Time Stamps 10:53 How the MNU developed into what it is 17:33 Martin's views on aggressive dieting & how to go about it 25:36 The issue with non-individualised fat loss rates 31:52 The key to aggressive dieting

@Daan6661

5 жыл бұрын

Revive Stronger damn wish I saw this before the end of the video 😂

I just want to applaud you for including timestamps the way you do. I love listening to full interviews, but sometimes I want to go back to a topic and without a timestamp, I'd never find the bit I'm looking for.

@ReviveStronger

6 жыл бұрын

Happy to hear you liked it!

This is SOOOO true! It's legitimately hard to lose muscle, people deep down know they aren't that muscular and are afraid to face the facts.

I literally sit here and write notes while listening to your podcasts. Never thought I would be someone that took notes voluntarily. Keep up the amazing work !!!!

@ReviveStronger

5 жыл бұрын

Great to hear! And there are plenty of more episodes ;) - Pascal

Martin MacDonald "Natural bodybuilding more than anything sucks, because you look RUBBISH in clothes when you diet" this one is memorable LOLOLOLOL :D :D :D excellent video !

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Some truth to it though^^

@davisnattygainz5012

4 жыл бұрын

Facts man it's a pretty miserable feeling lol

@Leo-yn5fx

4 жыл бұрын

why do you care about that

@entitiessoul

2 жыл бұрын

There is always some that defiy this theory.

When I get under 20% I freak that I'm losing too much muscle. Been on a bulk for 15 years

@ReviveStronger

5 жыл бұрын

Hope it pays off though - Pascal

@davisnattygainz5012

4 жыл бұрын

Facts, only nattys can relate 😐

Just wanted to show my support because i freaking love the podcast thanks for doing it!

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

And your support is much appreciated!

Awesome job Steve I really love your content... keep with the hard work and the amazing guests

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! We're putting a lot of work into it :)

Awesome podcast. Obviously very informative and some great information to take away and apply with my own clients! Cheers

@ReviveStronger

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Christian! - Pascal

Man that podcast was amazing brother! Really enjoyed it 👍

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for listening :)

Thank you so much for all these videos. Great work man.

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Bernardo, it's out pleasure and thanks a lot for your support!

This channel is awesome! Great information, subbed!

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the support!

Martin knows his stuff. Haven't heard a bad word about his course.

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Me neither. He's a really good and knowledgeable man!

this channel is amazing keep Up the good work man

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Thx Ziisis and we definitely will :)

informative, easy to listen to & to understand... as it always is you've got this shit sorted, I can listen to stuff on here that isn't really that pertinent to me - yet still enjoy it & learn something every time.. nice one mate !

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Martin is great in explaining things!

Quality content, as always. Thanks for this

@ReviveStronger

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man :) - Pascal

This is brilliant, especially as I had a dexa scan on Wednesday 💪🏻

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Haha, awesome stuff :D

This my life right now!!! And it's a reality check. Thanks for sharing.

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome :)

@davisnattygainz5012

4 жыл бұрын

Me too

Love the use of studies and stats. Great podcast

@ReviveStronger

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for listening :) - Pascal

This info is amazing! Thank you revive stronger:-) I just wanted to know how much protein in a calorie deficit (with high fat %) is it 1.4 pr kg or 2.4? He says both numbers? Or did i get it wrong?

@ReviveStronger

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely 2.4, 1.4 would put you on a very low protein intake! - Coach Jess

Glad I accidentally came across Martin on Facebook - nice to see someone who has walked the walk mixing it up with the science. Might finish my MSc in sports nutrition and take up his course as well lol

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

You won't regret it. Only heard fantastic reviews about it

Great content. Keep'em coming!!

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks and lots to come ;)

Great video very good information and also very helpful

@ReviveStronger

6 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. ABout time he comes on again!

I hope I am not too late to ask this question, what would be the percentage of calorie restriction be termed as aggressive dieting or vlcd by research in rapid or fast weight loss?

@ReviveStronger

5 жыл бұрын

You're absolutely not :) There won't be a specific % you'll find in research. Even "high protein intake" is highly variable in studies. That being said, I think everything above 30% becomes "high" imo - Pascal

Great topic

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Martin is great!

Content starts at 18:00.

@dbsllama6042

6 жыл бұрын

Pojtek saved me 15 minutes mate, thanks lol

@editsdharma108

26 күн бұрын

Thanks so much man

when Will part 2 be up? i cant wait.. Love it

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

It will be one of the next 3 episodes ;)

great podcast as usual :)

Awesome!

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Let's say I decide to implement the "least aggressive" rate of fat loss by choosing the divisor as 20 (from the range of 13-20). Would I simply continue to lose weight at this rate? For me, the rate works out to be 2.3lbs/week of fat loss. Would I need to be aware of the time-frame where this loss rate of 2.3lbs/week actually becomes the upper limit (most aggressive) rate of fat loss, where the situation would be the same as if I'm using the divisor of 13. Thanks

@ReviveStronger

4 жыл бұрын

Probably when things are going downhill in the gym - Pascal

excellent

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Abel, hearing that from you means a lot!

This is fire. Great content as always.

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Thx Eli. Martin is a genius!

Great interview Steve....would love to hear more from him on a future vlog

@ReviveStronger

6 жыл бұрын

He's definitely coming on again!

Great info!

@ReviveStronger

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your opinion! - Coach Jess

Great video and agree with all of it. Do either of you know about any cases of ppl getting heartburn/GERD when on an aggressive cut?. Ive been cutting for 6 months now from 28% to 18%, im currently a 144lb male and was on 1200 cals a day for about 5 weeks when i developed heartburn. i was forced into a break/surplus/mini bulk lol when i recently went on holiday and came back feeling great and looking better than ever, i was shocked i hadnt porked up!. Currently on 1500 cals and its like starting afresh. My BMR is around 1500 cals. P.S Martins mannerisms really remnd me of Ricky Gervais! Peace

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Sorry but never heard of something like this and I definitely would seek out a doctor

@stockriderman

5 жыл бұрын

1. You are BS'ing yourself and everyone 144lb male CANNOT have BMR of 1500cal... either that or your body is so fuc$ked up with your bs diets you put it through( I suppose many) that it just shut down and dropped your metabolism to survive - you have no energy, no sex drive, no desire, frequent anger, depression, no power in the gym. Is that you? If not, your BMR is way higher. Anytime a healthy male who exercises tells me he is eating 1500cal to maintain, I laugh as it makes no sense. And when you start asking questions on exactly what is being eaten, suddenly 1500 becomes 2100 or 2300 which is more likely and that's for people who do NOT exercise!! I've never seen in 15 years in nutrition a man of your weight who exercises and has bmr of 1500cal. Impossible so don't BS yourself and others and learn to count calories properly. A banana is not 105 calories. Some can be 80cal and some 200cal. Avocado can be 300cal or 600cal. 10almonds can be 90cal or 200cal. Get it???

@jammRJ

3 жыл бұрын

@@stockriderman A banana is not 105 cals, almonds may vary in fat content, Quinoa and lentils have variable carb and protein content, same with milk etc. Even protein powders such as whey isolate are only guaranteed (in the usa) to be within 20%. So the 100 grams of protein in powder could be 80 or 120 ( and not like anyone checks each scoop). So unless you lab test everything, it's a crap shoot anyway. Thats why people do a diet of rice and chicken to keep things simple. As if that's not bad enough, individual metabolism changes so much based on so many factors. So pray tell how to accurately measure all this?

Hey man i just discovered your channel and i fall in love #nohetero. Jkn Great podcast and great content keep it up. I have a question about this rapid fat loss diet. I am roughly around 25-30% bodyfat @90kg. That means i could aim for 2%/~1.8kg fat loss per week. This means i have to go really low with my calories (~ 3000kcal maintenance). So i could go down to 1200kcal per day, right? Lets say i eat 2.5x protein (225g protein equals 900kcal). So with the rest of my 300kcal i could eat like 30g fat. And thats it ? Like no carbs i cant even fit veggies in my mealplan. Am i just stupid or does aggressive diet work like this? Or should i higher my calories like +300kcal to fit in some vegetables? And how long do i run this diet before doing a refeed @maintenance calories?

@drekec1221

7 жыл бұрын

By eating 2000 calories you could lose ~1kg per week and not starve yourself because 1200 is just not enough for a male + you would probably hit a plateau sooner. Protein doesnt need to be as high as 200+ grams considering you're 25-30% bodyfat so 1g/lb or 2.2g/kg is sufficient (research says fatter individuals can have a slightly lower protein intake than what i just said, ie. 0.7-0.8g/lb), get your fats to 20-30% of your caloric intake and fill the rest with carbs (make sure to hit your fiber intake). I'd personally go about this if and enjoy the process whilst still eating a decent amount of food! (Or you could perhaps eat 2200kcal with 200kcal LISS cardio sessions and your net kcal are still 2000). Refeeds circa every 2-3 weeks in my opinion, as the body fat goes down and you get leaner, refeeds should be done more often

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Would it be sustainable? Probably not. What Martin is saying is diet as aggressive as sustainable. Best would be that if you want to ask specific questions for upcoming Q&A's or yourself, you might want to consider joining our facebook group.facebook.com/groups/revivestronger/

This is great. I've always cut aggressively honestly because I don't have the patience to sit it out for weeks at end. I'd much rather suffer a hard 8 weeks and go back to maint than diet for 25 weeks straight barely seeing a difference. I've always wondered why people say muscle memory is a thing and you can regain lost tissue pretty fast but also then talk about cutting for months on end to save muscle loss. Wouldn't it just be better to get the cut over and done with asap and if you did lose some muscle you can regain it back while at maint or bulking again. I also think aslong as you're actually training as hard as you always have you shouldn't be losing significant muscle mass when cutting anyway.

@ReviveStronger

Жыл бұрын

IMO best is to diet as aggressively as you can, whilst maintaining muscle, so you don't lose time gaining muscle back. - Steve

@Davichiz

Жыл бұрын

@@ReviveStronger hey Steve thanks for the reply. I shot you a DM on insta a couple hours ago. Hope you don't mind and if you're busy feel free to ignore it.

Great interview. I've never attempted a 1000 calorie daily deficit before but I'm willing to try it for my upcoming cut. How much should I expect my training to suffer with such an aggressive deficit? And what should I do to mitigate these detrimental effects? Thanks for your advice.

@ReviveStronger

5 жыл бұрын

When your training suffers it's too aggressive. It's as aggressive as you can in the sense of adherence and performance - Pascal

@yf1177

5 жыл бұрын

Ok, makes sense. Thanks Pascal!

Damn bro, game changer video. Thank you.

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Isn't he great?

When he mentions a guy named "Lyle" around the 28:30 marker, is that Lyle Mcdonald? Or a different Lyle?

When are you planning on posting part 2?

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

Will be one of the next episodes. If you're not already, you might want to consider joining our group to be the first to know about it :) facebook.com/groups/revivestronger/

who does he mean with greg?

And his name is Mac Donald ....and nutritionist ....so funny

What is the amount of protein recommended?

@ReviveStronger

6 жыл бұрын

Based on the latest research round about 1g/lbs of bw is a good range to be in.

@xxk4rilsxx

5 жыл бұрын

@@ReviveStronger how do I found out my bodyweight? I'm 5,8ft 26 years old around 36% bodyfat and 263 pounds.

@stockriderman

5 жыл бұрын

​@@xxk4rilsxx to find your body weight you take your height in inches multiply by your bodyfat; then divide 263 by that number and this will be your body weight.

@NorthernSpartan

4 жыл бұрын

@@xxk4rilsxx You buy a scale and weigh yourself

I've always believed that muscle loss is impossible if you are at 10% body fat and higher. And for non competitors, nobody is as lean as 10% body fat, therefore, nobody has to ever worry about muscle loss.

@ReviveStronger

5 жыл бұрын

These things are highly individual. The only thing anyone can do is to do it as intelligently as possible. - Coach Pascal

Please tell me you're saying that he got stuck into Joe wicks. Me and so many other coaches have has more rants than I could count about him

Come to the point 🥱

Although the feedback is mostly positive for this podcast, it's the first one I disliked on the channel Steve. I simply don't resonate with Martin's style and just feel he's all over the place and almost dodgy when you ask him questions. For instance, according to the time stamps, between 17:33 and 25:36 he's supposed to talk about aggressive dieting, but if you listen closely, he goes on a bunch of tangents, ending up barely scratching the question.

@ReviveStronger

6 жыл бұрын

Fair enough, you don't have to resonate with every individual out there. That's the true spirit of the science based crowd.

@sleeve1259

5 жыл бұрын

Well then let me clear it up for ya. Bulk how you feel you like to bulk and then when you are ready to cut, PROLONG FAST ON SALT WATER until you are shredded and muscle will be maximally spared wayyyy better that if you were to slow diet over something like 18 weeks. IF the body goes I to fasting forced ketosis, the human body will chew fat first until it's ALL gone then muscle! ......it's the way

@Wildkoala1

5 жыл бұрын

SLEEVE 12 what?

@deejayspillz

5 жыл бұрын

SLEEVE 12 😂😂😂

@djmsup

4 жыл бұрын

@@sleeve1259 Put that crack pipe down buddy

💪💪❤️❤️‼️

@ReviveStronger

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! - Coach Jess

Sept 18th i was 235. 3 months later im 180, the lowest ive been 30 years. Basically starved myself and went to the gym 2 days a week. Oh, im 41 and 5'7

@befree9579

Ай бұрын

did you manage to maintain the 180?

@Jckd_0_Lntrn

Ай бұрын

@@befree9579 I'm 165 now ;)

22 minutes of chit chat in a 40 min video is just too much. Get to the point

@ReviveStronger

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching? xD - Coach Jess

Steve, would you rather fight one Dr Mike-sized duck, or 100 duck-sized Dr Mikes?

@ReviveStronger

6 жыл бұрын

Steve doesn't answer the comments, I do (Pascal) Are the 100 duck-sized Mikes as strong as he is or relative to their height?

@dickpiano1802

6 жыл бұрын

Revive Stronger The mini ducks are smaller versions of Mike adjusted for Wilks. Same relative strength but lower absolute. The Mike-sized duck is the same, so higher absolute strength than a normal duck but the same relative strength. Although beware because birds are incredibly strong for their light weight.

@ReviveStronger

6 жыл бұрын

God, it's a tough one....I'd say I'd battle one Dr Mike-sized duck but only if this Duck doesn't do jiu-jitsu

Great content, however...1st 20mins isn't even about the topic.

@ReviveStronger

7 жыл бұрын

It's a two part series and for this, we always have the timestamps included. Hope you enjoyed it anyway :)

@MrDraxz

7 жыл бұрын

Ya, of course mate love the show. PS, my fault for not checking for timestamps!

That beard lookin good

@ReviveStronger

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching? Haha - Coach Jess

This guy goes off on tangents even when he is already on a tangent... very difficult to follow what he's going on about. "As low calories as you can realistically maintain" should mean zero calories i.e. a water-fast. A Scottish guy holds the record for water-fasting, he did 382 days and went down from over 400 lbs to a regular weight!

@Yeahhoee

4 жыл бұрын

good luck supplying strength training with a waterfast...

Funny like Ricky Gervais, that was funny

@Obsolete569

2 жыл бұрын

It's the type of thing David Brent would say! 😂

Hard time getting to the point.

@ReviveStronger

4 жыл бұрын

All good things take time ;) - Pascal

Maybe I misheard but is the message here that a TRAINED individual can lose significant amounts of fat without losing muscle mass? That's news to me. I understood you can skew the ratios but you are going to lose muscle unless you are a fat newbie.

@ReviveStronger

4 жыл бұрын

The literature doesn't really support it. Like true muscle loss will hardly occur unless you're doing very much unreasonable stuff or diet very aggressively/very long. Other than that, lean tissue may go down but muscle loss, very hard to actual see this. - Pascal

@fabioq6916

4 жыл бұрын

@@ReviveStronger so by lean tissue you mean other tissue than muscle? I'm surprised to read this. Literally everything I have read says that other than for the obese untrained or very new trainees, muscle mass loss is an inevitability. Kyle, Israetel, Barbell Medicine. All say the same. Can you cite some studies please? It's great news if true but I would be very surprised!

@fabioq6916

4 жыл бұрын

@@ReviveStronger ok. So trained non obese guys can easily prevent muscle loss but not gain muscle mass. Is that the hypothesis? I should add: not juiced.

@ReviveStronger

4 жыл бұрын

And I wholeheartedly disagree with these individuals. I even once asked Mike about it and he agreed, that muscle loss is probably no concern under "normal" circumstances, Ie. not extreme levels of leanness same as individuals who do RT. And that's the thing, there are NO compelling studies on muscle loss, like actual loss of muscle tissue. All studies that are often cited are done on untracked nutritional protocols, people without resistance training or endurance style of training. I'm not convinced that people who eat suffiecient amounts of protein and do proper RT need to fear muscle loss. (except for extreme scenarios maybe). Even sleep deprived subject. It's not that sleep deprivation per se leads to muscle loss but the fatigue and inability of motor unit recruitment. - Pascal

@fabioq6916

4 жыл бұрын

@@ReviveStronger fascinating and encouraging!!! Sufficient progein, for a 40+ male being probably on the high side then. Say 2.25g per kg?

Bulk how you like, then when ready, FAST straight until you are shredded to ur desired goal! Fasting forced ketosis will spare muscle better that ANY method out there! Happy building everyone!

@davidthomas9960

5 жыл бұрын

SLEEVE 12 No

@ReviveStronger

5 жыл бұрын

Say what?

@deejayspillz

5 жыл бұрын

This guy is a fool lol

@djmsup

4 жыл бұрын

You're a dumbass

@sleeve1259

4 жыл бұрын

@@djmsup and you must be a fat ass 🤣

I dont know why anyone thought this was a great interview it sucked . It took the guy 30min before he even bought up any numbers about rapid fat loss. He just goes on and on, get the facts out there.

@ReviveStronger

10 ай бұрын

Sorry but if you're after short form content, maybe head to tiktok - Steve

Overly aggressive diets are an easy way to develop a food obsession. I would be extra careful when following this advice

@ReviveStronger

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't generalise it tbh. - Pascal

@1s_that_a_j0j0_reference

Жыл бұрын

Most people already have a binge disorder. You can be fat with an e.d. or you can look great and maybe get one. Your choice

Funny how this guy think that online forums are "old school." There was no net when I started working out. All you had were fitness mags and word-of-mouth. Talk about lack of reliable knowledge & practices!

@ReviveStronger

5 жыл бұрын

Forums are outdated unless it's really specific. Facebook has kind of replaced forums - Pascal

Is Martin Macdonald related to Lyle Madconald?

@ReviveStronger

4 жыл бұрын

They're brothers. Their father is called Ronald. - Pascal

Good god. You need to start the actual content earlier in the vid. You just shat bilge for 10 minutes and now I’m pissed off and don’t want to keep listening because you just wasted my time.

@Jimrock95

2 жыл бұрын

Time stamps?