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Ғылым және технология

Working this install today made me think of a good brief topic to shoot regarding some tips involving cabling around rackmounted equipment. Hope you all learn something!

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  • @user-qo8js3qk5z
    @user-qo8js3qk5z4 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate these videos. So glad I found your channel. Seeing your enthusiasm and quality of work restores my faith in the industry, as I've seen so many poorly done hack jobs.

  • @buf0rd
    @buf0rd7 жыл бұрын

    Great advice on wiring w/ same length.

  • @misamokuzelpizu
    @misamokuzelpizu7 жыл бұрын

    thank you for the tips. in near future im going to clean up the network of a small office and your advice is definenetly helping me. its not the first time i have to work with a very small network but the first time to deal with a rackmount and phone line hanging out of the wall without proper instalation..

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    7 жыл бұрын

    It is a rare thing for me to see ANY network in what I would consider even an acceptable condition. I think there's a big disconnect between technicians that do installing and the technicians that to the maintenance / repair work. The latter would NEVER build networks like what I'm used to seeing on a daily basis. I'm glad you like my tips! Thanks

  • @Bnryzombie

    @Bnryzombie

    7 жыл бұрын

    power on one side and data on the other. That is the general rule.

  • @riphihe
    @riphihe6 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU SO MUCH for saying when its ok to run cable from 1 piece of equipment directly to another!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Mastagon
    @Mastagon7 жыл бұрын

    Killer work on all your videos bro.

  • @MaXwellFalstein
    @MaXwellFalstein7 жыл бұрын

    You can make custom length fibre optic cables with a grinding wheel and termination device. You can even fuse the fibre if you cut a section out of the middle of a fibre. Anyway, I love you work. I would like to see more cable management devices in your videos but I have seen the other comments where you say you are not a fan of them.

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've been keeping my eye on those "in the field" fiber termination kits and newer hardware that's coming out. The cost is just plummeting these days for doing that kind of thing. Now you don't need a host of super-expensive optical fusing equipment to terminate ends anymore. I think if I do another long fiber pull I'll consider making a purchase. I usually just make a good, conservative estimate of what length I need and have the cables custom made. The cost for that is actually very low as well -and it comes in a nice protected sleeve that's already set up for pulling. Still, it may be less expensive to just pull raw cable where I don't have to worry about the potential of damaging the end terminations during the pull and just get the connectors on after all the more violent work is done! You're not the only one to mention my lack of cable management hardware. I'm putting that on the list of future videos to address. Thanks for mentioning it as it really helps me get ideas for content that you'll want to see. Thanks for the compliments too!!

  • @MaXwellFalstein

    @MaXwellFalstein

    7 жыл бұрын

    The in-the-field termination kits are very good and have been coming down in price, as you said. The days of fusing ends are over; you can grind to make good and then terminate with ease - lovely. I like custom made cables. There is a bloke locally who has a small business where he makes optical cables to any length. He can even put in amplifiers on the cable drum - legend in my eyes. I have purchased cables from him. I build custom cable management trays. I would love to show you in the future when my rack is rebuilt in its new home. You are very welcome!

  • @LionelRedelinghuys
    @LionelRedelinghuys7 жыл бұрын

    Fibre really does teach one to work creatively with cable overlength...

  • @jeffmoss26
    @jeffmoss267 жыл бұрын

    just found your channel...you do great work!!

  • @techgroupservices
    @techgroupservices6 жыл бұрын

    Do you prefer a specific brand of the zip ties that have the mounting hole?

  • @J0hnyJakn0ve
    @J0hnyJakn0ve5 жыл бұрын

    Nice job, have you ever thought of using wire saddles. The thing I like about saddles is they can be used multiple times just by cutting the zip tie if you need to another a cable but with mountable zipties you cut them and also lose your mounting point

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    5 жыл бұрын

    I actually do use them quite often. I just haven't mentioned them here at all. Great suggestion!

  • @davidratkay9281
    @davidratkay92817 жыл бұрын

    Do you actually configure routers and switches? Or just install equipment?

  • @FastRedPonyCar
    @FastRedPonyCar6 жыл бұрын

    Do you have an amazon affiliate link for those anchor mount zip ties? I'm learning a LOT from your videos and would like to contribute with any network gear/supplies I buy.

  • @venividivici4253
    @venividivici42533 жыл бұрын

    Love the twist ties.

  • @wrc1045
    @wrc10456 жыл бұрын

    Just making some comments. Some wire ties are too tight. We work on everything up to data centers, velcro only. Those cables are not labeled on both ends. T1 we use as backups all the time, fiber and cable isp for fast cost effective Internet. All cabling is supported ~ we are particular. So for this what did you charge? We would do the T1 bonding to block for around 900-980 usd

  • @Reedith
    @Reedith5 жыл бұрын

    what is the fastener?

  • @tigerfish66
    @tigerfish665 жыл бұрын

    can i ask why you dont use velcro type cable grips to allow easy swaps and additions ?

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm going to be addressing this directly in an upcoming video but, in short, velcro isn't as fast and easy as it might seem compared to zip ties. But the primary reason is that velcro simply isn't as strong. In most situations, I am finding the need to "shape" my cable bundles as they move around the space. The need to be coerced into angles and directions they otherwise wouldn't let happen so I need something stronger to do it. I've tried and tried to make velcro work -even my most recent jobs in Florida had me attempting to use velcro and failing. Hope this helps...

  • @d.m.4815
    @d.m.48155 жыл бұрын

    I use to install a lot of T-1s before I left the local telco. Ours started out with 44. I see those start out with 45. What state are you from?

  • @scwfan08

    @scwfan08

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's from Cali

  • @Artem-bn2gb
    @Artem-bn2gb7 жыл бұрын

    nice vids .. please keep up the good work... you r a true NINJA lol

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words! I sometimes wonder if I'm being too basic or even belittling other techs when I point out things like this but at the same time I feel compelled to "spread the word" on good cable management! I'm going to try and keep the content coming as long as I can!!

  • @ChucksBasix

    @ChucksBasix

    7 жыл бұрын

    To be honest, we need techs out there that have experience that can point out what they think is wrong, and provide the reasoning that they think this, like you do in the videos you have uploaded. Keep the great work up!

  • @claytondus
    @claytondus7 жыл бұрын

    Former ADTRAN engineer here, love to see our gear out in the wild.

  • @SomeGuyInSandy
    @SomeGuyInSandy7 жыл бұрын

    Tip for you: Get some small diameter fuel line. Cut it to length and split it lengthwise. Makes a great impromptu grommet! I keep a couple of feet on my truck just for this sort of thing.

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    7 жыл бұрын

    +SomeGuyInSandy Actually got a few of you viewers mention fuel line! I'm going to be letting everyone know about this in a upcoming video. Question for you though: what do you use to split it and is it tough to keep the split straight?

  • @SomeGuyInSandy

    @SomeGuyInSandy

    7 жыл бұрын

    I use my pocket knife (every man should carry one). Get a slit started on one end then flip the blade over so the back of the blade rides inside the tube. Then grab the tube with your other hand, or pliers and pull. you can easily control how the tube is slit. Also, it doesn't have to be very straight to work well as a grommet. It might take you a couple of tries, but give it a shot. Once you master it (its easy) you'll use this trick a lot. Good luck!

  • @SomeGuyInSandy

    @SomeGuyInSandy

    7 жыл бұрын

    Here is a photo: i.imgur.com/qnYudpJ.jpg

  • @aguyandhiscomputer

    @aguyandhiscomputer

    7 жыл бұрын

    Used car dealer here. What you're looking for is called door edge guard. It's already split but haven't tested the bend radius. www.amazon.com/dp/B01BWKCUAO

  • @matthewenderle8880
    @matthewenderle88806 жыл бұрын

    I need you go work for the Air force. The cabling on my plane is so atrocious. I can't count how many times I couldn't remove a piece of equipment due to cabling being too short or in the way of it.

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    6 жыл бұрын

    The USAF is actually part of my background! While I got my feet wet cabling with my dad in Chicago as he eventually settled on doing residential / commercial electrical work, I got an A&P license from ERAU and started out doing cable install work on the Northrop Grumman B2 Stealth Bomber. That's probably where I first began to take pride in the wiring I did and, for the most part, it was expected of you in that environment. Boy could I tell you hilarious stories about that circus of a place during the 5 years I was there!!

  • @jackk4222

    @jackk4222

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FiberNinjaStudios I would love to hear some of those stories!

  • @DPacVV
    @DPacVV4 жыл бұрын

    Hey dude where you been?

  • @lijie6431
    @lijie64315 жыл бұрын

    Call a telecom broker to get quotes on fiber in the area

  • @Firespyer
    @Firespyer7 жыл бұрын

    oh God they have an allworx..... RUN!

  • @crunchytee
    @crunchytee7 жыл бұрын

    Put one switch above the patch panel and one below, then use 1 ft patch cables for the best look, and you wont have to worry about being able to remove equipment..

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    7 жыл бұрын

    I completely agree! This was just an install of the bonded T1's. I did not build this rack. But it was a good opportunity to point out some basic cabling flaws.

  • @torch2005
    @torch20057 жыл бұрын

    Why dont i ever see you use rack mount finger ducting or cable managers? I feel that a lot of your slack cable can be better stored in them especially if you have a lot more slack then you would in this rack.

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's a good question. Frankly the reason is that I don't like cable managers. I feel that unless it's fiber, there's very little need for them if you plan your network equipment right. I don't see the point of slack management when if planned right becomes unnecessary. I think that the norm for a long time is to never think about how the patch cables will be used. Instead, people have just ordered patch cables longer than anyone will ever need, added spaces and hardware to manage the slack, and called it good. Well, I'm the tech that has to deal with it when something breaks or needs to be revised. I'm the one combing through the rats next of slack packed into a couple of rack units that look so neat from the outside when it's all covered up but in reality is a mess to deal with. As you may see in my other videos, I'm a big fan of short patch cables with patch panels directly adjacent to their respective switches. In that arrangement, there is no need for slack management or any of the headache that comes with working on it. Why did I coil the slack this way on this rack? Because I was there for just a few hours to do a simple T1 install and this was the solution I came up with based on what I had on hand.

  • @torch2005

    @torch2005

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your explanation. In this particular instance, your short jumps look good and not using cable management isnt a big deal, but when you have a rack with 80-200 drops going to switches on the same rack, i find it imperative to use cable management and trays to ensure cleanliness.

  • @chrisalister3956
    @chrisalister39567 жыл бұрын

    @04:07 I would be that guy! It's just a matter of a professional courtesy.

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yay! Another one!! Well thanks for your thoughtfulness! In my experience, it is a rare find.

  • @Deraco1

    @Deraco1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too. I hate when I go to a rack and there is no screws... Because the screws that the equipment comes with pretty much never work

  • @ig00g1e
    @ig00g1e7 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how much they are paying for that bonded T1? I remember working on T1's in the 90's and it was like $3000.00 a month. Only financial managers could afford it.

  • @norge696

    @norge696

    5 жыл бұрын

    I know right. 7 T1's bonded together.

  • @vhd50
    @vhd506 жыл бұрын

    3 24-port switches with more than 2/3 of the ports unused... Uhm, why not having a single 48-port switch (managed switch if you have multiple VLANs) and the rack would look a lot cleaner.

  • @klatlap

    @klatlap

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same, i am now to networking and we have a similar situation at my work, the only reason i can see for this is serperate business in same complex.

  • @MrToday2000
    @MrToday20007 жыл бұрын

    Why did you use nylon zip ties instead of Velcro

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Matt Radel I'm actually going to address that in a future video but the short of it is that the environments I work in demand it. In a well-planned structured cabling setup, velcro is the perfect choice. But it n areas where network cabling wasn't even a thought, I need the strength of zip ties to hold the bundles in a particular shape to make them do what I want. Velcro just doesn't grip that tightly. Trust me, I like velcro too!

  • @chuckley54494
    @chuckley544946 жыл бұрын

    lol why use 7 t's is that because of the 10 meg up and down? i know this is a little over a year ago but man by use we have 500 down and 25 up for under 100 a month

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's actually a classic problem in my part of the world. Commercial sites get ZERO connectivity from the major broadband providers that are moving the biggest, fattest pipes around. They see a commercial site as a less-dense customer base and, even though they're charging a commercial site 4X the price of residential for essentially the same thing, the providers still would rather invest in connecting to a new spread of condos across the street where the customer base will be much more dense. Malls in my area get it even worse. This is because the telco provider stops at the MPOE and then there's often another mile of cable running from there to the customer suite!

  • @chuckley54494

    @chuckley54494

    6 жыл бұрын

    FiberNinja thanks i did not know that

  • @ZeginMakesMusic
    @ZeginMakesMusic5 ай бұрын

    You can 100% splice fiber and make custom cables..

  • @BradMottram
    @BradMottram7 жыл бұрын

    Surely there is a better internet service available instead of having all those T1 Line's. What's the reasoning behind this or is it just because they can't get anything else?

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    7 жыл бұрын

    This is not uncommon at all. Commercial buildings get poor broadband options frequently where I live in the US. This is because it isn't financially worthwhile for many local "last mile" carriers or ISP's to bother building up the infrastructure just to connect 1 customer when they could invest the same amount of effort to hit an entire housing tract somewhere else. I've seen jobs that tied up to 20 DSL lines together just to give the customer a mere 6MB broadband connection.

  • @BradMottram

    @BradMottram

    7 жыл бұрын

    That's crazy. What does a typical T1 line cost monthly?

  • @Max34557

    @Max34557

    7 жыл бұрын

    What the actual heck?!?! You bond SEVEN lines together and get only 10 mbit?!?!!? what's wrong with ISP's in America? I'm getting 500 mbit's cable here in the Netherlands.

  • @someguy4915

    @someguy4915

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thats on Fiber, with copper you get up to 300Mb/s and with ADSL you would be very lucky with anything past the first Mb/s... Also, those are consumer lines which can and will have downtime, while it is annoying that you cannot use the internet during those downtimes you can survive it, a company might not and will easily require 99,9% uptime and will immediately require at least a double connection so that if one fails the other still keeps the company up and running. As bonding different speeds can be done but adds more overhead you'd then be better off with two 10Mb connections than one 15Mb and one 5Mb, companies don't need that much bandwidth (neither do nearly all consumers anyway...)

  • @Max34557

    @Max34557

    7 жыл бұрын

    Copper here goes up to 800Mb/s, and DSL (VDSL) goes up to 100Mb/s.

  • @niceguy235uk1
    @niceguy235uk16 жыл бұрын

    I still don't get why patch panels are used. It must be better to have the least connections as possible, so go from the switch direct to the outlet wherever it is installed.

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    6 жыл бұрын

    Trust me, I understand where you're coming from. But there's a damn good reason for it. I'm trying to get back into a few places where I've worked in the past specifically to shoot video on this very subject. Stay tuned!

  • @niceguy235uk1

    @niceguy235uk1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Look forward to seeing it! Subbed!

  • @klatlap

    @klatlap

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you think of patch panels like a wall socket for power, once a line is run to a patch panel it is a permanent connection, but this allowes you to make changes to the rack configuration easier.

  • @timlipinski2571
    @timlipinski25717 жыл бұрын

    Get yourself some Velcro Cable Ties for the cable bundles before you have to Zip Tie them together. No Keystone this time... tjl

  • @padraics
    @padraics3 жыл бұрын

    Why can't you make custom fiber cables? You're the fiber ninja but you don't have fiber splicing and terminating tools?

  • @Zeric1
    @Zeric14 жыл бұрын

    It's an okay wiring management job, but not great. This is more a function of the cabinet design which has no room for front vertical management, forcing one to run the cables to the sides and back, then run them vertical, then bring them forward. It can look good from the front, but one is likely to end up with a rats nest either behind and to the side of equipment. This install doesn't have many cables so it's not bad, but if it later ended up with two fully wired 48 port switches....it will be a mess. Also one has a maintain lot of space on both sides of the cabinet to be able to open the panels and get to the back. This would not be needed with front facing vertical cable management where everything can be seen and routed from the front.

  • @iukeay
    @iukeay7 жыл бұрын

    Wtf t1 lines

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    7 жыл бұрын

    Oh YES T1 lines!! In many parts of the US this is still your best bet for reliable broadband. Such vast areas of the country are not covered by carriers yet and because of the low level of the population there, it isn't financially viable to invest in the infrastructure. Fixed wireless is starting to take hold in many of these places now but many commercial installations around the country still demand good 'ole T1 lines to run their systems.

  • @jaredflitt5670

    @jaredflitt5670

    6 жыл бұрын

    They are more common than you think. I️ have two fiber feeds, but still keep our T1 active for phone and a fail over broadband feed! Doesn’t come close to our gigabit fiber, but is a great backup.

  • @stephenhunter70

    @stephenhunter70

    6 жыл бұрын

    Here my ADSL line runs ePPP but the "new" FTTP or FTTN all run T1 and not ePPP. I'm a CCNA and to me, the use of T1 lines sounds very much like they're Frame relay to me.

  • @FastRedPonyCar

    @FastRedPonyCar

    5 жыл бұрын

    We have some rural businesses we support who can only buy T1's. What's nutty is that 200 feet up the street, another business has 50 meg synchronous fiber and the cost to run fiber down the street is astronomical.

  • @hongtanke
    @hongtanke7 жыл бұрын

    T1? man... that's gunna be SPENSIVE. They need to swap to cable or pay a little more for fiber.

  • @aguyandhiscomputer

    @aguyandhiscomputer

    7 жыл бұрын

    BIZKIT And you know those are options where this office is?

  • @hongtanke

    @hongtanke

    7 жыл бұрын

    In California? yeah, those are options. Maybe not fiber everywhere but chances are it's available. Since even rural areas of the US have cable to businesses I think it should be possible. Leased lines are expensive and people only retain them because they think they need a leased direct connect to certain services or offices. VPN's have made them obsolete

  • @ewsclass6679
    @ewsclass66796 жыл бұрын

    i am from the UK and we have nothing like a "T1", infact, what even is a T1?

  • @FiberNinjaStudios

    @FiberNinjaStudios

    6 жыл бұрын

    A T1 is the fundamental digital communications line. It is the equal of a 1.5MB internet connection but is also capable of carrying up to 24 voice lines as well --all on a single pair or double pair of copper. The T1 is the beginning of time domain multiplexing (TDM) which is the backbone of all major communications in the US and around the globe.

  • @ewsclass6679

    @ewsclass6679

    6 жыл бұрын

    FiberNinja Ah ok makes more sense; but why are they so expensive you can dedicated fibre for that money in the uk

  • @aguyandhiscomputer

    @aguyandhiscomputer

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ewsclass6679 Compare the size of the United States to the UK and you'll see why we don't have fiber everywhere.

  • @ewsclass6679

    @ewsclass6679

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@aguyandhiscomputer yeah that's fair, we don't have fibre either in the UK however, most of the technology is fibre to the cabinet, and then coax to the premises

  • @aguyandhiscomputer

    @aguyandhiscomputer

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ewsclass6679 Populated areas have good internet speeds. The worst part about it is the lack of competition. Many municipalities have sold their soul to a single provider. Sucks when people only have 1 or sometimes 2 companies to choose from. They set the price and if you call and ask for a lower price, they know you can't leave. Even our cellular infrastructure isn't the best. We have a mix of CDMA and GSM. We're not like Europe who went all in on GSM and all the providers share it.

  • @ahmedifhaam7266
    @ahmedifhaam7266 Жыл бұрын

    wtf is NIU

  • @016632
    @0166325 жыл бұрын

    Hey fiber ninja i just wanted to apologize because I have been watching all your videos and like a scumbag havnt subscribed.

  • @nash-xn1no
    @nash-xn1no3 жыл бұрын

    i will run my lines out of iraq horizontally

  • @jamess1787
    @jamess17875 жыл бұрын

    Only if people used common-sense.... Life would be much better.

  • @anenglishmaninbrazil3212
    @anenglishmaninbrazil32127 жыл бұрын

    If you are going to do a job do it wright very few people have pride in there work these days and living in a place that if full of bodgers shows exactly that... Even the guys here who are supposed to be the best of the best are shite

  • @planktonfun1
    @planktonfun16 жыл бұрын

    Um.. that's not a clean cable management...

  • @aguyandhiscomputer

    @aguyandhiscomputer

    5 жыл бұрын

    Looks good considering the rack layout.

  • @WilliamWonka
    @WilliamWonka3 жыл бұрын

    “In fiber you don’t get the opportunity to have custom length cables.” Wait... what? Edit: if you don’t leave the rack nuts and screws with the rack, I hate you. You know who you are, quit being a hoarder.

  • @digitalradiohacker

    @digitalradiohacker

    2 жыл бұрын

    In radio, you don't get to choose the coax. Some Jedward quiffed idiot in sales decided what coax to use from an office 800 miles away. When you get sent to site, you have to work with what is there. I think that is what he means by "don't get the opportunity".

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