed till 300 years AFTER Jesus and the apostles? Nowhere in the bible does it say; 'God the father, God the son. God the Holy spirit'

@trishwilliams5232

3 жыл бұрын

@@kiwihans100 The Bible explicitly declares the Holy Spirit as God. "Now the Lord is the Spirit." 2 Cor 3:17; see Acts 5:3, 4. Two parallel Bible passages identify "the voice of the Lord" (Isa. 6:8, 9) with "the Holy Spirit" (Acts 28;25, 26). Besides, the Spirit possesses the exclusive attributes of divinity: goodness (Nehemiah 9:20), eternity (Hebrews 9:14) omnipresence (Psalm 139:7), life (Rom 8:2), grace (Heb 10:29), prophecy (Rev 19:10), truth (John 14:17; 15:26), holiness (Rom 1:4), wisdom and revelation (Eph 1:17), and glory (1 Peter 4:14). The inspired Bible writers address the Holy Spirit by the personal pronouns "He, Him, Himself, and whom." Only persons/people are called by these pronouns. If the Holy Spirit represented various aspects of God, the Holy Spirit would only be referred to by the pronoun "it" and its derivatives. Some may argue: if the Holy Spirit is a member of the Godhead, why does He not appear every time the Father and the Son are mentioned? Some mention the Son and the Spirit and omit the Father. The special mission of the Holy Spirit, beyond the mutual witnessing at work within divinity, is to testify of the Son: John 16:13, 14. The Spirit's role is to testify of Jesus and to impress on the minds and hearts of believers the words of Christ. John 15:26. Why is it important to have a right and biblical conception of the Holy Spirit? "Every sin and blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men, either in this age or in the age to come." Matthew 12:31, 32. The mission of the Holy Spirit is so important that denying, diminishing or distracting from it can have disastrous and eternal consequences for the individual's salvation.

@kiwihans100

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Trish, youve really done your homework here! Best to answer just one point at a time. The quote at Cor 3:17 was only partly mentioned. It goes on to say; "And where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty". So how can God be the spirit and it be spoken of as God's spirit, that is His? ( see Psm 104:30). The expression 'God's Spirit' is mentioned almost as many times as 'God's Son. So the Bible is telling me that the father is supreme. He is in complete control of His spirit, his son, everything. It all belongs to him. He poured out some of His spirit at pentecost. ( Acts 2:17. Greek 'of my' 'from my' 'some of my'). Hardly a person & equel to the Father if 'some of it can be poured out on people'? By Him as well?

@trishwilliams5232

3 жыл бұрын

@@kiwihans100 I thought I explained it rather well. As I pointed out, The Holy Spirit does not speak of Himself but exalts the Son. The Spirit of Christ, The Spirit of God, The Holy Ghost, The Comforter, The Spirit of Truth. The Christians who believe the Holy Spirit is just a force or power that exudes from the Father and Son cannot explain what they mean. That is a Trinity Babylonian doctrine. The Holy Spirit has all the attributes of a person. Can you lie to a force or power that exudes from the Father and the Son? Jesus is called the Everlasting Father and the Son and the Spirit are separate entities the same way the Father and the Son are distinct from each other. Jesus said upon His ascension that He would send ANOTHER COMFORTER John 14:16. Some may twist semantics but ANOTHER denotes distinctness, not sameness. "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all." Amen

Look at SDA Bible Commentary Vol 7, p 675 : '‘The disputed words have been widely used in support of the Doctrine of the Trinity, but in view of such overwhelming evidence against their authenticity, their support is valueless and should not be used…..It is now generally held that this passage called the “Comma Johanneum” is a gloss that crept into the Old Latin and Vulgate at an early date but found its way into the Greek text only in the 15th and 16th centuries.’ If you research further, the comment was put in pencil in the margin by one of the translators of the King James Version as a personal opinion, and accidentally included in the text . It is not included in most other translations.

Wow greatest video ever

@dimitris_zaha

5 жыл бұрын

Worst*

Well presentation it is truth according to the scripture 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@RB-jl8sm

4 жыл бұрын

I see. So we actually have 3 Gods?

@andrewkyando3750

4 жыл бұрын

@@RB-jl8sm no!!! for me i knew that there is only one God and one lord Jesus Christ and is everywhere by his holy spirit of him and his son.

@RB-jl8sm

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewkyando3750 And you are correct about having only one God! But i dont understand the part you said that the only God is Jesus and His Son...? Didnt Jesus say that He is the Son of God?

@vmre

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewkyando3750 John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Is the criticism of 1 John 5:7 that John never wrote it or that he did write it but omitted it?

@johnfox2861

7 жыл бұрын

It is that John never wrote it. It is known as the Johannine Comma. Scoffield Reference Bible notes says "It is generally agreed that v.7 has no real authority, and has been inserted. 1Jo 5:7." A.T Robertson's commentary says "Some Latin scribe caught up Cyprian's exegesis and wrote it on the margin of his text, and so it got into the Vulgate and finally into the Textus Receptus by the stupidity of Erasmus. " Barnes notes says "I. It is wanting in all the earlier Greek manuscripts, for it is found in no Greek Ms. written before the sixteenth century. Indeed, it is found in only two Greek manuscripts of any age--one the Codex Montfortianus, or Britannicus, written in the beginning of the sixteenth century, and the other the Codex Ravianus, which is a mere transcript of the text, taken partly from the third edition of Stephen's New Testament, and partly from the Complutensian Polyglott. But it is incredible that a genuine passage of the New Testament should be wanting in all the early Greek manuscripts. II. It is wanting in the earliest versions, and, indeed, in a large part of the versions of the New Testament which have been made in all former times. It is wanting in both the Syriac versions--one of which was made probably in the first century; in the Coptic, Armenian, Sclavonic, Ehiopic, and Arabic."

Amen🙏🙏

“The three are one”. Cannot and does not mean only they all have the same testimony. Because that sentence doesnt mean that. “These three are one”. Is an added fact. No one has ever said three people making the same claim “are one”.

John 17:12 When I was with them in the world, I kept them in your name. Those that you gave me, I kept and not one of them was lost, only the son of the lost, so that what was written might be fulfilled. so Judas didn't have free will? simply so that what is written will be fulfilled? so please brother explain to this.

Why.not start at 1 John 4 v 12 to 15 then 1 John 5 v5. Please read Psalm 83 v18 and Mark 10 v18.

@ajbobbidy

3 жыл бұрын

So what are you saying?

Missing the whole point completely. Taking 2 words from 1 verse and basing an entire assumption about who God is or isn't, is just like taking 2 pieces of rice and calling it rice pudding. It's as empty as empty can be.

To some degree we need to take some grains from both notions, as we have Isaiah 9:6 “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” .... this would be Jesus is here referred to as the "The everlasting Father" not son now.

@Revelation1412org

6 жыл бұрын

He's OUR everlasting Father in the context of the plan of salvation. It's also known as the last Adam. He is the one through whom we are born again, hence the reference to him being our Father. It's not a denial of his relationship to HIS Father.

I have realized that people have a problem with the word trinity,but how does I explain the plurality of God. Be because evidently God expresses as so, I and my father are one. This one is not singler, the very fact that he use are speaks of plurality

John 1:1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the *Word was with God* , and the *Word was God* . John 1:14 14 And the Word was *made flesh* , and *dwelt among us* , (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Word = Jesus= God= Trinity *Checkmate*

@tysonvslewis12

2 жыл бұрын

Facts! If christ was not god tyen how did he have god like powers such as the ability to forgive sins. Also if christ was not god then why did the jews crucify u Him? Well, because when claimed to have the authority to forgive sins he was telling them I AM CLAIMING TO BE GOD. the Jews clearly understood this claim to be exsctly that. That is why is why he was crucified

@timothys4864

Жыл бұрын

@@tysonvslewis12 Glory to Jesus the true God. Praise the triune God.

Elohim it's one of the names of God. (Genesis 1) Elohim it's plural and plural in hebrew starts from 3 (1=singular 2=dual 3=plural) Elohim it's One but it's plural. In Genesis 19:24 you have 2x Lords one in heaven and one on earth. (See genesis 18 for context) A tri-un God makes sense.

Paul said we serve Jesus, how is we serve onlt God? Job said The Spirit made him, amd we Know Jesus did that. God bless!

IT PLEASE THE FATHER THAT IN HIM DWELL IT THE FULLNESS OF GODHEAD, THAT ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS

@kjvacp

4 жыл бұрын

@Henry Santiago yes because the Holy Spirit which dwells in us is ALSO the "fullness" of God.

@kjvacp

4 жыл бұрын

@Henry Santiago he is part of the Godhead.

@stevehumphries4928

3 жыл бұрын

What is this fullness this verse is referring to? See verse 2:3 "... all the treasures of wisdom and of knowledge ..." How did Jesus receive this wisdom and knowledge??? As the scriptures show he was *taught* (John 8:28) by his Father and he did the things pleasing to his Father. What if Jesus did not please the Father? He did not have it till he pleased the Father! That tells us they are not on equal terms! What if Jesus was not taught by his Father? The student is not equal to the Father ...

@kjvacp

3 жыл бұрын

@Sham Wow For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and 👉Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:20 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the 👉Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. Acts 17:29 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the 👉Godhead bodily. Colossians 2:9

Did research and this wasn’t in any Greek manuscript till 1600 AD so it wasn’t in any off the old manuscript. Why

The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit not another person.....John 4:24 God is Spirit.....hmm.... And God is Holy.. God is Holy.... God is Spirit.... God is Holy Spirit. Anytime you drift into more than one god it's polytheism no matter how you bake it. Thank you bro

7: For there are Three witnesses in HEAVEN 8: For there are Three witnesses on EARTH Earth and Heaven are not the same. These three are one and These three agree in one are not the same also.

@youthchildofgod7381

4 жыл бұрын

Rogie Pañares Music The problem is how can we fit the 3 bearing record in heaven in the context of 1 John 5? Because the entire passage talks about how Jesus is the Son of God, and how believing in Jesus being Gods son makes you born of God, how does some random declaration of the Trinity fit into this passage?

@mcabcari7255

4 жыл бұрын

@@youthchildofgod7381 Yes, even if the entire passage talks about Jesus as the Son of God, you CANNOT avoid the FACT that the BIG 3 (Father, Word/Son and Holy Spirit) are AGAIN mentioned here, TOGETHER IN UNITY, AS ONE! You ask, "how does some random declaration of the Trinity fit into this passage?" Random? . . . Let's see . . . "TRI" means 3 (three) . . . "UNITY" means UNITED - DOES NOT CONTRADICT ONE ANOTHER = TRINITY!!! That is right Nader Mansour, you said it right "they are one in bearing the same record, their record and witness are one and the same" Why is it the same? Because they, Father, Son and Holy Spirit make up the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD of the Bible! It is IMPOSSIBLE for them to CONTRADICT each other!

@wapperjaw8282

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcabcari7255 Jesus denying equality with his Father CONTRADICTs equality with his Father, by his own testimony -John 5:19. And just because the 3 names or 3 titles are in a sentence does not make them equal any more than saying Tom, Dick, and Harry in the same sentence make them equal or a Trinity. There's not one scripture that say's there equal! “Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. John 17:11” KJV Jesus prayed that just as he and his Father are “one,” his true followers would be “one” in working together for the same purpose demonstrating cooperation and unity of thought, that does not mean their all equal! The thoughts expressed in this prayer echo Jesus’ words recorded at Joh 10:30. There he states that he and the Father “are one” in connection with their dealings with his disciples, his “sheep,” who are *given* to him by the Father. (Joh 10:25-30; 17:2, 9) The Greek word here rendered “one” is in the neuter gender (denoting “one thing”), not in the masculine gender (denoting “one person”). So your reasoning is invalid not only in scripture but also in the English language. Being united does not mean they are equal. By your understanding of the word one, you make Jesus Followers equal with God! Are they also part of the Trinity? Now it’s not the Trinity, is it? The Trinity doctrine does NOT fit in the Bible, because it is a contradiction of the entire context of the Bible ... it's not even described or taught and 2 Tim 3:16,17 tells it has to be ...

Context is key....even rabbii say Christians we don't contextualize

The eternal Godhead-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost-is involved in the action required to make assurance to the human agent.”-Upward Look, 148.

Well presentation and i ask nadar even in their site(ww.trinity truth.org) there is a lot of article i ask for permission to translate in swahili from Tanzania.

God is clearly three persons.

@follow_the_way

Жыл бұрын

Yes He is. Praise the triune God of the bible.

Isaiah 9:6 [6]For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Please answer me who is this child prophecy in Isaiah and hid name shall be called The everlasting father, The mighty God Thank. You and God Bless

@choicegospelnetwork

5 жыл бұрын

If Someone calls you Mighty god, Does that make you Mighty God. ? Jesus is given a name that is ABOVE every name to represent God... We must RIGHTLY DEVIDE

@kicha7868

4 жыл бұрын

@@choicegospelnetwork If under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they call you that. Then yes. Isaiah was speaking prophecy from the inspiration of the Holy Spirit who was ministering to him, to describe who the coming Messiah would be. Therefore yes, Jesus is Mighty God.

Trinitarians tell me I am going to hell, i cry evrytime.

@OurHumbleLife

7 жыл бұрын

Your salvation is between YOU and GOD, and CHRIST, whom God _SENT!_ The trinitarians are NOT your judge! God appointed Jesus to judge us.... Acts 17:31 Be strong and blessed

@Biblebookprofiler

6 жыл бұрын

Don't listen to the adversary Mike! Do some critical thinking and look at the evidence yourself. www.biblebookprofiler.com/9_Biblical_Forgeries_About_Jesus_Christ.html www.biblebookprofiler.com/shield-of-the-trinity-diagram-exposed.html

@alxxla4102

5 жыл бұрын

@@OurHumbleLife can you answer my question ? Why not Judaism or Hinduism or Islam or whatever religion that believes in God and that has good teachings with a less amount of contradictions and confusion ?

@tez817

4 жыл бұрын

@@OurHumbleLife amen

@DanielHoerle-ww9so

4 жыл бұрын

Jesus is God manifest in the flesh died on a cross and rose from the dead. believe on the LORD Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. Trusting in Jesus finished work on the cross is what saves.

I think trying to define the substance and make up of the infinite god is foolish. "I will be what I will be" Pray to the father as Jesus did, we must ask all things through Jesus " Noone comes to the Father except through me" asked for God's spirit to guide you. " I will send the helper the Holy Spirit he will teach you all things" All three are in perfect harmony. Knowing this is all you need to serve God as he approves.

" for there are three that bare record in heaven.................- and these three are one" Notice it says these three "ARE ONE", not that these three are "THREE IN ONE"

@ChrissyAnn85

3 жыл бұрын

You knowingly excluded the rest of the text. My you should read the KJV or NKJV

@josiahgil

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChrissyAnn85 Jesus calls us his children which makes him our father, in Revelation Jesus said he will come into us and sup with us which makes him the holy spirit that dwells within us, the Bible says to baptize in the name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit, not the "names" but the name, you and I are made in the image of God we are Body Soul and Spirit but we are not three people, we are one person in three forms if that makes sense, it's like H2O, H2O has three forms solid liquid gas but it's still H2O, so Jesus has three forms Father Son and Holy Spirit but trinitarians believe there are 3 H2O's and each H2O is its own person and then they lump those three H2O's together and call it God. Trinitarians sing songs about God being three in one , but the Bible says "these three are one" not "3 in 1", they are one Jesus told his disciples I will send another comforter, and then a few seconds later he told them I will be with you I will come to you, he was talking about himself, I don't pretend to understand the Mysteries and all that surrounds them but one thing is sure to me, whenever I encounter most jews that convert to Christianity there's one thing they mostly have in common which is they do not believe in the trinity yet they do believe in Jesus which to me makes sense because they understand their history they understand the Old Testament how Jesus appeared in the flesh and how in the Old Testament Jesus appeared as the angel of the Lord when God said the angel would bear his name which is Jesus. What is the name of the father according to the Bible Jesus came in his name oh, so that makes it Jesus , and what is the name of the Holy Spirit the Old Testament says that God sent his spirit that would bear his name, which makes the holy spirit's name Jesus, now do you understand? the father Son and Holy Spirit are Jesus. It's beautiful, braids is our complete savior comforter and father.

Even from the context of 1 John 5:7, the version of KJV, Wycliffe, Great, ---etc should be correct and right: it declares the Trinity in the whole paragraph. Without the guidance of Holy Spirit, people misunderstand or misinterprete the words of God.

These three are one in agreement

Thank you very much for clarifying the truth on trinity. Every time I questioned church leaders why they adopted that they never seemed to explain it properly or tell me where it originated from since it's not found in the bible. God bless you 🙏🙏🙏

@toddstevens9667

Жыл бұрын

Well if you are still interested in why orthodox Christianity believes in a Trinitarian Godhead, I’d be glad to explain from the Bible why we believe it. Undoubtedly, you will disagree. But I would be glad to explain it to you.

There are many other verses telling us that Christ was/is God. An example (John 1:1; 20:28; 8:58, Exodus 3:14 etc...)

@Tazbira_-_-2034

4 жыл бұрын

Lol.

@Tazbira_-_-2034

3 жыл бұрын

@gherrrie that's your own suitable bullshxt. I don't believe i am a sinner and accused by birth just because Adam ate apple or orange. How can i born with sin when it that time i don't even know what sin actually is !? I am a sinner by nature of the influence of myself when i grow, but it doesn't mean i am a sinner from birth. I born as a cute baby with complete innocence,, will submissive to GOD. Still i will left some things to say. I left Christianity because i find their unclear textual doctrine as Pagan invented baseless idea.

@ChrissyAnn85

3 жыл бұрын

If so why would he cry to the Father while on the cross?

@bodysupport

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChrissyAnn85 Jesus was both God and man. That was the man speaking to the Father. Read Phil 2:5-11; 1Tim 3:16. God was in the flesh. The flesh was man.

I'm glad you gave a correct interpretation of this verse, rather than say the verse is a corruption of the Bible. You do teach honestly, truthfully and purely. But I have a question: yes, verses 7 and 8 do not talk of ontological oneness or trinitarian oneness but oneness of witness. But they seem to imply that three parties give the same witness. Verse 7 seem to imply that the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost are three witnesses, but how is this proper if Jesus is the Holy Ghost living in us?

@Revelation1412org

4 жыл бұрын

Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

There are people called "Jesus Only people." they don't believe in the trinity. They will for example use Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, Let us make human beings......." They will take the whole verse out of context and say it was the angels that came down from heaven. This one guy he also told me that Matthew 28:19 wasn't in the original bible, it was added later into the bible. Nader i have listen to your messages doug batchelor and others and we thank the Lord for people like you that make the word so much clearer to us when the devil want to rob us from God's word, even twist the scriptures to lead us away from God!

@Revelation1412org

7 жыл бұрын

God bless you richly :)

@lutkedog1

7 жыл бұрын

The trinity is taught nowhere in the Bible. And yes there are verses in Question. Genesis 1:26 says us, It could be Father, Son, Holy Spirit, Angels Malkesidek the Bible is not clear on how many subject were there. This in no way Suggest 3. Matt. 28:19, "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit," Was not in the Earlier Greek either and in Acts is they were told to baptize in the name of Jesus Acts 2:38," Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts 8:16, "For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus." Acts 10:48, "And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days." Acts 19:5, "When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus." Acts 22:16, 'And now why do you delay? Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name.’ Here is scholarly explanation that Matt. 28:19 is added The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics: Edmund Schlink, The Doctrine of Baptism, page 28: The Tyndale New Testament Commentaries, I, 275: Wilhelm Bousset, Kyrios Christianity, page 295: The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263: Hastings Dictionary of the Bible 1963, page 1015: The Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge: The Jerusalem Bible, a scholarly Catholic work, The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Vol. 4, page 2637, Revised Standard Version says this about Matthew 28:19: James Moffett's New Testament Translation: Tom Harpur: The Bible Commentary 1919 page 723: Doctrine and Practice in the Early Church: The Beginnings of Christianity: The Acts of the Apostles Volume 1, Prolegomena 1: The Catholic University of America in Washington, D. C. 1923, New Testament A History of The Christian Church: Catholic Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger: "The Demonstratio Evangelica" by Eusebius:

@florinlaiu

7 жыл бұрын

Deidré, this man is not from the ”Jesus Only” Penticostal movement. Those people are modalists, while Nader Mansour is a kind of ”Binitarian” (Semi-Arian) and Pneumatomachian. He is part of an offshoot movement from the Seventh-day Adventist Church about 1980. Since Adventists adopted gradually a Trinitarian theology in the 19th century, and they decidedly acknowledged it in official confessions of faith in the 20th century (1931, 1945, 1980), some believers dissented and adopted conspirational and hostile attitudes. Therefore, their jihad on youtube and generally on the web is directed against Seventh-day Adventists. I know well this facts from within. God bless !

@OurHumbleLife

6 жыл бұрын

He is not a binitarian. He believes in ONE God, who is ONE person and has a SON whom He sent.

I saw that it was added to the Bible by 1582AD, and that the KJV promoted this idea, differing from other accepted Bibles. I don't want to offend or upset anyone; just know that Jesus revealed Himself as pysical body AND spirit. No further comment.

I believe in the trinity. I do find it weird that this is a verse trinitarians use. My belief in the trinity is as followed: The Father has begotten a Son, Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit came forth from the Father. The Son submits to the Father in all things that he does and the Holy Spirits submits to the Son in all that he does. When bringing up “role playing” as per say, there is a definite order to the nature of God. Just as there is one in a godly Marriage. The reason why I believe in the trinity is because all three persons bear the same name. They all bear the same nature (the Father Himself) and they (at least the Father and the Son) share in Glory because of their very composition. Jesus was exalted to the name above all names. Ergo, the name of God. The Father is still his God, which the trinity supports, Just as Jesus is seen to be our God, which is expressed in the epistles and the gospels. The distinction between these two bridges is that Jesus was given a name that is the name of the one who exalted him. So he is equal with God. After death has died, Christ will once again submit to the Father. But in both cases of submission, his nature hasn’t changed. This is probably why the Jews believed that Jesus was claiming equality with God during his submission on earth by claiming to be the Son of God and Jesus never rebuked them negatively for making such a blasphemous assertion. Instead, he bolstered their assertion further. This is but one example.

In Him dwells *_All the Fullness_* of God in bodily form. Col 2:9 He is the visible representation of the invisible God. Col 1:15 ...the Father is in Me and I am in the Father John 10:38 Who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. Phil 2:6 Waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ Titus 2:13 Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel *_and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:_* “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no God. Isaiah 44:6 No one has ever seen God. The only Son, God, who is at the Father’s side, has revealed him John 1:18 "...I and the Father are one.” The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.” John 10:30-33 Therefore Adonai Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin will conceive. When she is giving birth to a son, she will call his name *_God with us_* Isaiah 7:14

o dear famcy seeing you here!!

More tap dancing what are you going to do it first Thessalonians 5:23

I don't know how a person makes it through 'Adventist' seminary and doesn't know the Bible well enough to figure this out! Any seminary for that matter. Many pastors haven't even heard of the 2 Adams. I'm a nobody and I read that when I was a new child of God many years ago. Lots of leaders of the sheep will have a lot to answer for.

I always wondered how people say he is God and still sit at the right hand of God, makes no sense.

@johnwilliamson3164

6 жыл бұрын

Easy to understand, many verses will explain, the Father shares his throne with His Son, who inherited all things (including divinity) from his Father

@UnderGOD81

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnwilliamson3164 YAHshua always shared glory with the Father except that He became manifest in the flesh and went back to the Father in a brand new glorious body. He is THE GODMAN

If God the father is God and the Son of God is God. There are now 2 Gods?

Doesn't angels bear witness/records also? God calls true believers "Israel". Does it mean only one person believe? Ellen White stated many times on Godhead as three in one. Ephesians 4:30

This the 10th different concept of God in Christianity I heard, waaw each one explain something different!!!

Matthew 28: 19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

@rosettedembo2002

4 жыл бұрын

How do this explain that that their hare one ?

But the verses were removed from the new version as fabrication

This passage is mot in the gnostic texts .

Three persons bear record in heaven of Jesus Christ and these three are one. Three individual personalities right that make up the "heavenly trio". Evangelism 615.

Are one and agree are two different things you changing there is no worse blind than the one who does not want to see