Everyone go give this video a like because no one else is taking the time to do these comparisons

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 Thanks man!

@mercracing

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely

Respect to Jackal for paying. Definitely want to see the power curves matched up.

Great video, Cam. Thanks for doing this comparison, much respect!

Great video as usual! keep up the great work bud!

Awesome video. I was just reading some forums the other day and somebody said they went from 034 to Jackal and they were also faster by similar times. Thanks for this comparison.

Great video, thanks for always providing such good content for our car.

Great comparison, thanks man!

Great and informative video. I'm looking forward to seeing the power band charts for both tunes and I can't wait to see the new Merc Racing supercharger on this engine. It's gonna look beautiful.

Fantastic!!! Just made the switch to jackal at Christmas and noticed a huge improvement in the car. Matt and the team doing the work

Great video as always Cam!

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Happy new years buddy. I love your videos, always very informative. I’ve recently done a lot of work on my a6 and I’ve come to your videos every time. Doing a great job. 👍

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Thanks man!

Great video cam. Wanted to start by saying your videos have been very helpful to me with 2 3.0T cars. I don’t think switching between these tunes is worth it unless you are really serious about power. My car is a daily driver and I’m very happy with 034. Thx for the videos.

I can’t wait, to fully get into tuning my C7 A6 I had just finally slapped a stage 1 034 tune 2 weeks ago for my official last drive from RI to permanently reside in SC. The car shifts and power for the 16 hour drive down. with no mods is even amazing. Thank you for all the DIY videos I will need soon and tuning comparisons. Can’t wait to see you and your car at club Carolinas.

@MiguelGorham

6 ай бұрын

Switch to Jackal. Better MPG as well with Jackal tune. Tune is night and day on Audis❤️🔥🔥

Let’s go! Great content

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Thanks man!

Nice comparison video! It would be interesting to see IE vs. Jackal - Dyno Comparisons numbers....

@audiC7Owners Thanks for doing this brother!! I always love seeing these comparison videos! I love seeing data and would love to see the logs from these runs and see how the timing and fueling looked

great video thanks for the outlook

Was thinking of going jackal for my b8 s4 and everything in this video from matt paying for the dyno runs to the improved performance puts it at the top

Thanks for doing this!

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

🤘🏼🤘🏼

Great comparison!

Great content...as usual.

@AudiC7Owners

4 ай бұрын

🙌🏼

Just want to say thank you!

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

🙌🏼

Great video. Makes we consider one of these cars as a sleeper since gt mustangs are not very stealthy...especially when they have s/c whine.

For me me is the money wise jackal is $800 for ecu and tcu tune for all stages and change anytime that’s unbeatable

@blucobalt8688

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, and that's 800 including the flash cable. So... 5 (4 stages + tcu) tunes for 600. Crazy.

Jackal is king! 👑

Got a Jackal stage 1 in my 4L Q7 and its night and day difference.

Great vid!

Good run down. I’m wondering the longevity of the cars on jackal as they are forcing more power. 034 has been around for so long and seems like all cars tuned by them are doing well. We will see in the near future how the jackal tunes affect the motor.

@Kiss__Kiss

5 ай бұрын

Exactly this.. Sometimes it's not about who has the biggest power gains, as much as it is, how long can you safely keep these numbers going. Longevity speaks volumes.

@AudiC7Owners

5 ай бұрын

There are no concerns with jackal's safety. They've been tuning audis for decades.

@RSTHOR13

Ай бұрын

Never had a problem with my car (N/A) and I’ve had it for a few years now. I know it’s not a SC’d 3.0 but even NA is outfknstanding!

Awesome comparison vid! Any comments on the TCU tune difference? If you got a chance to drive the Jackal ECU/TCU after that is...

Great video

I’m here baby!

Hi my friend… can you help with my Audi A7 2016, my voice command has stopped working I can hear clearly through speakers, but no one can hear me??.. also coasting when in Emode doesn’t glide, transmission not switching to just E on the dash and engine idle off throttle down hill coasting.. any help would be appreciated Thanks

Interesting that 034 advertises 438hp on stage 1 + 93 octane for the A6 C7. Thanks for the informative video!

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Pretty sure that is crank hp?

@Obospeedo

6 ай бұрын

@@AudiC7Owners oh gotcha! Thank you for making that make sense lol. Excited to see you try out that merc racing supercharger. Very jealous!

Good video just think you should take the average of the 3 runs and go by that vs the peak of the best runs that shows more consistency Imo

Awesome video man!! Quick question. Were you on a stage 2 file because of your 205mm crank pulley?

@AudiC7Owners

3 ай бұрын

That is correct. Dual pulley stage 2

@mannyg-tech7063

3 ай бұрын

@@AudiC7Owners thank you for your response, love your channel. You rock man!!!

Do you ever plan on doing stage 2 so we can see that as well?

Jackal 💪🏽💪🏽🙌🏽

Love this video format, would love to see APR’s tune since it’s the one I’m looking at

@AudiC7Owners

2 ай бұрын

Go with jackal over APR.

@nickmhc

2 ай бұрын

@@AudiC7Owners thanks for replying! Your videos are super helpful - you’d take Jackal over 034 and IE? Do you know which one would support Merc’s supercharger upgrade if I get there (unlikely tbh)?

@AudiC7Owners

2 ай бұрын

@@nickmhc both jackal and 034 are supporting it. Jackal is testing E85 on it right now.

I was hoping more power after all those mods🤔 I have no mods and only tuned ecu and tcu and tuner said that it has 440hp/540nm at crank +-2%. I would like to dyno it... thank you for these videos👍

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Crank & wheel hp are very different numbers

Woof woof thumbs up everyone

Awesome stuff

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

🙌🏼🙌🏼

Thanks a lot for this comparison:) i wonder if jackal has a flawless tune right now working for A6 c7.5 community as i know right now there is still an issue with 034's. Something to due with power loss in 3rd gear. Sucks big time when trying to log and run times.. torque just flat lines... Its a shame because its been since 2022 ive seen this issue on forums

@jackalmotorsports

6 ай бұрын

We have a very good CREC tune. No issues like you are mentioning

@SoulOfPvm

6 ай бұрын

Sounds good! I'll look into switching over :) thanks for the quick reply! ​@@jackalmotorsports

do you think us with CREC motors will make more power easier?

so basically the dyno numbers were close enough and within the margin of error, where it didn't make an appreciable difference in the real world aka down the quarter mile. for your 11.59 u 60 footed a smidge better which would explain the lower ET great comparison tho for sure!

Damn good video but you do know 034 going to flame this on Monday live 😂😂😂😂 they hate to be second on anything lol but nevertheless good work

are the files plain text? any chance to run a diff against them to see the differences?

Muchas gracias por esta comparación, Podrias comparar jackal vs IE ?

Does anyone know if Jackal or IE support a CARB-friendly Stage1 file like 034 does? For me this is a huge selling point

Definitely some good numbers from both. My A7 came with an APR stage 1 tune. How would you say APR compares to both of these?

@CoastalWheels

6 ай бұрын

APR doesn’t continue to innovate in the 3.0T market like 034 so IMO I’d say it would be worth it to switch

I would really like to see where APR fits in here as far as numbers on their stage 2+ tune

Do you have the SAE number comparisons?

But What’d Briar Do?

Can E85 be used on a completely stock C7 even if a gallon or two? If so, any cons? Pros? Thanks in advance. Cheers

@jinholee5191

6 ай бұрын

I’ve heard people running up to e30 on stock fuel pumps but with that little of e you’re not gonna see much of anything tbh. Especially since some gasoline already has a small amount in it

next video please do this comparison between: Jackal vs IE vs 034. I currently have IE stage 2 single pulley and TCU with Mercracing heat exchanger but I feel like it should be a bit faster. Thank you

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Ie never sent their tcu file to me. Unless someone wants to buy it for me to test, ie is getting left out for now.

@WeI3I3y

6 ай бұрын

@@AudiC7Owners Wow their TCU file was such a huge difference. I hope they send it to you so we can get a real top 3 comparison.

@TD4wGx34xROX

3 ай бұрын

Single pulley isnt much of a difference. Just go dual pulley.

Does jackal have a discount for switching cause I was thinking about switching before I go for a stage 2 tune

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Yes they do

where did you get that blacked out grill from I have an a6 and want to black it out but I do not want the honey comb rs grill

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

This one is an oem black optics 8-bar grill from a C7.5 A6. My bumper is made to fit C7.5 grills

@myrnamer9920

6 ай бұрын

@@AudiC7Owners so it’s a stock grill?

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Correct

Wondering what IE results would have been. Any plan's for that in the future?

@quarawlisstafford487

6 ай бұрын

Seen a guy in the forums made 469 with Just IE intake and tune but he was also on a hub dyno for whatever thats counts for.

@grankpeq

5 ай бұрын

I make 506 crank on IEs tune. I also run full E85. It’s also a CREC model. Many others I’ve seen in the group claim the same. Probably E file from IE

@quarawlisstafford487

5 ай бұрын

@grankpeq solid numbers for IE intake and E 85. E is the better fuel if you live where its readily available

I know you plan on doing IE later on but does anyone in the comments have any personal experience between IE and these? I currently have IE stage 1 ECU & TCU tunes.

@goonies6547

6 ай бұрын

stay with IE man im fbo 2012 a6 dual pulley and right now its super cold and tires spinning and i still pulled off a 3.5 0-60 which is really good for tire spin in there as well

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

What's your 60'/quarter mile time? What's your username on the Dragy leaderboards so I can look you up?

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Reference IE: I have their ecu done but I ran it with a custom tcu file for years. I enjoyed it, but I'm definitely faster on both the Jackal & 034 files

@goonies6547

6 ай бұрын

my name is Gavin T with a all black profile pic just got my dragy so only two things posted having fueling issues right now but wants the Hpfp and Lpfp get upgraded should be all good to be able do a 1/4 again and post that time everything done thru IE @@AudiC7Owners

@goonies6547

6 ай бұрын

yeah not saying jackal or 034 arent faster just saying like IE for there power which is crazy is the safest option and i will say IE gives you all 20psi like right off the bat with 15 degrees timing and 034 motorsports and APR it takes until like late rpm to build max boost as well as i think APR even pulls timing at the end a guy on youtube did a video on a dyno while back show everyone the timing and boost delivery on all 3 tuners jackal wasnt big at the time. But dont get me wrong i have a 2015 s5 and ive already ordered the 034 dongle so i can try them out on it @@AudiC7Owners

Hai, I installed a 207 mm wheel, can I drive 100 km to adjust the engine and gearbox, or do I have to take the car on a tow truck?

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

You have to tune the car once you install the new pulley. I wouldn't drive it that long without the appropriate file uploaded

@Murder_A6

6 ай бұрын

Just go easy on her stay out of boost if possible either way she should bleed off the extra boost.

Very interesting indeed, I’m wondering how a fully stock car(stock pcv,, etc) 14:55 would perform, if that much difference at all😏

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Relocated pcv shouldn't make any difference.

Does the jackal setup come with ECU & TCU in the same bundle? I see for my Crec 3.0t they have stage 1 for $850 does that include Tcu as well as Ecu ?

@AudiC7Owners

Ай бұрын

Yes. You get the ecu, tcu, and cable for one price and never pay for any updates after

@rah40boy

Ай бұрын

@@AudiC7Owners cant beat that! And the gains are good! But hope theyre reliable ill prol take my chances since they have prior experience before the 3.0T

@AudiC7Owners

Ай бұрын

Jackal has been around for a long time. Been thinking audis long before they started with the 3.0t. You are good

@rah40boy

Ай бұрын

@@AudiC7Owners can always count on you! Thx bro🙏

What Briar do?! …love that added touch

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

😂

Jackal for the win 🏆

I may have missed it. Stage 1 for both or stage 2+?

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

You missed it. This is dual pulley/test pipe files from both (stage 2+ from 034)

Would you recommend purchasing a 034 tcu tune along with the ecu tune or is it unnecessary for just a stage 1 tune…for now😈?

@AudiC7Owners

3 ай бұрын

No matter what ecu tune you get I'd always recommend getting the tcu tune.

@sawyertedesco9259

3 ай бұрын

@@AudiC7Owners overall which tuning platform would you recommend? Jackal is more appealing to me due to its cheaper price. Also do I need to buy the 034 throttle body adapter I don’t really understand the purpose however it’s only $25.

Why was the car smoking so much on Jackal tune at 8:33 than on 034Motorsport at 6:30?

@Ralphs.Garage16

6 ай бұрын

good question. I want to know too.

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

It smoked on both. You just didn't see it in the other video. I have worn exhaust valve stem seals

With 160k+ miles have you ever touched your timing chain? And if not does it have the rattle upon start less then 3 seconds

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

No I haven't! And it has your typical 1s rattle

I live in AZ. In the city. So this upcoming Monday we r expecting 110 degrees. For my heat exchanger. Is 034 good or is merc better? I’m new to the German world. Got a B8.5 S5 coupe. 1 1/2 year ownership. Please help.

@AudiC7Owners

26 күн бұрын

Mercracing is 100% better

@z32twinturbo13

26 күн бұрын

@@AudiC7Owners is the installation easy? Or I mean are the instructions well explained? N is there any other cooking mods I should do for the vehicle. That I may want to do or like consider?

@AudiC7Owners

26 күн бұрын

Yep! I have a few videos, but I'm releasing a video this Sunday specifically installing a heat exchanger on a b8.5 S4 (same as your car) Check out my Playlists to see all my videos on cooling upgrades.

Mods you forgot to mention: Eurocode transmission and diff mount inserts, JXB driveshaft carrier. Possibly make a negligible difference in performance but noteworthy 😇

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

They don't make any difference in awhp

What about the IE tune compared to 304 and Jackal

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Ie didn't send me their tcu so I don't have their full tuning suite to do a legit comparison

if you look at the drag times it looks like apr had the higher top speed

Would these numbers be similar if it was a s4

@AudiC7Owners

2 ай бұрын

There will be variations since the S4s have different transmissions. But they should be relatively similar

You didnt mention the other jackal pulls which were actually equal to 034. Id like to know what the afr and timing looks like. For both. This will give off reliability for the engine. Im not tuned by either. I see you even have a IE poster in the back and wouldve been nice to see IE compared to those 2 as well. Those pulls looked like it coughing up a lot of smoke at random times too. Doesnt look good to me. Possibly too much timing and that e85 mix is saving it. 🤷🏽‍♂️ also having e85 is affecting how those tunes would perform instead of it was just 93.

I got IE :D

But back to the video. Jackal is reducing the Tq for more Top end. When 034 does more Tq then top end. Okay. So line it up. Let see who finishes first. The one that takes off the fastest or the one who gain speed as it runs

@AudiC7Owners

26 күн бұрын

I've always gone faster with the Jackal tunes over the 034 tune by about a tenth of a second.

Just curious, will you still be releasing the separate videos on 034 tune & Jackals or you can’t after the engine mishap. In the market for a tune and love watching your videos so would love to see a more in depth but if you can’t, I totally understand

@AudiC7Owners

4 ай бұрын

I kind of touched on this and my live chat reply that I recorded last weekend, but I am on the fence. It isn't that I cannot. It's that I am unsure if, because of what happened with my engine failure, people would still believe that I was being impartial if I said anything negative or critical of 034 in the review. I'll likely still do it.

Jackal stage 1 crank power in hp?

@AudiC7Owners

2 ай бұрын

Listed on their website

250 dollars😮 in UK it's around 40 dollars for dyno pulls

@AudiC7Owners

5 ай бұрын

Well that's depressing

i did some research i found out that jackal had been tuning for many many years

@AudiC7Owners

5 ай бұрын

Yep. A VERY long time

I swooped up a spare c7 A6 3.0t just to set 1/4 track records this year .... See you out there!

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Can't wait to see your performance! If you upload to KZread make sure you tag me so I can keep track & share

Was watching 034 live today Javid was not having it he said meet em at the track

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Haha nah. They pointed out some valid things that I would expect them to bring up.

@exoinky1293

6 ай бұрын

@@AudiC7Owners oh yeah they take it serious for free 😂😂😂 regardless good video

@jackalmotorsports

6 ай бұрын

any day 😉

Nice smoke show at the end of the pull with jackal software

@jackalmotorsports

6 ай бұрын

Did it with both tunes, he has an issue with valve seals at his mileage.

@ciscogalvan4174

6 ай бұрын

Video didn’t show smoke on 034 software. Must be the angle it was shot at

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

You only saw 034 from the front. My car is an equal opportunity smoker due to my valve seals

states cact temps in C* but ambient air in F* lol..... id also think that o34 being a bigger brand has slightly more safety measures vs jackal wanting all the 'sauce" just goes all out? either way good times.

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Haha. Making both sides of the pond do conversions. Jackal may be new to the 3.0t, but they are not new to tuning audis. Nothing about their tune is unsafe

@tvillaa

6 ай бұрын

@@AudiC7Owners of course. im just curious since 034 has an *older* file, if they spent the time and updated things, could they possibly match ? obviously theirs some tweaking that jackal is doing.

Can we get a b9 test

@AudiC7Owners

5 ай бұрын

Sure! Lemme know when you are buying me a b9 sq5

Sorry to be of subject but my 8y rs3 runs 1.80 60ft 7.36 on 1/8mil@95mph with a little spin? It's was done on a no prep street road event using south Coast raceways tree and timing. I wish I could run you 60ft times wow why are they so low and your 1/8mil is in 7.4s?

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Two completely different cars. You are a much lighter RS car. I'm not familiar with their normal 1/4 mile times, but I'd say your 60' could improve with practice.

Now do IE!

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Buy me their tcu and I will 😂

Jackal turned down the knock sensor sensitivity. Easy! Knock sensors need to be calibrated for different hp levels. The frequency range of the new hp levels has to be corrected. If not touched, the engine won't detect knock and implement the safeties built into the tune. Both runs sounded like they were knocking all the way up to my ears. Additionally, adding e85 on jackals tune gave it more knock resistance than 034’s tune. The 11.65 (jackal) and 11.69 (034) draggy runs can be easily attributed to the fact that the DA was slightly lower on the jackal run then on the 034’s run. We’re talking about .04 seconds in the 1/4 mile. The result here is so negligible that it can simply count up to human error to recreate an exact perfect run or even the difference -200 da. Im not here to defend 034 or Jackal, but if we’re going to do comparisons.. NOTHING can change. The parameters have to remain the same. Especially things like adding e85 to increase knock resistance on 93 octane. Should’ve tested E40 vs E40 instead on the dyno and draggy! (I understand it’s winter and I hope you get the chance to do that in the spring.)

@Craigineering

6 ай бұрын

That exhaust puff at the end of the Jackal pull...typical of fuel dump for knock correction.

@kreeks5795

6 ай бұрын

It’s a good thing or a bad thing if jackal changed the knock sensor sensitivity?

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Both tunes had the same puff when doing pulls

@Need4Built

6 ай бұрын

@@kreeks5795 bad thing. It’s a safety feature of a sort. What happens when some thing is wrong and instead jackals tune doesn’t “hear” the knock and just keep pushing the power? Definitely not good vs a tune making 5-10 whp less but adjusting for knock correction etc. that’s only IF they are doing so. I’m not saying they are. I’m not an expert. Just my humble opinion. Cameron is the goat and the expert as well as doing comparisons that no one has. Props to him.

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

Let's be careful saying anything that makes it look like jackal is turning knock sensitivity down in an unsafe way.

Some horses got escaped.? How.?

geez that's a lot of smoke lmao

@AudiC7Owners

6 ай бұрын

It's how I get away from police. At 160k, the valve seals are pretty worn. As long as there is no smoke blowing out under wot I'm ok

Since we know you most likely get deep discounts for promoting their products. I know you can’t say it. However with these results it looks like Jackal and 034 and IE are pretty similar and not that huge of a difference? A tenth of a second like many claimed I’m not sure would qualify that Jackal is “the best”, as you disclaimed, “your car” it was negligible. In this case I suppose stick with the tuners that work for your setup and car. Personally I don’t want a tune that’s shifting past redline at 7200 rpm’s. However I also digress. I’m not running drag strips and trying to beat out other classes and cars. So kudos to everyone that does. I think what we learned is that all these tuners are great. We also know all these cars can be slightly different. If you go with 034, Jackal, or IE or even APR you’re in good hands. I think it’s time we base it on just personal preference. Let’s get the IE TCU and put it against the other two as well. Let’s also compare their E tunes also. If we want to be detailed let’s include the fine details. Good luck to everyone and each of those dyno pulls sounded great.

Jackalmotorsports!🤘🏽🦾have it on my b7RS4.